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301: 486: 101: 54: 361:. As well as being a geographical match, the middle name is the same as the biological father's first name. What does not fit is that the mother's maiden name is also registered as being Cheetham. If this discrepancy can be explained then maybe we have a verifiable source that Cheetham is Jay Kay's birth name. Alternatively, this could be a coincidence. 370: 183:. I expect that, in the absence of information to the contrary, the commonly-known name of the artist has been used at the inception of the article and it has stayed there. However, some cases are unclear or are complicated by the existance of sources which contradict each other. I present some examples here. 1034: 747: 244:
To be called one thing and christened another is actually very confusing and annoying. It's one of the most irritating things that my parents did to me. ...Florian is a German man's name. That's just mean. To give your child a whole lot of odd names. They were all so embarrassing. ...I thought it was
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maintain databases which record who receives royalties for songs by the composers whom they represent. As such, they usually record the legal names of the composers. These organisations are the sources that I most often use to discover who wrote which song, and what their real name is. Often it is a
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I used to believe that a person's legal name would remain their birth name until they went through a formal legal process to change it. If this were true then failure to find an announcement could be construed as proof that a legal change of name has not taken place. Recently I have been informed by
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is possibly the most useful of the PRO databases, firstly because it seems to have the broadest coverage of the three. The second reason applies to composers who have more than one alias in the database, as the ASCAP database clearly distinguishes which alias it considers to be the principal entry.
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over her name. This reached maximum intensity between October 2007 and March 2008, during which time 28 edits merely added "Dido" to or deleted it from the name in the first sentence (and sometimes the birth-name field in the infobox). Occasionally citations were added to support one point of view,
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The acquisition of a new name by use and reputation is in truth the only way by which a name is changed, for a man's name is the name by which he is known, an Act of Parliament or Royal licence being permissive only, and a deed poll being merely evidence of intention to be known by another name.
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I used to simply change incorrect names as I found them, without logging in and without citing a source. This was fine until one day I noticed that all of the changes that I had made had been reverted, with the comment "dubious/uncited edit". It turned out that I had edited the
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which have allowed me to correct Knowledge (XXG) articles. Usually it is straightforward but I have encountered some problematic issues that I have documented on this page. Some of them are still unresolved, so please let me know if you have any comments or suggestions.
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in 2001, Dido discussed her name in more depth. On her birth certificate, her name is registered as Florian Cloud De Bounevialle Armstrong, but she has always been known as Dido. As a child, she had to deal with the ambiguity and the unusual nature of her names:
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offers many reliable sources of information, some of which are available online and can be linked to. For those that can not be linked to directly, an image can be uploaded to Knowledge (XXG) as long as the following template is added:
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Thus, it is difficult to argue that a stage name is not a legal name if the artist wishes it to be. Knowing what an artist wishes and which name they use outside of their professional life is hard to know and harder to verify.
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page at a time when an experienced editor was giving it some serious attention. He left a message on my talk page (i.e. that of my IP address) but received no reply — I never checked it. Being unable to verify my edit using a
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made it easy by making it clear that "Dido" was her real name, despite not being on her birth certificate. Having been called "Dido" by family and friends since childhood she has no need to employ any formal legal process.
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in London. The results can be accessed only if you have a subscription. A 14-day free trial is available, which I took advantage of. A sample page is shown in the figure, which showed that Dido's birth name was not Dido.
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The final example demonstrates one of the drawbacks of the ASCAP database — it limits names to a length of 30 characters. The effect is usually noticeable by the way it crops the names, as in the case of
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and were ignored or even deleted. The edit war ended abruptly at the end of March when two references were cited, a posting by Dido to her fans in which she states that "Dido" is her
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district, which is a geographical match. The mother's maiden name is Russell but I have been unable to discover the maiden name of Shaznay's mother in order to verify the match.
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which contains scanned images of original records. It is a searchable, digitized version of the indices of civil registrations in England and Wales, reported quarterly to the
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I use Knowledge (XXG) mainly to look up details about musical artists or bands, and their songs. I am particularly interested in song-writing credits and the
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in the name held by the performing rights organizations does not provide conclusive information about whether this is in her current legal name. Compare
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Simply referring to "Dido" as a stage name or a nickname is inappropriate — this has in fact happened on earlier versions of the Knowledge (XXG) page.
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of the people who have them. I started off by referring to the details printed on the inlays of CDs. I gave up on this when I read on the inlay for
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name, and an interview with Dido on television in which she recites her name as "Dido Florian Cloud de Bounevialle O'Malley Armstrong".
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The opening sentence of the Dido article has changed little in format over the years, being edited mainly as part of a protracted
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Notice is hereby given that...Elton Hercules John...abandoned the surname of Dwight and the Christian names of Reginald Kenneth.
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This is not an encyclopedia article or the talk page for an encyclopedia article. If you find this page on any site other than
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It sometimes happens that a performing artist wishes to adopt his stage name as his legal name. A popular way to do this is by
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Usually, this can be considered the real name of the person in question. This is not always the case, however.
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There are various was to obtain information about births registerd in the UK, and you can even
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are not covered by the waiver referred to above and should be treated as copyrighted material.
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Notice is hereby given that...Norman Quentin Cook...abandoned the forenames of Quentin Leo...
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Notice is hereby given that...Hank Brian Marvin...abandoned the names of Brian Robson Rankin.
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Notice is hereby given that...Cliff Richard...abandoned the name of Harry Rodger Webb...
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is successful but when you click on the link you are directed to a list of songs by
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is successful but when you click on the link you are directed to a list of songs by
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is successful but when you click on the link you are directed to a list of songs by
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I have come across quite a few names and birth names that do not match records from
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Extract from the London Gazette, announcing enrolment of a deed poll by Elton John.
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maiden name is Pringle, his biological father's surname is Silveira (or perhaps
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The issue of Dido's real name has caused controversy. Since it was created, the
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article has opened with a variety of names, the most popular choices being:
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that this is not the case. To quote from a standard work on the subject:
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who changed his name from Reginald Kenneth Dwight to Elton Hercules John
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An example is shown to the right. However, it is important to note that
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simple case of discovering that Steve is actually Stephen, or that
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who changed his name from Brian Robson Rankin to Hank Brian Marvin
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who changed his name from Quentin Leo Cook to Norman Quentin Cook
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discussed above. This process works best if you already have the
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J.F. Josling (1985) . "How a Change of Name May Be Effected".
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index for the birth in question, and this is the tricky part.
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cruel to call me Dido and then expect me to just deal with it.
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Scanned image of the original document. Restricted access.
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above. An exception to this can be seen if you search for
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It's Dido Florian Cloud de Bounevialle O'Malley Armstrong
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I tried to find Shaznay's birth registration using the
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Births Registered in January, February, and March 1970
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