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Marshall were sort of the "core support" for the band. Maybe they should be on the line with Daubs and Holdsworth as former members of the band? Should they have their own line? (I, personally, would prefer them not to have their own line as it would make the template that much bigger....) Let me think about this for a little bit, and I'm going to see if I can get some other opinions in the mix.... —
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perform solo many times, and has released at least one, maybe two, albums under his own name. I see the Dude as more of a "friend" of the band who certainly had some influence (see "Skippy the Wonder Mouse") but no more than other guest performers. The Giant
Country Horns have never released anything
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I've made some edits to the Phish template. I've tried to reduced redundancies overall. Made the template more in line with other band templates. Please let me know if there are overt issues with this. I'm somewhat using Xnux the
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I don't think there is anything wrong with the current template - it is easy to use and easy to use to find things. I especially like about the current template that the live phish series is in its own collapsible section, whereas here it is front and center and makes it cluttered. If it ain't
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make sense? I think this could probably be argued either way. And at first I thought that GCH should be added alongside the Dude of Life, but now (after typing it "out loud") I actually believe that the Dude should be lowered in stature, and moved down next the the Horns. He was
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IMO, GCH is more of a related act. I would say that they weren't AS integral as the Dude. My reasoning, which might be faulty, is thus: Dude brought creative inspiration, as opposed to GCH which, to some extent, reinterpreted existing material. Does that make sense? —
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Bonnaroo, but it's sort of the rightful heir of the Phish festival. Eh, leave 'em all off. HORDE is really a Blues Traveler thing and Farm Aid was everybody who was anybody. They're wikilinked in the article; that's good enough. —
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I don't think the collapsable template structure is appropriate for this template. Trying to find links is unnecessarily tricky, and all of the information can be condensed reasonably. Here is my proposal for a new template design:
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Also, the Live Phish and LivePhish.com downloads are conflated in this template. Theoretically, they're two separate things. Having a separate template for them would basically accomplish what the current template already
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should be moved to the first section, right after The Dude of Life. OR, the Dude should be moved to the
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No, it's about two inches longer. I'm not saying you added anything to it; its "volume" remained the same, but making it thinner made it longer. Taller. However you want to look at it. —
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I don't think it can. All of the template tags, {{phish}} included, center themselves automatically. I could justify the text within the box, but I don't think that would help. —
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The guys to whom I would normally look for comment don't seem to be currently editing. I left a message on the talk of the main article; lets see if any other thoughts show up. —
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I'm on IE5 (I think -- it's something ancient) here at work, and it doesn't collapse at all, so it's hard for me to really think about it. I'm going to leave a message on the main
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I think this should collapse regardless of the existance of another navbox. Both are just too large to have open on a page -- either navbox is larger than some of the stubs!
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Again, length wasn' changed, it is the same, only width changed. It all depends on how you are viewing
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of which I'm aware, and that, in my mind, puts them in more of the role of backing band, and not guest performers, almost like backup singers. Does
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page -- I don't know if anyone watches the template but me -- and, since I don't really have an opinion, I'd like to see what others think. —
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I've never seen that, but your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. —
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1688:Discography
1626:Big Cypress
1622:Camp Oswego
1541:The Lizards
1529:Mike's Song
1469:Army of One
1294:It Festival
1078:Island Tour
1059:Bonus Shows
972:Main series
914:Live albums
783:Mike Gordon
777:Jon Fishman
2116:Ryneweir01
1778:Oysterhead
1734:Phish Food
1721:Gamehendge
1618:Lemonwheel
1517:Harry Hood
921:A Live One
899:Round Room
65:Woodstocks
23:H.O.R.D.E.
2103:Hey all!
1814:Vida Blue
1798:SerialPod
1604:Festivals
905:Undermind
887:Farmhouse
595:Brainscar
544:Brainscar
284:BabuBhatt
113:New width
17:Festivals
2124:contribs
2112:unsigned
1944:Addionne
1766:Amfibian
1716:The Barn
1634:Coventry
1423:Tracking
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977:Volume 1
957:Vegas 96
851:Lawn Boy
213:contribs
205:Milchama
201:unsigned
61:Bonnaroo
41:Bonnaroo
27:Farm Aid
2107:that.
2053:Echidna
2013:doesn't
1974:Echidna
1896:Echidna
1846:Echidna
29:1998.--
1589:Ya Mar
1559:Possum
1511:Harpua
470:Navbar
98:Moeron
94:Agreed
69:Moeron
31:Moeron
2070:Maker
2065:Music
1998:Maker
1993:Music
1987:does.
1928:Maker
1923:Music
1918:Phish
1864:Maker
1859:Music
1700:Music
1696:Tours
1692:Songs
1642:Books
1571:Twist
1505:Ghost
1462:Songs
1407:Stash
869:Hoist
845:Junta
760:Phish
707:Maker
702:Music
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