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Kolkata reeking of the very Marxist ideology they have scraped off the trash-heap of history. These filthy tent villages are poignant microcosms, portals into the future, if you will, of what the country would look like as a whole if the left got its way. If you want to be aggressively bias in this article, I will play your game.
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facebook because facebook is not a wiki. Imagine if the movement truly was leaderless and used a wiki format? I think that would be awesome, but it's just not what happened. The people on facebook with the power to delete posts are so hypocritical and deleted some of my positive feedback for the movement, which would get you banned here on
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which he devotes a fair amount of time to. One of our chats was mostly about innocuous things, and it would seem weird/creepy to share any chat logs. He did get me to change my vote on the 99% declaration AFD however, since we chatted about that a lot, as well as various other OWS issues.
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if he doesn't get consensus the first go-round. I've edit-sparred with him before and lost (but am not bound to the outcome of WP:Mediation, so he has no legitimacy if he "wins" at that battleground). You have to be eloquent, cogent, and fast turnaround in replying to all edits.
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because basically 100% of people have facebook, and if we tried to base our platform on something other than facebook, half would be too lazy to switch or would forget their passwords or whatever. Basically you can blame it all on laziness!
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