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Equality Movement, for example. This is a pretty obscure name that an organized group have decided to call themselves to signify what the are fighting for. It suggests things, such as organization, but the name does not suggest that they fight at all. It suggests to me that they are concerned with having a good PR image within the international community. I know a different side of the story. I know what weapons they use, what tea they drink, when they pray and how, which by the way is illustrated in one of my photographs at the link below. I know how they travel, what they eat, how old their youngest rebels are... I know their names. These are all questions I get from the hundreds of audiences I've spoken to and shown this work to. I am sure they are questions wikipedia users have too and none of it is listed in the article
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Justice and Equality Movement through the desert and decimated villages and therefore do not need to see photographs because you have truly experienced the topics I am trying to illustrate. However there is a good percentage of the population who does require imagery, and I do not think it appropriate for you to suppress it for those individuals. I hope you are willing to see my links as a means to illustrate the topics I have photographed, or possibly as a cultural backdrop for the experience of learning about those subjects, for those who will never go to these paces and do the things I have done - especially for those who learn visually.
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that maybe it was done because during the time Maria has become notable within her own right. Then, the big surprise, when I checked the history page, I found out that the person or user had recreated the article and as I said before by pasting my original work and taking the credit as creator. I wasn't about to let this happen, so what I did was delete the copy and redirect the original with the real history page. Anyway, I don't have anthing against the merge, but I think that maybe Maria has become notable on her own merits.
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In rereading your second notice to me, I see that you are referring only to the link for the
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You are a good person to interact with. Just for the sake of common knowledge. You are going to put a time limit for the consensus, right? I mean, we are are not going to have a year long consensus (smile). I wouldn't want the people looking into the possibility of promoting Buddy Holly's article to
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I hope this is the proper way to open a dialogue with you... I am a new user and am still coming up to speed on how most things work. In regards to your policing of my inclusions; I am the photographer of the work in question. Now, I can always appreciate accountability and I see a grey area
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Words are critical - I truly believe that, but they are symbols nonetheless for concepts and require of us our own previous experiences and prior knowledge to leverage meaning within our minds. Photographs, like mine, capture the essence of a thing which requires little or no words to leverage
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