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think anyone has noticed yet, but if they do it will sink the articles for sure. It has actually been challenged in each individual liked bio that the people are members, and actual refs will be needed. People are being thorough, andy ou will have to be. Regret I cant find time to help but it isnt my main interest.
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Hollerich-Bonnevoie was granted the title of a city. If you want to argue the toss with him about usage of the French language, be my guest. Just as miserable is an attempt to argue the toss with me, since I understand the nuances of both 'ville' and 'stadt' perfectly
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