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father and daughter comes across not any were near as fractured as it should be. My guess is that maybe they did not want the tone to be too dark?? Wallander is quite dark for being co-produced by PBS/WGBS Boston. I cannot help but wonder if they had a say in this or some kind of influence?? Over all they are doing an OK job compressing the stories into a 120 min format. The
Swedish films directly based on the books are over way over 2 hours. I REALLY wonder what they will do if they get around to do a series 3?? Before The Frost changes the setting with Linda as a police officer and Pyramid is all short stories, that I guess they could tweak. The new Wallander book reportedly closes the door to any further books according to an interview Mankell did over the phone with Swedish pubcaster Svt. Yellowbird owns the rights to 24 Kurt Wallander story concepts that Mankell has written for them (Some good, some not so good), could be an option. I also think that Mankell could be motivated to write brand new teleplays. He wrote two some kind of special anniversary episodes for German cop show “Heimat” and has created and written some miniseries for Swedish television in the 90’s. In the interviews Mankell has done with Swedish media about the BBC series he has been VERY enthusiastic, and this is a man who mostly speaks very slowly and looks concerned.
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Wallander got better reviews in the US then anywhere else. But then one needs to take into account that it was shown on PBS and not ABC or CBS.I hoping they might enlist a Scandinavian director. Jonas Gimas would be a good choice (he is based in London and has worked on the Swedish Wallander among other stuff) or Niels Arden Oplev who directed The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo movie and did some work on Danish cop show Unit One/ Rejseholdet, a show that has a similar visual style to BBC’s Wallander. But I know I am just being partial here.
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Wallander". Well the actor in question was assigned to play "Wallander's father" and his dads name is Povel in the books. By the way, I really, really appreciate all your contributions and input on the
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though I'm not sure. I moved some of the writing info to "Remove?", which I have no problem removing. The information I have about "Pat the Cop" is not in the pilot article. If you want, remove if form my sandbox and add it to the Pilot article. The rest of the writing info seems better now, but tell me if you think it still requires further clean-up. Remember,
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Wallander books started selling in Germany and later followed by the Swedish language films, Ystad, not exactly a tourism hot spot was flooded by Germans and one of the reasons WHY this production was able to get many tax cuts was that the Ystad city council and the tourism board there was hoping to replicate this phenomenon)
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Hi, I agree, the whole "won't they/will they" section can go. I think the choices of books to be adopted are purely made on the basis that tey can sgoot in Ystad. The Dogs of Riga is in my opinion one of the strongest books and slso THE book that made
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Sounds great, and thanks for the advice. I tweaked the writing section a bit, but you're right, it needs more work. I'm not really sure if we're allowed to cite YouTube (copyright issues), but if we know the original source of that clip, we can cite it to that. I think it's from the sixth season DVD,
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Now I become uncertain. As I said it was over 10 years ago I read them. David Warner is listed as Povel
Wallander on IMBD, but then maybe someone is basing this on MY Wiki entry here. I have to check with my father. If I somehow have “dreamed” up the name Povel, I apologize. I did not intend to cause
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Aisling Walsh. I used to watch the Bill when it was on the air in Sweden in the 90’s and Trail & Tribulations sounds very familiar. I think they have been way a head on pre-production then they let anyone know. Splitting the series up sounds like a good idea. I
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Sorry, I couldn't find anything other than the source articles. Usually I'm able to fluke it and find copied versions of the article on other sites, but I guess these ones have been well kept. I guess you can ask the wider community at the TV WikiProject, because I think several people will be able
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Its fustrating I know to get pulled up on images; I do music articles and we have the same problem with sound files, can only use a few. But the policy is as it is, and here we are. I'd say stike your reply to F-Nua, engage him/her and see what happens. Its not the major selling part of the article
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Well, the good news is that I'm almost done. The only major thing left is sourcing the awards and ratings. The ratings are going to be hard to source properly, and the awards just as time-consuming. What do you think is the best way to go about both sections? Do you think the awards section is good
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I'm really impressed with what you've done with that article, and suggest that you take it to FAC soon. I think it's GA passable now, but before you take it to FAC, you should check out the Doctor Who production material available: Doctor Who Confidential at Christmas, The Next Doctor Podcast, and
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Hey, thanks so much, it's nice to be acknowledged like that every now and again. :) Hopefully the transition does go smoothly, and a semi-protection isn't needed. I've nominated it for GA (which I guess you noticed), although I'm still a bit concerned about the ratings. Hopefully something will be
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Here is something I wanted to run by you before I do anything. Various Swedish media outlets has recently reported that due to the Wallander series, Ystad has recieved a HUGE increase in tourists form the UK. I am not 100% that it belongs in this entry, but it is a kind of interesting. (Nor it is
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Reverting my retitling from "UK TV Series" suggests to me that you think "TV Series" is more helpful or less inaccurate in some way. Your note on this reversion says you've done this in the interest of consistency. Can you explain this? I don't see the value of this over the necessity (in this
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Thanks, I was going to look at the lead. I was thinking about GA possibly at some point; do you think there is anything else needed prior to nomination? I'm also not sure whether to alter the article to define it as more of a feature-length drama rather than a film and using the TV infobox rather
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I added a small section about the Wallander series inpact on Ystad and Skane tourism. I bet Wallander will take home the Emmy for best mini-series. I know I am partial since I really enjoyed this series, but since I am currently living in the US, I cannot imagine a mini-series that can compete.
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I really loved the Wallander books when I read them (even if I think Henning Mankell whole idea of “something is rotten in Sweden” is really exhadurated) and I am an enormous fan of British crime dramas, so I am really, really looking forward to the Wallander series. PBS broadcasts with very low
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I agree with you about Faceless Killers. They should have done that book in series one, maybe as a 2 parter. That book pretty much sets the tone for the whole series of books and his relationship with Rydberg. I also agree with you about Linda. She comes of so wrong and the relationship between
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I'll rewrite the plot once I get back from my holiday (in around one week), and then I'll ask another editor to copyedit it again. FA reviewers are extremely tough on prose, and I don't think my writing is good enough. :P I suggest asking another editor to copyedit the entire article prior to
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I don't have the companion books, but I think there is enough info on the web to cover production (although I'm having trouble finding filming info, especially in regards to the apartments). Also, I am worried about what you noted. Even if I published my final copy, over time the article will
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I am the guy who has been contributing to the Wallander page with info from Swedish media. Mostly from my other computer where I don't have my screen name saved (yep, I have forgot my password). I just NOW realised you have leaft me a message on the talk page in October about the name "Povel
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The Man Who Smiled will allow for alot of filming around Southern Swedish country estates, something Left Bank seems to enjoy. What do you think? The choice of Hettie Macdonald to take on The Faceless Killers is interesting as it some how goes hand in hand with her film White Girl.
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Thanks for your message. I must admit to not having the same concerns, and so long as its properly sourced (which it is), then it has a place within the article - even if it could be found elsewhere. The main article will be people's first point of call after all. Regards.
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Weird, I was thinking the exact same thing about the image just a couple of days ago. Maybe an image featuring all of them in either the coffee house or the apartment? I haven't really been that involved with the article, so I'll leave the nomination up to you.
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Thanks, it means a lot. I'm hoping to get the article to GA status, so any input/thoughts would be appreciated. :) The whole process will probably take a while, but I may publish segments of what I have completed at small intervals. I will definitely contact
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Okay, I found you a half dozen reviews and sent them to you. They are all from before the airdate of the pilot and most of them are negative about the show. I tried to find some 100% positive reviews, but there weren't any. Either way, I hope that helps. --
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image quality so a lot of the “marvels” of the Red One camera will most likely “fall flat” to American viewers. Due to this the UK or the Swedish DVD’s will be a must. On Amazon UK you can still find those books with "Branagh free" covers :-)
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What do you think about Yellowbird giving Stieg Larssons books a English language treatment? How are you enjoying The Pyramid? Have you read Mankell’s “Return of the Dance Master”? The book actually ties into the Wallander books.
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Indeed! I suspect however that getting all of that info would cost quite a pretty penny. Overnights, share and officials will all be freely available though - the Primeval page is a good example of how that can be structured.
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Now I don't have a scanner at home so I'll see what if I can arrange to use one tomorrow. However, if you want, would you rather I implement the info or just leave it to you with your presumably greater knowledge of the film?
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the promotion to FL. So far, only one user has given their support/opposition rather than just commented, and it is getting close to the 10 days before the article is reviewed. I would really appreciate it.
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Ystad Allehanda had a big article today about Series 2. Feel free to edit it as much as you want. Have you heard who the other directors will be? I cannot find any info about this.
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Well I tried to implement as much as possible, but I just wasn't too sure whether I was reading anything relevant. I will scan it for you to decide tomorrow, I promise.
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Argh, that's a shame. Some shows have fan sites with heaps of screenshots from each episode. I am a bit busy right now (with homework), so I'll talk to you later. :)
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