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Underground 2, the official EA approved Prima guide includes character descriptions, but nothing about the plot. I don't know if a game itself can be used as a reference for a plot, since a full play through would take a long time, and some games have alternate plot lines (like dark or light side in the Lucas Star War games).
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Underground 1, so I don't know why
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Eh...speaking purely for myself, I'm not sure it's worth mentioning. It'd be one thing if a piece of the
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I'm sorry your friend is dead, but being a jerk online is a pretty sad way of venting your sadness, and trying to scam money from people (by trying to get them to buy a car that doesn't exist) is also pretty sad in and of itself. I'll give you credit for knowing basic GM RPO code structure, though.
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Someone on discord asked me to edit the Wiki article to note that the bot behavior is always the same regardless of the plot. It's too far back in the chat history now to find it again. I was willing to do the edit one time, but it's not important to me. I'm not sure why
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All I know is that I distinctly remember Bob Varsha mentioning it during the ESPN telecast of the 1993 Japanese GP; my dad has the race on tape (albeit
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2. I know the
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I'll have to verify this, but the issue may have been due to the "donuts" seen in the U2 prologue. Donuts are possible in U2, but I don't think they are possible in U1. EA's in house tools allow them to set cameras and/or pan/move cameras anywhere for either game (as most of their other NFS games),
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In this case, there was no attempt to redress that part of the map, it's clearly Lower
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I'll let you mull the first point over. Onto the second one, I still cannot find a source backing up the statement, I understand what you mean and yes, it would seem obvious to anyone that reusing the same tooling and assembly lines that there should be economies of scale, but for now it fails
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I forgot to follow up on this. One of the early cut scenes in Underground 2 is from the Underground 1 map, showing a car going over the 3 drops from Stadium circuit track, but there is no Hummer SUV in Underground 1, so that is probably why EA used the Underground 2 map for the Hummer scene.
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My guess would engine limitations, or they simply didn't feel it was necessary (knowing EA, it's probably the latter). Again, I personally don't see it as a big deal, but I am merely one man so if you want to solicit feedback from other users, don't let me stand in your way.
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it here in Japan'; I haven't seen the tape in a long time but I know that's very similar to what he said. I will grant it's possible he was misinformed, since he and Derek Daly went on to discuss other things and didn't dwell on the subject of 4WS.
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