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508:). It is antisemitic for someone to spray-paint a swastika on a synagogue or Jewish household's door -- and it was antisemitic to do so in the years 1933, 1945, 2000, 2022, and 2024. You can't simply say that every page related to Arabs or Israelis, or Muslims or Jews, is covered by the contentious topic restrictions. It is not being proposed that the ADL is an unreliable source only after 7 October, 2023, or only after 1967 -- it is being proposed that the ADL is an unreliable source for all time, from 1913 onwards. Simply put, the two topics are not the same, and saying that they are stifles the discussion. (Of note, the word "antisemitism" does not appear at all in the 308: 25: 269: 553: 342:. These are specially designated topics that tend to attract more persistent disruptive editing than the rest of the project and have been designated as contentious topics by the Arbitration Committee. When editing a contentious topic, Knowledge’s norms and policies are more strictly enforced, and Knowledge administrators have special powers in order to reduce disruption to the project. 759:
OK. My instinct is to then leave the draft alone and see if someone else picks it up. It seems odd to me that the same material that is deemed worthy of publication on a disambiguation page without any citations cannot without a lot more be placed in its own page in Knowledge, but if those are the
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I entirely acknowledge that this isn't a fully fleshed out article, but I do see stub articles on Knowledge all the time, so clearly going beyond stub status is not a requirement for basic publication. My hope is that once the article is published then others will contribute. Thank you.
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that is related the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, as the main locus of the dispute is over their identification of anti-Zionism with antisemitism, not that antisemitism in toto is related to the conflict. Further, the point of these restrictions is to discourage
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page to an extended discussion of a television network ownership group. I'm really more interested in a way to refer to all three TV3 networks in the Baltics at once. Also, Viasat has been defunct since 2021, so it seems less notable than a group that the
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so that the channels have a link back to the owning company. As for the second question there may be some standard template but I can't think of one of the top of my head, you could try asking at a more open forum such as the
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It's interesting that you believe topic 1 and topic 2 on the reliable sources discussion are effectively the same, when the whole point of breaking up the topics was a recognition that they are different.
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with these messages. I may only have 190+ edits on Knowledge (and another 55+ on Wikidata), but I am not a sockpuppet and you are discouraging my (and others) participation in an important discussion.
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and to ensure a higher quality of discussion; I intend to continue enforcing community rules in order to maintain a fair and productive work environment despite the contentiousness of these topics.
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Editors are advised to err on the side of caution if unsure whether making a particular edit is consistent with these expectations. If you have any questions about contentious topics
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Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit
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rules, so be it. Is there a good way for me to indicate to other editors that they are very welcome to go ahead and edit and submit it for publication?
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owned by TV3 Group are worthy of Knowledge article status, then its ownership group should be as well. I have added an outside reference to the
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It's normal to feel a little overwhelmed, but don't worry if you don't understand everything at first—it's fine to edit using common sense.
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Hi Coining, unfortunately that is not how Knowledge works. All new articles on Knowledge have to show the subject is notable (See
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Just find something that can be improved and make it better. Other editors will help fix any mistakes you make.
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has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by KylieTastic was:
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Thank you for the suggestion, though I'll pass on that option. I'm not especially interested in linking the
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topic that you have cited. Seeking to extend the contentious topic restrictions, such as the
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I disagree with your framing of my action: my position is that it is
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