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I've been seeking to cleanup the huge mess that is extant in some thousands of filmographies for more than four months. Livie is the user most intent on this not happening. It's all been discussed at great length and it is past time that she cease her efforts at preventing such
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The intention is to maintain an informal approach in a sincere effort to reach some understanding. While all parties understand that other editors may be interested in this discussion and may wish to contribute, all parties request that no other editors comment on this page.
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is part of a pattern of Livie's; she will revert huge amounts of work by others on the slightest pretext. The correct action in such cases is to talk and to make edits that are specific to the issue. The edit given removed more than 30 new sources. The biting is
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