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On the template, I’d suggest putting first State
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I’m throwing out ideas. The problem with my suggestion above is that I forgot we aren’t dealing with html, where you can set a “bookmark” to link to a particular part of a file, which here, and correct me if I’m wrong, the only way to do that is with a subheading. So even if we wan’t to send someone
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Capitol collection, but regardless, I know there are more articles to create. We can figure out the sorting, category,
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Thanks for replying. However, I don't agree with displaying links to people with the template. For the sake of consistency, we should only display links (red or blue) to notable works within the collection. Red links encourage article creation, and
Carptrash and I will get to creating a stub soon
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OK, I'm not entirely sure I understand what you have in mind. I don't think we should be displaying entries twice, though, right? So we should pick one or the other? Do you care to take a stab at updating the template, or are you just throwing out ideas?
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The Rosa Parks statue is in the room, and so it seems it would be "part" of the collection even if it's not an official entry (i.e. how is "collection" defined, if it's in the midst of the other 'collectibles' then it is, well, there).
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Capitol" vs. "National Statuary Hall Collection" -- see
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It seems best to me alphabetized and not broken down to states. Readers who want a state breakdown can go the main page. I don't think
Knowledge (XXG) uses postal abbreviations to sort, even if it were to divide up into 50 states.
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Not sure, but since the
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Pinging you as well, since I know you've done some work on sculptures in DC. Any ideas on how to organize this template, and where to draw the line re: National
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I'm not exactly sure how to make this happen in terms of markup, but I see there being a collection of sculptures, with a subgroup of state statues, then further divided into current vs. former state statues.
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Yes, in the 'Related' section, both for full
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