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the case, and I do think I was wrong to possibly offend you. And this was after I asked here for your participation, too. I do appreciate that you considered my request here, and that you followed the link to the wt:NRHP discussion and offered your information and opinions there. About your pointing to the Wiki loves Monuments map, I thought that was interesting, but as an excellent covering-all-listings example, rather than showing artificially selective coverage like the list-of-only-small-counties approach does, but maybe I misunderstood. Anyhow, I do appreciate your thoughtful perspective and info offered.

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didn't know about the 10 THC regions he could have just visited them and saved a lot of time, or maybe not, oh well. :) I do think that the current situation is bad, and I hope that a better solution for Texas NRHP and RTHL coverage, using some scheme of regions, is possible sometime in the future, but I have to acknowledge that of course it will be better if diverse views are heard and that some kind of compromise can emerge. For now, anyhow, I expect to go forward on trying to adopt regions in a different, easier, state, West Virginia, next, instead, stay tuned!

2751:. These transclude in live copies of the tables from the 254 separate county lists, and nothing changes at all for editors. Only the same separate county lists are ever to be edited. The reader, though, now gets an additional option of viewing a given county's table on a region page, where they can see how it relates to tables/locations of adjacent counties. I believe this avoids/resolves all objections to my 2018 proposal (which was to actually merge the individual county articles onto region pages). --Doncram ( 1432: 2323: 2395: 2970: 822: 22: 1565:

complication for map preparation is that there are 6 counties which are in fact split across regions (the two regions are identified for each, in the list-table). A draft map could simplify by putting those counties into the region that is first alphabetically for each one. Or likely the apparent dividing line within each of those could be discerned from careful comparison of THC's map vs. any map showing all the county outlines.

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at those counties I already audited to fix anything I missed the first time. The rationale I used in creating the page splits has been to keep individual site entries per page under 500 with some room for future expansion while keeping the entries per page roughly similar. These divisions are based upon the number of RTHLs in each county according to the online THC atlas and not according to existing entries from Vince's work.

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something like a color for only one image remaining, a color for less than five, less than ten, etc., this small county would be brought out of obscurity and it would be easier to recognize that it was closer to being fully illustrated than some large county which is 90% illustrated but has 200 listings, so requires 20 more to get to 100%.

2715:. What i'd like is a simple 12-colored map with the appropriate counties colored. There is no ordering of regions, so random attractive colors would be great. The map should be relatively stable, although the Comptroller's reporting changed from a 13-region version in 2020 to the current 12-region version for 2022. 2796:(done) and tallies of NRHPs by region (left blank for now). I am thinking the numbers by region wouldn't have to be updated, except rarely (when the map of counts is updated by you), and that would be okay because it would be stated clearly that the tallies given are as of the date the map of counts was updated. 1172:

the building at 1012 South Washington. That building matches the Louisiana state site, and business at that site matches what the Downtown Lafayette web site describes as a real estate company. No such luck on nearby pictures catching the building. Now the problem is figuring out what to rename the file to...

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recently, in which I named and partly blamed you for what I perceived to be happening there. Obviously, i got frustrated. I thought what I wrote would be okay because I was obviously blasting away at the entire world, sort of, and perhaps it would be understood as funny even, but maybe that was not

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Shouldn't there be a "formerly listed" item about it at the original listing county list? In a separate section below the current listings. When I covered ships which moved, that's what i did. Especially because there are sources out there (e.g. private website nationalregisterofhistoricplaces.com,

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The list split has basically been a copy/past job from the original page, replacing the county column with linkable county section headers, adding an images column, and adding images to sites in those counties I've already audited. This process has also provided me with a chance to give a second look

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But, just now, it occurs to me that it would be maybe wonderful if you could _combine_ the two graphics, i.e. do your counts thing but in the 12-color region map. Would that be possible? I guess it would require shadings in each of the 12 hues. Possibly/likely more than you want to take on, but I

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I remember having trouble identifying this site before I left for my trip. Unfortunately, I seem to have guessed wrong. Doing a further examination, I think the Louisiana data system AND the Downtown Lafayette web site both have the wrong address. Looking at the map and aerial imagery, it should be

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Hi, 25or6to4, I am, as always, a fan of your maps of NRHP listings per 100 square miles which adorn the NRHP list-articles for the 53 or so US state and territories. (BTW, somewhere above I saw suggestion that those should include an "as of" date, which offhand sounds good to me, although an editor

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The counties that have already been audited can be instantly recognized as having sites colored according to the table legend, having all marker numbers linked to each site's THC atlas page, almost always having coordinates, and having cities and towns Wikilinked. The audit began in the state's far

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As far as your offer of help for these new lists, what I would really appreciate is for you to review them stylistically compared to other similar lists on Knowledge (XXG). I provided navigational boxes at the top and bottom for each page, but I don't know if that could be improved upon. These are

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40% of the state's counties with the THC atlas including providing marker numbers with links, coordinates, street addresses, and Wikilinking towns whenever possible and incorporating those corrections into the original list. This audit also covered NRHP county lists and articles to fix any glaring

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Perhaps I should acknowledge that sorting out what to do with Texas is not terribly easy. I mentioned at User:Fortguy's Talk page that I saw part of the Ted Cruz - Beto O'rourke debate, in which Beto mentioned, claimed credit for, having visited all 254 counties; my main reaction was too bad he

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I'm ignoring images for sites in counties I haven't audited in the interest in finishing the list split in a timely fashion. Once this is finished, I'll then resume my audit. Part of my process of adding images includes finding all relevant images in Commons and making sure they are appropriately

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I was coming here to ask if you could add an "as of" date to the map of counts (i.e. display that directly in the graphic for readers to see), because I was going to count up the numbers in each region on that, and put those into new 12-row table (incomplete) by region of the numbers of counties

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Ah, I see. You were actually thinking of using it opposite of me haha. I would be looking for counties with only 1 or 2 images left that might be easy to get up to 100%. You would be looking for counties with a lot of images left so you could go on a photography spree. Maybe I can produce a list

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Even for that small benefit, I just don't really see the need for that kind of map. At most I think like a list dumped somewhere by the bot that listed the counties in order of how many images are outstanding would be useful. This could be like a "nearly fully illustrated list" or something, and

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If not, I assume you mean a map based on the actual number remaining in each county, which might highlight some small counties that have only, say, 4 listings, and 3 of them have been illustrated, so it shows up as 75% illustrated, which seems like more work than it is. If we created a map with

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It seems the house was moved, or at least its address changed, to 1021-B. You didn't happen to have a pic of the house in the background, from another angle, by any chance? :) Anyhow, keep up the good work with your photo contributions. I will plug along and develop more Louisiana articles.

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I wonder, could you possibly please make a map of the 10 regions, i.e. showing region boundaries and labels, with county outlines? I think without the numbers of NRHPs, if you could only make one, but perhaps another version with those numbers which could be helpful in informing debate. A

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for a first try. I tried to separate the colors best I could. The file peaked above 37M, so it's a big file. I can jpeg or png instead to get the size down if that would work better. If anything, transcluding the counties did help find two latlons that were way off, which have been fixed.

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and linked separate list-articles for counties, one for each county having any NRHP listings, doesn't serve as well as it should. It is virtually impossible to figure out what counties are near each other in any area, say in the Plains region, and to see the NRHPs on a linked "Map of all

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hard-coded on the pages rather than relying on a separate template. Perhaps the page leads could be stronger and more detailed, and maybe more cross-linking with other general articles about the state's historic sites. Make changes as you please or let me know if you have any suggestions.

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I see no reason to say that the place has been removed from the National Register. DHR's lists are primarily those of the Virginia Landmarks Register; they omit NR-listed places that aren't on the VLR, and they include VLR-designated places that aren't on the NR. You'll note that the

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2822:(although there were no comments by anyone else). With the transclusion approach meaning that nothing changes for editing, I am thinking these could go through and make a better experience for readers and editors in these states. Thanks again for all your help! --Doncram ( 1554:, which works better. You can click on "Map of all coordinates" and see all the NRHPs in the 52 counties that make up the region. There would be 10 such regional groupings, holding all the smaller counties and splitting out to individual pages only the too-large counties. 1340:

Yes, the original listing was when TP610 was located in Tarrant County. But since it has been permanently relocated to Palestine, we keep all listing in the county they are currently located. That's how the lists are kept here at Knowledge (XXG). Thanks for the interest!

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As far as progress so far, I posted the last split-off article last night. I just need to create links from county articles and county NRHP lists to the new page and deal with images. Then, I can finally reformat the original, whittled-down list page for conformity.

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Hey that one in Draftspace was started by me, before i saw 25or6to4's draft in their userspace. I deferred to that one going to mainspace instead. Hmm. Not sure if has historic merit to keep at all. For sake of cleaning up Draftspace, i will move that to

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I don't know where you would stand on such an idea. There seems to be some antipathy towards any change at all. Could you possibly help? Anyhow, either way, thank you for your contributions with NRHP maps as at the right here. Cheers,

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west, and has increased eastward incrementally. All of the completed counties are west of US 281 (Wichita Falls to RGV via San Antonio). Getting the audit above 50% would include all such counties and a handful along the highway itself.

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Hmm, I thought your list was more complete, that it would have all the NRHP-listed ones which are in my draft. Interesting that you have 3 or 4 types apparently. Some version of color-coding like yours might go into the main

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If it's not then where would it be? As is often the case, Puerto Rico is not in the countries database and it's also not in the US database, so ends up not found anywhere. In the case of NRHP, Puerto Rico

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I do not have a copy of Vince's spreadsheet, but it seems to be out of date anyhow. It certainly does not entirely conform with the THC atlas. Before beginning the list split, I had already audited : -->

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Got your email; hope you don't mind discussing it here. I'm not exactly sure what you have in mind for the new map. Are you imagining basically the inverse of the percent illustrated map, except percent

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I imagine it is quite possible that the house at 1022 South Washington Street is not the Daigle House, that there is an error in the Louisiana data system (copied by NRIS). The Louisiana text file (at

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I remember having some difficulty with that one when I last updated the maps. This explains why. I have updated the map to remove the Bedford borders and number, and centered the 31 for the county.

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Yeah, the second part was what I was thinking, highlighting the counties with many available targets in a small area. Was more just curious as to what that would look like. No worries. Thanks!

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was removed from the NR just this fall, well after it got moved to the Delisted page as far as the Virginia DHR cares. Treating it like any other destroyed site is what I'd suggest doing.

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which is bogged down and might not get to any consensus. I would like to work up a very clean proposal, separately, and come back with something ready for an RFC involving more editors.

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discussion section from 2018, above, still. I couldn't obtain any consensus about reorganizing the Texas material back then, and dropped it. Now, what's different is that I am using

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seem to be swapped. I'd fix them myself, except it looks like the densities were calculated from the swapped counts, and I'm not sure how to fix those. Would you mind fixing them?

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Hello, do you know if you could update this map? You deleted the city of Bedford back in October, but aside from that, it's not been updated in a bit over a year. Thanks!

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I see you do a lot of stuff on NRHP. A while ago someone put a message on my talk page soliciting people to create articles on NRHP places. Do you know who that was?

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though i didn't check it) which probably appear to be reliable sources that it is located in Anderson county. There are lots of county list-article examples of this. --

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sorted both ways; I'll work on it when I get some time. I still think a new map would be overkill, though; just look at the blue parts of the illustrated map.--

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and perhaps edit at the Commons page? There is some simple way to request a photo be renamed at Commons, if you agree the photo is not of the Daigle House. --

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Either way, I'd like for the "as of" date to appear, so that the text explaining the 12-row table can be very clear that the numbers there are for that date.

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entirely? Your map shows Bedford as having 0 listings, but the reason that there's no Bedford city list is that the city recently downgraded to a town (see

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Ok, I moved the list over to the main page you listed. What the article could use is a color scale legend, but I'm not sure how those are built.

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Heh. I keep an eye on the pending listings around Texas, so I knew that it was coming. Just happened to pass through there on the exact day!

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Hey, I wonder if you would be interested in helping reorganize the Texas NRHP list-articles. I think that the current system consisting of a

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I wonder, could you possibly create a reference map of Texas, showing its 12 regions as defined by the Texas state Comptroller in 2022

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Thanks for updating the NRHP lists with new listings. Can you please make sure you use the correct refnums when you add them? Thanks!

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Thanks for the inquiry on a map. Unfortunately, I'm on extended paternity leave, and have no access to any of my map-making software.

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Hi, i am back, this time to apologize and to thank you. The apology is this: i am sorry for going off on a bit of a tirade at

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Finally found the original one. Apparently went from SH 121 & US 75 north of McKinney to new US 75. Now part of SH 121.

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It's minor. In the chart on the left, it goes from 4.0-8.0, then 80.0-16.0. Could that extra 0 be deleted, please?

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Thank you for making the map-graphic and for fixing the two latitude-longitude locations. You will have seen that

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Hi 25or6to4, Texas & Pacific Steam Locomotive No. 610 is not listed in Anderson County but in Tarrant County (

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I would be thrilled if you could take on this task. Either way, I remain your fan. :) cheers, --Doncram (

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that never got listed on the NR in the first place. Finally, having spent an inordinate amount of time to

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could be presented by 8 regions that the state uses, and have previously been discussed somewhat (at

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who began that list. That original list included all counties in a single page that was definitely

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would sure be interested in seeing that. And just having one Texas map in the list-article.

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could be presented by just three regions that I previously found, and I suggested that at

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show up on their database. I hope then that P.R. can also be shown on the map. Thanks.--

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Whatever you feel like doing would be great. By the way I am imagining that the

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this link goes to OSM map for all of the Capital region except for Travis County

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page along with a revised table of the 254 counties' tallies, in draft form at

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The title here is exactly what I used for the talk page for each picture file.

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It appears that the original list was created from a spreadsheet possessed by

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National Register of Historic Places listings in Anderson County, Texas

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now includes the region map, as well as the map of counts by county.

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and assorted Texas state highway articles are some of his favorites.

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FYI i have posted about this pending change for the Texas page at

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Hi! I'm wondering if Puerto Rico could be included in your map.

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How about adapt one of these keys and put it at the top?

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