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Schengen membership i think it would make more sense to group Schengen countries together than EU countries together when it comes to a visa policy table - if countries are to be be grouped after something else than location/geography. The table is fine with me the way it is, I asked the initial question because, as you say "In my opinion, the division into economic unions superfluous in VR table".
542:. As long as EU countries are grouped together in this template, it feels like EFTA countries should be too. I understand that EFTA is not a union like the EU, but as this template is about visa requirements that shouldn’t make a difference. Other countries impose different visa requirements on citizens from different EU countries, and there is no uniform visa policy in the EU. Some are part of the Schengen area, UK and Ireland have their own travel area, and some of the newer members maintain their own visa policies.
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Schengen area is simply wrong, as all EFTA states are *members* of Schengen. Other countries, like Andorra is not a member of Schengen but has chosen to have an open border.
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You are right. It's even worse now. The regions are divided in subregions. It makes navigation hard by adding extra step. How should people know to look in "Central Africa" for Angola and it's more central located neighbour Zambia in "Eastern
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