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pretty much just doing this because it looks cool :). If anyone does prefer an image of the brain, feel free to leave a comment here. Psychiatry is the medical specialty dealing with the prevention, assessment, diagnosis, treatment, and rehabilitation of the mind and mental illness. A brain would do just fine too.
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It is so distractign to me because its brightly colored, the rotation makes these bright colors cycle, and the brain seems to be moving jumping back and forth towards the viewer which really draws the eye (its as bad as that flash ad with the bull). Thanks PEACE for the alternative options, but is a
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The day psychiatry will be about brain, this could be an acceptable image (however, if this happens, it should be clear the difference from neurology, for instance). Till this day and psychiatry is not about brain, but its main aim is to lock people, and to pretend this is done on their interest, an
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Strongly opposing to any of the proposed images. They all refers to brain, not to psyche. These image could be used to tag topics about diagnostic image or to tag neuroscience topics, but not psychiatric topic. The burled of saying what psychiatry is and what should so be an image to describe it, is
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So the reason for removing the current image is that it mislead the reader. This is fundamental point that is much more important than discussing a future image. I am not removing the current image because I want a new one, I am removing it because it is strongly wrong. If there is a grammatical
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The current image is misleading, someone can believe that psychiatry is grounded on image of the human body or someone can misleads psychiatry with diagnose by image. All the alternatives proposed in the above section are misleading too (since psychiatry do not deal with brain, (while neurology,
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For the record, I think the consensus here is a picture of the brain would be just fine for this template. TalkAbout has already stated that
Anyfile's arguments were not sufficient to qualify that image being removed. I have, however, added Diletante's image as the one for the template. I'm
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TalkAbout, apart from neuropsychiatry, that list seems to me to involve variants on names for those subspecialities already on the psychiatry page, or are separate professions (e.g. psychology) or are more types of disorder or types of clients or types of activity. What I plan to do is add
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I find that they too have added color to the brain and I imagine they would make the page rotate for a full view if they could. Can the image file be larger so when one clicks it can be more easily seen? I also, think it will be a great visual tool and makes the page a bit lively.
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article the word came from the greek "spirit physician" so I think this image is appropriate but I am not sure. This was my first svg i've ever made and the first image I've ulpoaded so please fix it if you notice that I did something wrong. Is this appropriate? --
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navboxes should not have redlinks. its a guide to existing articles. if we need these articles written, then write them, then consider adding them to the box. I will remove them and add the removed names to requested articles, at the psychiatry project and the main
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There has not been a discussion yet about the template, I just created it myself recently in order to organize some of the psychiatry related articles, as has been done quite extensively for psychology related articles. But please, let us start a discussion.
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Please see the list above for the areas covered under psychiatry and then vote above or provide an image to add to the vote. Also, "It is strongly wrong" and "its main aim is to lock people" doesn't cite 'WHY' or 'WHO is trying to LOCK (I imagine you left out
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So please show, on the contrary, that there is consensus (at this time) of keeping the current image and prof that the current image is not misleading. In lack of the latter, it is better to avoid reader to be misled and hence the image to be removed. --
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that a brain image is more representative of biopsychiatry than, say, social psychiatry...but one little icon can't convey everything (guess an ideal one might show activation in response to a social challenge...but that is getting very picky and tricky!
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neuropsychiatry to the psychiatry page, and then add that and all the rest currently listed on the psychiatry page to this template - but, as you suggest, leave out for now those which don't currently have a wiki page to link to.
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image of a brain, is completely misleading. For this reason the image should be removed. Please do not insert it again. Feel free to replace with an image that really give out the idea of what psychiatry really is. --
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Anyfile and a user at 82.54.154.105 are the only people here against using an image of a brain. Smee, Eversince, myself, Talkabout, and
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I prefer #1 but can live with #9 as the colors are very nice. Color is a must as the gray ones are too dull.PEACE
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I have changed the image. Discuss what you think here.
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