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happened, despite it being a well-documented part of his life in the media eye. So it's not just that I think that it should be mentioned, and that I see it (his involvement in the LGBT community, generally) reflected in the media alongside his name over the years, it's that many people active in the media want to conceal this about Lamo, in order to advance their political interests and in order to hurt him. (One
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Martiniquans as a people. Fanon always considered himself as a French man. So, not only is "Martiniquan" incorrect regarding WP rules on nationality, but it is unacceptable, as it gives an impression which is very different from the reality : Martinique is not (and was not at his time) a colony (Fanon went to school as all French children), and Fanon never defended that opinion. AND there is nothing controversial about that.
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I appreciate your point, but I think you misread the citation. I added a citation which was not a primary document, and it was that citation that you most recently blanked. The significance of his involvement with the LGBT community is multifaceted, but suffice it to say that because the media has
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Hi RolandR, thanks for your inquiry. I don't remember making the edit, or even the individual in question, but I can see what my logic was. I'm sure I came to the suspicious, uncited assertion that "he had accepted large sums of funding from the CIA without disclosing the fact" and, flagging that
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I see what you're saying. To me, though, it looks like blanking Lamo's involvement in the LGBT community not only distorts the image of Lamo as captured in the media for many years, it's actually part of a program of defaming him. I don't mean to suggest that that's what you mean to do, it's just
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I want you not to misunderstand. I am not disagreeing with you necessarily, only showing you that your view is one of several views. I am familiar with Fanon's earlier writing about his French identity, too. 'We
Algerians', this is regarded as a sort of conclusion, though, by some scholars. I'm
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Frenchman when he uses the words "We Algerians..."? Michael Azar writes, "It is clear already from how Fanon locates his own “I”: it is no longer “we Frenchmen,” or “we Martinicans,” but rather “we Algerians.” Fanon has chosen to take part in this
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Hi! Regarding that rollback, I found the material inappropriate for the opening, because it presents a view that is not typical, common, or central to the historical memory. That is, I would not expect to find that in a book on the subject... I agree that it would be worthy of inclusion in the
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I see what you mean. but the source cited merely retails, without confirmation, what Boing Boing has said; I still think it's marginal on notability grounds here - if we are going to speculate (or report speculation) on why
Bradley Manning confided in Adrian Lamo I think that belongs on Manning's
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Does that make sense? If his critics from within the LGBT community (e.g., Greenwald) seek to destroy him, that's precisely what they have to omit from their op-eds, except when that involvement can be used to smear him as a traitor. His passionate critics want to pretend that this stuff never
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This article was full of lies a few weeks ago, even propagating the false information that his name would be "Frantz Omar Fanon". I know Fanon, his life and his works quite well, and read all his books (in French). You could not find a word from him speaking of
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Chinese nationalists by choosing that word. Dramatization, exaggeration, uncertainty; a parable, true in symbol, uncertain in detail; there are plenty of more accurate, less confrontational ways to make the point!
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This was published in university press, with books as sources. And why is the lead undue? The idea is to show that while the general opinion is that the internment happened because of the
Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, the President actually ordered the lists
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my perception of the function of that omission. He has been the homeless hacker who cares about the gay community for a long time, and now he's being transformed into something else by his critics.
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I added a 'see also'. I don't know if that's enough, but it's a link at least. I'll have to play around with that Historiography article at some point. Thanks!
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