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the machines to turn out trinkets for household use. I don't know how you would express a concept like it in an
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Hi, You are moving ahead now. I have to make some speed to stayed overlapped for the next mark... or I have to slow you down:-). So I have a question. Is the riging of the Star in the years 1948 - 1956 not too modern? I was thinking the top batten became a full batten in 1999? Thanks for your help,
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The Lark! That's quite a discovery. I looked them up on the web because I knew they are still used (and build) in
Friesland. I mail you some pictures. I can not find the dates. The hull looks similair but in the early 1920's they start to use full battened sails. I try to find pictures of the newly
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Olympics are not considered by specialists as Olympics : they are "Sailing at Exposition universelle de 1900 à Paris". And the results of the One Ton Cup of Cercle de la voile de Paris is much more important
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Internet and Musea I found some resonable reliable information on this one:-) The name differs from document to document. Olympic monotype it self is not unique since there where some others. Also the Addition Olympic is not allowed
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English for this phrase would be. I'm not sure; a literal translation is "work in wig". From your description it sounds like you mean "doing personal work on company time, using your employer's workspace, tools, office machines, etc. to produce work for oneself". Does this mean
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idea (about 2005) i'm digging into the history of the classes involved and many times I was disappointed how bad history of such an important area of sailing is preserved. Even at the committees and federations involved it is hard to get (right) information (if any). E.g. within ISAF is seems
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I't me again:-) In the upgrade of sailing at the .... Summer
Olympics I also added 1896!. Some controversion has arisan about this. Since sailing was a Olympic sport as well as that it was on the program I like to keep it as separate article. Can you please shine your light about this issue?
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I did not make enought posts in en:WP to write "Keep" or "Delete" in the discussion. But I think it is not so important, even if you put 1896 in some sheets. Forget that, you will not winn against the "Wikiproject
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Done. What about the suggestion of me that the organizing committee came short of a six boats and they used the
Scheldejol as extra and even then they needed a 17th one? We know for sure there where 6 boats with different
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I will also mail the secretarty of the 8 Metre club maybe he knows when they started to use the 6, 8 12 in the sail. On the otherhand it makes it easier for the less historic sailor to recognize them in the
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I agree that we must come up with something better. What do you think off French National Monotype 1924? When we settle on a name can we leave the link to Meulan intact so that it links to the new name?
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Supply a quality mark for classes. These Vintage Yachting Classes provide the sailing world for many years in the past and also many years to come a high level of international regatta sailing
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The Dutch entry in the 1900 Olympics was a sharpy design. Giving the starting point of the Lark this might have been a "Vrijbuiter" or "Z" class. I will include a picture in the mail as well.
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Hi, this is as example the gold medalist of 1952. It seems like the Jib is smaller and the main leech less curved than the modern star. It looks more like the 1936 rigg.
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For the participating discontinued Olympic classes we organize every four years the Vintage Yachting Games Next, a true Post Olympic event, next event 2012 at Lake Como.
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impossible to get the right information of which person on board was the helmsman. So it is good to meet a person who knows where he is talking about.
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The Dutch/Belgium class has some different measurements (among other things 10cm smaller and less sail and no spinnaker) so we can not use Scheldejol.
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