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52:. I myself know quite little about webcomics, but I do know a bit about Knowledge (XXG)'s deletion process, having closed several deletion debates. In general, one or two votes from anonymous users or from accounts with few edits is within what is normal. However, when an AFD discussion gets large numbers of such votes, especially when they are all voting the same (usually "keep"), there is an immediate suspicion of 178:
Very clear, if somewhat redundant. I'm a maths student at the moment, and so have been unable to avoid doing any statistics at all, despite my best intentions. I've can't remember all of it, but I'm well briefed with sampling problems. A refresher's always useful, though, and if we ever have need to
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The reason I named it archive 01 is that no archive existed with that name, and it did not seem a pressing concern at that point to try and sort out the archives. I apologise for any confusion or misunderstanding this may have caused between us, and have sorted out the archives as penance. Again,
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for insiration. I've tried to make the guidelines broader so that they can be applied to any form of web content, rather than focusing on specifics. The goal shouldn't be to set bars to take account of particular examples, but rather to outline existing policy and consensus at various places. As
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Alexa is somewhat useful for sites with "low" numbers. The top 500 are almost certainly accurate, the top 10K probably a safe bet, but anything over that is pot luck. The statement that you made that "very high Alexa does not necessarily indicate non-notability" is in fact essentially correct, in
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This appearance after a 10-year abscence was a relief to the many fans of the rod, some of whom believed Homer, jealous of the Rod's success, had done away with it. Its decade-long hiatus is still regarded with suspiscion, many still hope for an explanation of the rod's activities, as well as it's
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I've taken your name in vain elsewhere, so I thought that it fitting to make the same statment here. Of the very new accounts that participated in this, you were a standout contributor. You made reasoned arguments, you provided links, and in general behaved to a high standard. I just wanted to
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I have removed this from the Uncontroversial proposals section. That section says "If there is any doubt as to whether a page move could be opposed by anyone, do not list it in this section.". Since there are two competing articles another editor may object. Please relist in Other proposals. You
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I didn't realise you'd provided it, but what I was trying to do was add some information there to the effect that Alexa isn't reliable, and I thought that was a fairly NPOV link to do so. My interpretation of that link is that it's saying Alexa is usreliable, and shouldn't be used as evidence of
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Bwa-ha-ha! You fell for my master plan. I was originally going to go for a redirect, before discovering they don't actually work here. I'll probably have something up there in a couple of weeks. (I'm aware I could make my name link to my talk, but I didn't feel like it).
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Can I ever! Category:Knowledge (XXG) maintenance is the ichi-ban list of everything, but I find it hard to get my teeth into. Category:Knowledge (XXG) cleanup is pretty good, in particular because the technical challenge is not great, as opposed to say
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which can get pretty confusing pretty quickly. Cat:Cleanup is also good because it exposes you to a wide variety of articles. This is also why I like Category:Random Pages Tests. Anyway, that's probably more to do that one person should do at once. -
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Anyway, a little bit of experience and some time editing articles, especially in the main article namespace (which is, and should remain, the backbone of Knowledge (XXG)), will usually satisfy anyone who is worried if an editor is sincere or not.
70:, the situation got so out of hand that when I closed the discussion, I overlooked some votes from more established users and deleted the article, although I reversed that decision (to the chagrin of some) when I discovered my error. 145:
Imagine that we only pick 10 out at random and extrapolate. We might get, for example, 6 red, 2 blue, 2 blue, and 1 grey. If we aren't careful, this might make us think there were sixty red balls
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Nah, it's fine. I knew you were acting with the best intentions, I just saw the potential for confusion and wanted to stop it before it got any further. Apologies for any offence I caused you.
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I will start off by saying that arbitration is not something I get involved in much. This is in fact the first case ever where I have made a statement and presented evidence. I
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non-notability. I just don't think Alexa's a particularly good tool, so I thought it would be useful to have something on the project page to that effect. Wouldn't you agree?
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article can you vote at the bottom to see whether we should keep Rooney's view on his decision in the article as I'm trying reach a consensus as soon as possible. Thanks.
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some day. Incidentally, can you suggest where to look for articles which have spelling mistakes, or vandalisms to be reverted, useful jobs to do on the main wikipedia?
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We agree that Alexa's pretty weak! I'm not sure how much you know about statistics and sampling, so forgive me if the explanation I'm about to give is insulting.
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So, keep up the good work, and in case no-one has told you, it's not usually like this around here. Not bunnies and flowers, mind you, but not like this.
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link you've added to WP:WEB is one that I provided? And that what it actually shows is that mid-range alexas (like the 100K that is being pushed) are
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Cheers. I've not totally got to grip with special characters yet. I should probably look into it, since 40% of my user name is special characters.
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Thank you, I shall have a look at some of them when I have some free time. As opposed to "taking a break from coursework to edit wikipedia time"
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or that something is amiss, and in such cases, those votes are routinely disregarded when determining whether or not there is a consensus.
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I was excited the see your name was blue, and rushed over to see what masterpiece of self expresion you'd whipped up. You tricked me!
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Imagine we have 100 golf balls in a sack - 50 red, 25 blue, 20 yellow, and one each of black, grey, slate, smoke, and ash. We know
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explain sampling problems, we now have something to point people at. You know how much links are appreciated around here. :-).
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someone who has expressed an opinion on the guidelines in the past, I hope you will read the new version and comment on the
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There have been other cases before as well where a posting on a webforum has drawn a number of people to "stack" a vote,
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should also place the appropriate template on the talk pages of both articles. BlueValour 00:04, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
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Sorry, that was a joke. To be fair, there's no proof that it hasn't happened. I was about to delete it anyway, though.
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fall from fame. It is rumoured the rod will soon publish an autobiography, although derisors claim it is ghost-written.
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grey balls. So for the dense population we'd be out by only 20%, but for the sparse population we're 900% out.
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indicative of wide readership? In effect, it's the opposite of what I'm fairly sure your intentions are.
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please accept my humble apologies. I hope this can now end the matter of the archiving in question.
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Thank you very much for the kind words, hopefully we'll hammer out some sort of consensus on
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I hope that this was both clear and appropiate. Please keep the lines of communication open!
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I can't find any substantiation for this information; do you have a source? —
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Regarding the evidence I presented, it is in part based on a paragraph in the
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It was the special characters that made it not work... I've taken the
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alexa over 50K means almost nothing but doesn't prove the negative.
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thank you for that. Following from that, your contributions to
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have been very good, and I'm impressed with your congeniality.
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32:Hi, and let me welcome you to Knowledge (XXG)! 456:I don't suppose you could care to look at the 8: 39:that comments regarding evidence go on the 142:how many of each colour are in the bag. 399:Knowledge (XXG):Notability (websites) 393:Knowledge (XXG):Notability (websites) 7: 25: 251:Knowledge (XXG):Double redirects 182:On a related note, did you see 186:mentioned on the talk page of 63:being one of the worst cases. 1: 280:13:31, 9 December 2005 (UTC) 265:05:06, 9 December 2005 (UTC) 244:01:14, 9 December 2005 (UTC) 230:00:04, 9 December 2005 (UTC) 195:01:04, 9 December 2005 (UTC) 174:00:04, 9 December 2005 (UTC) 127:14:10, 7 December 2005 (UTC) 116:03:09, 7 December 2005 (UTC) 87:10:31, 2 December 2005 (UTC) 446:14:07, 6 January 2006 (UTC) 436:13:29, 6 January 2006 (UTC) 418:12:08, 6 January 2006 (UTC) 388:12:36, 6 January 2006 (UTC) 379:05:06, 6 January 2006 (UTC) 346:03:28, 3 January 2006 (UTC) 337:03:01, 3 January 2006 (UTC) 318:02:56, 3 January 2006 (UTC) 307:02:50, 3 January 2006 (UTC) 489: 77:Hope you decide to stay! 465:10:33, 5 July 2006 (UTC) 138:colours we have, but we 401:, leaning heavily on 41:talkpage for evidence 357:Inanimate Carbon Rod 96:You do realize that 397:Hi, I've rewritten 184:The Webcomic List 84: 49:Guide to Deletion 16:(Redirected from 480: 458:Horacio Elizondo 452:Horacio Elizondo 375: 330: 300: 258: 223: 167: 109: 82: 21: 488: 487: 483: 482: 481: 479: 478: 477: 472: 454: 425: 395: 373: 360: 328: 298: 292: 256: 221: 209: 165: 107: 94: 30: 23: 22: 15: 12: 11: 5: 486: 484: 471: 468: 453: 450: 449: 448: 424: 421: 394: 391: 368: 367: 359: 354: 353: 352: 351: 350: 349: 348: 295: 291: 288: 287: 286: 285: 284: 283: 282: 268: 267: 246: 219: 217: 208: 203: 202: 201: 200: 199: 198: 197: 180: 163: 160: 159: 158: 150: 143: 105: 93: 90: 29: 26: 24: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 485: 476: 469: 467: 466: 463: 459: 451: 447: 444: 440: 439: 438: 437: 434: 431: 422: 420: 419: 416: 413: 409: 404: 400: 392: 390: 389: 386: 381: 380: 377: 376: 366: 362: 361: 358: 355: 347: 344: 340: 339: 338: 335: 333: 331: 325: 321: 320: 319: 316: 311: 310: 309: 308: 305: 303: 301: 289: 281: 278: 274: 273: 272: 271: 270: 269: 266: 263: 261: 259: 252: 247: 245: 242: 238: 234: 233: 232: 231: 228: 226: 224: 215: 207: 204: 196: 193: 189: 185: 181: 177: 176: 175: 172: 170: 168: 161: 156: 151: 148: 144: 141: 137: 133: 132: 130: 129: 128: 125: 120: 119: 118: 117: 114: 112: 110: 103: 99: 91: 89: 88: 85: 80: 75: 71: 69: 66:In one case, 64: 62: 57: 55: 51: 50: 44: 42: 38: 33: 27: 19: 473: 470:Kneeboarding 455: 426: 396: 382: 371: 369: 363: 293: 210: 154: 146: 139: 135: 101: 95: 76: 72: 65: 58: 54:sockpuppetry 47: 45: 36: 34: 31: 462:Englishrose 430:Steve block 412:Steve block 140:don't know 18:User:J•A•K 423:Archiving 408:talk page 329:brenneman 299:brenneman 257:brenneman 222:brenneman 166:brenneman 108:brenneman 79:Sjakkalle 290:Red link 83:(Check!) 324:liberty 28:Welcome 237:WP:WEB 214:WP:WEB 188:WP:WEB 443:J•A•K 385:J•A•K 343:J•A•K 315:J•A•K 296:^_^ 277:J•A•K 241:J•A•K 192:J•A•K 153:that 124:J•A•K 92:Alexa 37:think 433:talk 415:talk 374:THOR 326:. - 136:what 98:this 155:any 147:ten 102:not 410:. 20:)

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User:J•A•K
talkpage for evidence
Guide to Deletion
sockpuppetry
Knowledge (XXG):Votes for deletion/Flying Spaghetti Monster
Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion/Able and Baker
Sjakkalle
(Check!)
10:31, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
this
brenneman


03:09, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
J•A•K
14:10, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
brenneman


00:04, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
The Webcomic List
WP:WEB
J•A•K
01:04, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion/Checkerboard Nightmare
WP:WEB
brenneman


00:04, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

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