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language, but I mean the female/woman/bisexual women/FTMs who date women side of the LGBT equation, as distinct from the male/man/bisexual man/MTFs who date men side of the equation. Others must have felt this need as well because there are *some* categories that are diffused into gay and lesbian (along with bisexual and transgender) but really, not that many (see below for counts, less than 20 in each category). These L and G specific categories also branch up the tree in different and sometimes strange ways (check out
892:: (full disclosure, i am the one that segregated out a separate Bisexual category from the former Bisexual community cat) imho the organized Bi community (BiNet, etc etc) should have their own cat, but the films, literature, TV series, etc definitely don't belong under "Bisexual community". Not sure if I overlooked that during the split or if someone came along afterward and moved the (TV,literature,etc) cats back to the Bisexual community cat though. will check it out.. 61:. There are also less than 20 specific gay categories. These are more uniform, in that all but one have an LGBT parent category and that is the only parent category. The exception is gay pornography. (I have a chart on this in Microsoft Word that I'm shy about putting into a Knowledge table due to lack of technical knowledge, but I may publish it as a google document). 49:
but there ARE things that encompass just the one, as evidenced by the fact that the "B" and "T" categories are fairly well populated (but not overpopulated). There are lesbian related categories buried in the structure, and I am proposing to organize them together and make "L" fork off of LGBT. The same could be done for "G" I believe.
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I may get started on this and things will become more clear of obvious once I do. The idea would be to take all the L and G specific categories above and try to make some sense of them. As I look more closely, it looks like lesbian and bisexual have all the same sub categories, with the exception
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Under the main category "LGBT" there are sub categories for Bisexuality and Transgender the B and the T of LGBT. But there is no sub category for the "L" or the "G". I agree with SatyrN's not to make L, G, B and T the primary category structure. There are lots of things that encompass all four,
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I focus my Knowledge contributions in two areas: categorizing uncategorized articles and working on LGBT articles, emphasis on the "L". At this intersection, I find that I'm often looking for some organization of lesbian related articles separate from LGBT. I don't mean to exclude by my use of
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I thought that drag kings/queens were performers first, who were not necessarily gay/lesbian or transsexual (though I guess they might count as transvestite? (unless they wouldnt' be transvestitite since they were doing it for performance?). will defer to those more knowledgable in lesbian and
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Note: I generated this list partly at random and partly by searching on Google for items on the Knowledge site including the word lesbian. Most articles were already categorized with one of the lesbian-categories shown above, but these were not. Additions and comments are welcome!
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for some weird bedfellow). I do have a working knowledge of the category guidelines and philosophies, so I know that categories are not supposed to be a straight (no pun intended) tree. Nonetheless, the current state of things doesn't seem right.
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Current state of affairs: There are less than 20 specific lesbian categories. All of them have parent LGBT categories, as you would expect. 7 of them have parent categories that related to women somehow (many are
624:- I'm not sure if comics count as fiction in which case there is a lesbian-specific caategory - they don't seem to be categorized that way, but rather as "art," for which there is no lesbian specific category 837:. I just linked up Gay organizations with organizations of men (wait for the howls, folks!). Men by occupations bizarrely basically only includes dancers, porn stars and Popes. (you poor guys) 261: 819: 29: 630:- though the article acknowledges that the terms are used by both gay men and lesbians, the article focuses almost entirely on the lesbian approach to the terms and concepts. 256: 1074: 650: 822:. The current category name is probably more appropriate as lesbian does not always equal feminism, and nymphomania is probably not feminism (maybe, I don't know). 215:
I'm not crazy about this one because as is you've got dominatrixes, nymphomaniacs on the same par as lesbians, resulting in a kind of over sexualizing of the topic.
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that's fair nuff but where I live drag kings are absolutely part of lesbian culture. Probably best to leave it alone for POV issues and I ain't a source.
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Finding existing articles that will be appropriate for an L or G tag may prove difficult. I've started a list on this page of the more obvious ones.
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which seemingly never got populated. Also, originally, the women and sexuality category was called feminism and sexuality, but that
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of television series. The problem remains that the "lesbian" and "gay" specific categories don't link up to the LGBT main category.
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from the list below, one thing that exists in the "B" category and not the L or G is television shows. Films are segmented.
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and then all the people related Lesbian cats would go under it: writers, musicians, possibly organizing "by occupation."
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none really - all of the above examples except a few (pornography, Neo Nazis) link up only to the LGBT category.
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Haven't done an exhaustive search, just dropping things here as I come across them. Feel free to join in!
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article in the See Also section speaks to the need for a more lesbian/woman/etc. oriented category tree.
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Yes, bisexual community is weird and vague as a topish level category and should be demoted, methinks.
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Need someplace to put LGBT related non fiction that isn't a book, for example, Adrienne Rich's essay.
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did a ton of work in August fixing up the Women category. Among his/her efforts was to add
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categorized as both LGBT related television program and Bisexual related television program
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which I think helps to prove my point that it's needed. (lesbian, no such luck.) and 2)
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These are the types of articles that should be bunched together as lesbian-specific.
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and progeny have no LGBT related categories, though they are tagged with LGBT project.
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Go through LGBT/gay oriented categories for lists and see if any are appropriate for
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I just can't find any men and sexuality, sexual orientation or the like categories.
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A kind of sandbox for collecting discussions about the LGBT category structure.
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Examples of articles that could benefit from a lesbian/female specific category
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Examples of articles that could benefit from a gay male/male specific category
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Examples of Bisexual or trans related articles that do what I am proposing
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or something similar - couldn't find the right word. Could also be just "
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and those categories starting with "lesbian" or "gay" were included.
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Lesbian artists, musicians, politicians, sportspeople, writers
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where lesbian is just about the only non-country subcategory.
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Overcategorization, Non notable intersections by sexuality
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3. Add categories (To Do If Paralell Structure is created)
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Then have the structure attempt to mimic the structure of
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LGBT erotic literature (does not exist currently afaik)
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with main categories like society, culture, art, etc.
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Category:Often-populated Knowledge category redirects
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What are the missing lesbian categories? Directors
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Index

User:Scarykitty
User:Scarykitty/LGBT Categories/Previous Discussions
Category:Women and sexuality
Category:Women and sexuality
Category:Women's magazines
lesbian
Lesbian#See_also
Category:Lesbian
Category:Lesbianism
Category:Lesbians
Category:LGBT people
Category:Gayness
Category:Gay
Category:LGBT people
Category:Often-populated Knowledge category redirects
Category:Gay men
Category:LGBT
Category:Bisexuality
Category:Transgender
Category:Lesbian
Category:LGBT
Category:Women and sexuality
Category:Lesbians
Category:LGBT people
Category:Gay
Category:Gay men
Category:Men
Category:Women and sexuality
Second Serve
Category:Transgender-related television shows

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