796:: "you've added alan roger currie's name to gary, indiana, indiana university, List of Kappa Alpha Psi brothers, and miller light comedy search even creating that article just to add his name. you are clearly here to promote this person. stop pretending otherwise. you've gotten these other editors to rally behind keeping this article which was deleted once, you immediately recreated it, and keep lying by saying i told you to do so, when i actually told you to USERFY it and WAITuntil it's notable. instead, you just recreated it within 24 hours, and then it was deleted again. this is a waste of everyone's time, and you are abusing wikipedia for promotional purposes. this Currie guy has TRIVIAL degrees of notability at best. the independent coverage is a joke, the reliable sources are not widespread or in depth, just trivial and self promoting. the one article that supposedly was evidence of his notability was just a self promotion, probably written by him."
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332:], you said you were a "close friend" of alan roger currie, and when someone offered to discuss this with you, you offered alan roger currie's email address as a way to get into contact with you. i would suggest that you read the COI guidelines again and just trust that these rules exist to make the encyclopedia better, not to keep good articles out.
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I'd suggest you update your comment in the DrV to "Contrary to what's being implied above, I'm not an employee of XXX. Anyone interested in further discussion of this can go to Thxxxxx's talk page" and bring this discussion there rather than the DrV (which this will derail).
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