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as ineligible for visa on arrival (ie. they must get it at the embassy) where they added them (together with Georgia and Egypt) at the same time news said these countries would be getting visa-free treatment. I wouldn't necessarily blame IATA for this as Iranians are really sloppy about this (they haven't officially published their visa policy on any website in ages) so I am not surprised that there is confusion between complete opposites - visa-free vs. not even visa on arrival. I guess Iran just notified IATA there's some change with Lebanon, Georgia and Egypt but didn't properly explain what changes. Also news outlets might be wrong, maybe they are getting visa on arrival but for free.--

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make much sense, especially since there are many obscure and also many overlapping groups. The only supranational citizenship that exists and that I know of is the EU citizenship. Therefore in lists of countries based on citizenship the only grouping that makes sense is the EU citizenship. The EFTA countries are very closely associated and their citizens have pretty much the same rights as the EU citizens but it's still not the same thing, there is no citizenship that groups them, just various directives. This is my conclusion.--

1060: 1268: 1224: 1925:. The problem is that it's unclear how to classify this, is it an eVisa, visa on arrival, pre-approved visa collection (like Vietnam had for a while and still does for many countries) or a simplified issuance procedure? Could you check with Timatic when they are going to update their page for Angola given that this entered into force on 30 March and there's still been no updates. I would be interested to see how they classify it.-- 756:. Unlike the "United States Passport Card", which carries text stating that it can not be used for air travel or outside a limited geographical area, the Irish government does not restrict the mode or geographical area of travel for its passport card and its document is unequivocally labelled (in three languages) as a "PAS/PASSPORT/PASSEPORT" and as nothing else. It is NOT an "ID card" unless your language is sloppy. 2344: 2235: 2143: 2070: 1750: 1316: 2434: 718:

very interested to see what happens when someone tries to take off for Israel on an El Al flight just using one of these new passport cards (the Irish government are claiming they incorporate all the latest security features...) - especially considering that fake Irish and NZ passports are favorites of Mossad.

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OK so they updated Iran data to say that Lebanese tourists may obtain a visa on arrival for 30 days. Iranian news outlets said that Lebanese are getting visa-free treatment. Almost all tourists get visa on arrival for 30 days now. That's why this doesn't make much sense. Also IATA still lists Lebanon

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Remember that, from the time of their first introduction and for at least 400 years until 1920, passports did not have blank pages ready for stamping or affixing visas, so this "new fangled" passport card is just taking advantage of the modern IT systems which many immigration authorities now use to

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Please remember that there is a lot of political capital invested in the the Irish passport card by Irish politicians. They are deliberately being cautious in the early stages since the Irish dept of foreign affairs needs time to educate foreign governments and conclude bilateral agreements. I'll be

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Hi! I was wondering do you use any app that tracks changes for IATA Timatic pages? I used page monitor which was perfect (it would send me a notification every time a text was changed but it would ignore dates) but they just merged it with VisualPing which is horrendous (compares screenshots, keeps

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Hi! I was the one who initially introduced the EU/EFTA to visa lists. However after careful deliberation I've realized this is not a good option. The reason is that there is no such thing as EFTA citizenship. So if we group EFTA together we can also group Mercosur, GCC, ASEAN etc. And this wouldn't

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I expect a passport card to function exactly like a passport booklet with no page available for stamping because all it's pages have already been completely used and covered with entry stamps/visas. It remains a document acceptable at the discretion of the receiving power and conforms to whatever

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can be used to get a visa on arrival. If you look at passport exemptions, it says EITHER a compatriot permit OR a Taiwan ID. With a Compatriot permit, no visa is needed, but with the Taiwan ID, one is obtained on arrival, and no further documentation is needed for this (except at a few airports,

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I suggest you read it carefully. The Timatic states "Passengers with a national ID card issued by Chinese Taipei(Taiwan Identity Card) residing in Chinese Taipei can obtain a single entry visa at Beijing (PEK), Chengdu (CTU), Fuzhou (FOC), Guilin (KWL), Haikou (HAK), Jinan (TNA), Ningbo (NGB),

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You just contradicted yourself on your last reply by saying that it was a "loose-leaf entry endorsement" and not a visa. Now you can ask your friend to translate for you, word by word, whether the term "visa" appeared on that document. Keep in mind that your claim so far is anecdotal and not

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That does NOT mean that holders of this card can USE IT to enter mainland China. No one is disputing the fact that they can get a TCP on arrival at international airports, but they have to hand in their TCP for immigration clearance, NOT their ID card. That's a fundamental difference. Also I

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She confirms that neither Turks nor Georgians seemed to bat an eyelid when they swiped her brand new Irish passport card. (Hong Kong was rather different, but I need to ask her permission before I spill the beans for reasons which will then be obvious if she gives her permission...)

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Holders of normal passports traveling as tourist can obtain a visa on arrival, for a max. stay of 15 days if: - arriving at Gheshm Island (GSM), Kish Island (KIH), Mashhad (MHD), Esfahan (IFN), Shiraz (SYZ), Tabriz (TBZ) and Tehran Imam Khomeini (IKA) or Tehran Mehrabad

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At least they're diligent about notifying IATA. I don't like how Mozambique hasn't reported their change to the visa on arrival policy, if it is true and not a misunderstanding (I mailed IATA three times submitting evidence but they didn't even bother to respond)

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Some countries seem to have an insane visa policy and that includes Senegal. In the last few months they've changed their policy at least three times completely randomly adding and removing countries from the list without any public notification except to

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Now Iran media (no idea why official websites never publish any information in this country) is saying that visa on arrival is only for 58 countries. The fact that the new list includes Yugoslavia is not very reassuring. Ugh.

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Please take care not to prejudice their answers by calling the Irish passport card an "Irish identity card" when you query various authorities, or you risk muddying the waters and prejudicing what is potentially a very handy

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I REALLY look forward to finding out what countries will accept it. Still awaiting a mail from several countries btw and I think I shall mail the US, Canada, Australia, Brazil, South Africa, Argentina and Israel as well.

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Qingdao (TAO), Sanya (SYX), Shenyang (SHE), Wuhan (WUH), Wuxi (WUX), Xi An (XIY) and Xiamen (XMN) for a maximum stay of 3 months." Nowhere in it says that the Taiwan ID card can be used for ENTRY into mainland China.

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Sorry, I really shouldn't be editing when my brain's tired. The parts where I add "or airport code" I find necessary though, because it often makes it easier to look up a country. Please check the latest edit

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Well, some improvement at least. And I agree, I think this issue is due to a miscommunication between Iran and IATA. I even tried mailing the Iranian Mofa to find out the truth - no answer for 2 weeks now.

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I don't suppose there are many international travellers (ab)using it yet, but I have now managed to see an image of the obverse (which has "PCMDV" as the first 5 characters in the machine readable zone):

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What, I thought they already did this for all Schengen countries. Anyhow, I see nothing suggesting they've actually implemented it, nor has Timatic been updated (it says 45 and not 90 nationalities are

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As an experiment, she has been going to the rest room and removing her uniform hat and then covering up her uniform before joining the line for the normal foreigner entry channel in various countries.

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is the official response from the Exit and Entry Administration. If you prefer to verify this information, then you'd better call one of the EEA inspection stations in Beijing, Shanghai or Guangzhou.

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Hi there. I have reverted your edit because Taiwan ID cards, like other travel and identity document issued by Taiwan, are not accepted in Mainland China. The only valid identification for them is a

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Hi - am going to Macedonia for a week. I have a Schengen Multiple entry (Germany) visa Type C which I have not used yet. Will I be able to enter Macedonia on this visa? I come from South Africa.

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Wow, just wow! A full-scale passport in card format. This feels revolutionary - maybe Ireland is simply the first country to introduce what may become the norm by the end of the century or so O_o

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It's a shame that IATA refuses to communicate with me any longer (or even acknowledge my queries) :/ Otherwise this might (or might not, depending on the Iranians) have been cleared up by now.

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Wrong, check the IATA database used by airlines. I've also messaged IATA and asked them to double-check with their Chinese government sources. For up to 3 months, the Taiwanese ID is enough

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Would you be able to translate this article for the German Knowledge (XXG)? I have been making requests to translators on the List of German translators. Have not yet had any replies.

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Wow, so if this is neither an ID card nor a passport, but something in its own right, that means a lot of countries now have a whole new document type regarding which to take a stand.

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As adoption is quite big in Romania. I was wondering if there was any chance that you could translate this article, even just as a Stub for the Romanian Knowledge (XXG)?

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before clearing immigration (there's usually a separate counter reserved for them next to the VOA counter) and without it, they will be removed from Mainland China.

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With this said, again, how do you know the visa on arrival for Taiwanese ID holders is in fact a TCP? Do you know for a fact that a TCP can be obtained on arrival?

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bilateral and multilateral agreements that have already been reached for "passports" - even if, legalistically, those historic agreements may have had passport

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My friend (who is both Irish and air crew, but is not employed by an Irish airline) has been doing some practical tests on Irish passport card acceptance.

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Wow, interesting. I mailed Hong Kong asking whether they accept ID cards "provided they're biometric and ICAO 9303 compliant". They said they didn't.

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as an umbrella article and want to have historical, mythological, anthropological aspects, reverence or worships wherever concerned as a small part.

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Great. Will wait for 2 weeks and see if IATA updates their list. If not, I'll report it. Speaking of which, what's the main source that can be used?

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not completeness, so if the English article is much shorter that is okay, as long as whatever has been translated so far is factually accurate.

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in mind at the time they were concluded since there was no anticipation of a passport in card format being introduced in the (distant) future...

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countries, all of which accept EU ID cards anyway. ALSO, in each and every mail, I have attached an image so that they can see what it says.

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Hi! No, I don't even know of such apps, hence why I have a somewhat hard time tracking changes in the right country at the right time.

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since you have a designated contact with IATA now I was wondering if you could check a few things that I've noticed could be an issue.

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me here to let me know. You can add your pass/fails above, right next to each link, or you may indicate your results below. Thanks!

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Do you have any news on Indonesia? They said "starting from Oct. 1, Indonesia will grant visa-free from all Schengen countries" -

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SO it's been introduced? If so I'll message TIMATIC and advise them to add this as a passport exemption for entering the Maldives

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I'm going to see if I can find a mail address to border police at Jakarta (or any other) airport. If I can, I'll mail and ask.

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Hi, I've noticed you removed the Kish island airport from the list of VoA eligible airports. However it is listed by IATA -

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And please note that I have NOT reported on Hong Kong - all I wrote was "Hong Kong was rather different..."

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Hi. Pakistan cancelled the visa-free agreement with Zambia recently due to some misuse (drug smuggling) -

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website says that Singapore, Malaysia and Mauritius are also visa-free which are not listed by IATA -

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In the earliest few mails, I made the mistake of calling it an ID card, however those mails were to

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Sounds like the Irish card may become much more "powerful" as a travel document than the others

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Simply put, the ones in charge of this are noobs! I'll check if IATA made any updates on this

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My gosh, now I want Sweden (my country of citizenship) to introduce passport cards as well!

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Uganda - IATA says visa-free for Irish and Hong Kong - no word of that on the official page

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Indonesian president just signed the decree with immediate effect. They were 7 days late.--

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So if you first visit Kish and then, say, Tehran, then you'll have to get a VoA in Kish?

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Syria - probably impossible to check but the news say they imposed visas on all visitors

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Its machine readable part begins "IP" rather than "ID" to designate its document type.

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Thanks, just replied to that. I didn't know I was not free to upload my own passport.

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Mozambique - new rules on visitors from countries hosting an embassy of Mozambique

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No, never touched that page other than when uploading my visa as a sample image

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Strange! Neither the official Pakistani website nor IATA suggest this.

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Alright, I understand! I messaged you about South Africa btw.

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Thanks for your prompt & comprehensive response, André.

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The Irish passport card is emphatically NOT an "ID card".

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