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preferred to call them – will stoutly resist this doctrine, but I fear their case is hopeless. The
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Channel Islands were at that time part of the territory of Normandy but being islands the claims were not relinquished when they agreed the treaty as such they continued to own a part of 'Normandy' and as such may lay claim to the title. While they don't own Normandy the ruler of
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The current content is not sensible. I understand that the
English/British monarchs use the title because of their possession of the Channel Islands. No problem with that. But they shouln't fill up more than half of the template when the actual Dukes of Normandy proper are mostly missing. All the
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recognised the French conquest of the Duchy, and they have never been resumed. Even had the title of Duke of
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As to why this template exists it exists for the same reason as every other template similar to it exists. Whether or not in the end there is consensus on whether or not the
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The fact that they are not refered to by that title is because they only become Duke once they become monarch and therefore that title is superseeded. However that is the numeral that should be used when in reference to any monarch as Duke of
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I can't see that any of this refutes anything in the quoted passage. Has any
English monarch since 1259 used or claimed the ducal title? (Other than refraining from telling Channel Islanders that they're wrong to toast the "Duke".)
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