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548:. The Manual of Style says that table colors can appropriately be used to convey information in tables. The chief concerns that might be relevant to the tables here are that there should be sufficient contrast between the text and background colors, and that the colors shouldn't be the only means by which the relevant information is conveyed. Now, all of the colors formerly used in the table conveyed useful information. Whether it's the best way of conveying it is another matter, but one that could have been discussed on the article's talk page. Personally I think it would make more sense to limit the number of colors to planets, moons, dwarf planets, and other objects, instead of using a different color for each planet and its moons. But that's another matter. The table should have had other indications of the type of object, but the remedy for that is to add the missing information, rather than to delete the colors. Now, I'd like to work to fix these problems, but I'd like to see if we can agree on what the accessibility guidelines say before I attempt to do something along those lines, and head off a potential edit war before it can start. Would you review the MOS on table colors, and let me know what you think? 1166: 1078: 953: 865: 628: 101: 40: 592: 365:, I'm not sure if you need to have all the page numbers with the use of the parenthetical referencing in such a short page range. However, I'm leaving the {{page needed}} up, since if the content gets moved away from the introductory paragraph, none of the quotations will make sense. I did remove the section heading, though, because neither the {{ 452:
That would be because my brain turns "Use Harvard referencing" to "Use short footnotes" instead of the actual meaning, "Use only parenthetical referencing". And I love citation templates because it puts information into a standardized format, both machine- and human-readable. It makes the librarian
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page. I made some more changes based off your changes- I didn't realize that I had accidentally made the quotation from the 1958 incident seem to be unsourced. I'm not 100% familiar with all the niceties of Knowledge (XXG) citation, so I invite you to continue your work there if you see any more
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Your edits to Quatrefoil were definitely an improvement, but I'm actually a little afraid of exposing some informally-cited pages (that I'm more directly personally involved in than I was at Quatrefoil) to the merciless glare of fully theoretically-correct sourcing practices...
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o see. I assumed that when someone clicks to edit a page beginning with "Use Harvard referencing|date=December 2017", they would probably do so. Go figure. I'll try to find the easiest way to change back into inline refs and will find Lin's 1995 article again to add the
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I LOVE well-formatted citations. As I say on my userpage, I really think it's something wrong in my brain, but I won't complain. Let me know if you come across (or make) any un-cited or under-cited pages and I'll happily fix them up. And thank you for the compliment,
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Thanks for the information about converting footnotes to parentheticals. Full disclosure, for many reasons, this curmudgeon thinks HTML endnotes (not <fn) formatting is unsuitable for Knowledge (XXG).
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It's a good thing you have the patience for such bibliographical manipulations -- I really don't. It drives me nuts if I try to do anything other than the simplest and most basic form of citing...
1252: 60: 1180: 1092: 966: 878: 641: 56: 750: 287:, but I thought it was just a lack of understanding of wiki reference templates that kept them as parentheticals. I shouldn't have presumed! My apologies. 767: 1234: 1146: 1019: 930: 693: 545: 320:. For the ones where I took the citation from the middle of the sentence to the end, it should be fairly easy to cut & paste them back. 155: 1256: 1230: 1142: 1015: 926: 689: 151: 1204: 1116: 989: 901: 664: 134: 313: 46: 823: 792: 370: 250:
Hi, A garbage person (excellent username, BTW) Thanks for your constructive edits on a couple of articles that I started,
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Consider reverting your change for the time being, but perhaps leave one usage so the page is categorized properly.
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and first discussed changing in-line Harvard citations to footnotes. Is there an easy way to change this back?
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Thanks for the heads up! I usually proof after adding so many--I'm not sure what happened with this one. —
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has reverted your changes due to the "post-expansion template size" issue I mentioned.
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Hi. Would you mind if I asked you, why do you call yourself "a garbage person"?
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It's pretty easy to convert the footnotes back into parentheticals. For
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I'm curious why you like working with citation templates. Best wishes,
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tags and paste the Harvard citation wherever that reference is called.
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My apologies. I've taken it off my to-do list of citation cleanup. —
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Hello, A garbage person. This is a courtesy notice that the
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I don't think either article has any footnotes of the type
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