User talk:DMCer/Archive 1 - Knowledge (XXG)

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I usually have over 75 tabs open in multiple browser windows (all various stages of editing/browsing article histories), I got your talk page history mixed up with your user (and one other user's) contributions, in that I was staring at a series of "blanked page" edit summaries and wrongly assumed your were blanking sections. That was my mistake, and while I don't believe it was appropriate to remove the section in question, please regard the template and edit summary an honest mistake. I would have instead posted a message on your talk page to discuss the removal. *** You said that "there is no direct connection with the organization in those accusations." I would think that the founders of the organization = a connection to the organization. You also stated that the sources were unreliable, when they weren't. If you said that the NEFA sources amounted to original research, rather than simply being "unreliable," then you would have had a point. While simply blanking the entire section could be considered being bold, I don't think it was the best way to go about fixing the section. Anyway, I fixed it today, and I believe my revisions have addressed the concerns of those involved. Thanks—

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American anti discriminaion committee (ADC) to Merrill Lynch protesting their conduct. Now you replace one article of NIAC by another and you drop the ADC statement!! The last version of the post is very conservatively written avoiding any personal comments. The statments attributed to EEOC are in the text of their law suit. Malice, Reckless, and intentional are descriptions of EEOC of Merrill's conduct. Also I prefer Hyperlinks to references at the end of the page. They are easier to access.I appreciate if you aviod editting a subject you don't know much about.

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Please don't assume that I've elected not to respond. I have a busy life outside Knowledge (XXG), so you'll forgive me for not responding instantaneously. To your message, I've been trying to think about where I may have gotten the idea that you'd been warned many times. I can only assume that since

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I edited the section regarding violation of civil rights and made sure everything is factual there. All the claims are ture and facts and are part of the EEOC law suit. I am not sure what purpos is served when you or someone "highlights" the word "July"?!! What is that supposed to mean? People should

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While length in and of itself wasn't too much of an issue, I thought the problem was in the trivial details stuffed in the intro ("trivial" may not be the right word, but when one considers Delay's entire life/work, they didn't quite seem fitting for the introduction). I see that work has been done

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There are delicate facts and subtlties concerning this post that you are not aware of and by editting my post you oevrride them. Just to give you a simple example, altough there are a couple of articles written by National Iranian American Council (NIAC), only one of them mentions the letter by Arab

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The film implies that Allied Forces, and the fictional Nicholson character in particular, collaborated with the Japanese merely to maintain their morale. In reality they were merely slave labourers; many were simply bayoneted if they did not comply, and they had to work to exhaustion despite lack of

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it seems somewhat flexible, and in practice a lot of municipality articles tend to have a broader approach to external links. If a section of the article covers a topic, then a link to some Web page that covers the same topic would be appropriate, I think (so the town Education Department deserves a

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I attended the school in 1998, while Spencer was employed as a teacher there. Here is an article he wrote mentioning the school, and I believe one of my former classmates has a school picture that includes Spencer. I will try to find the photo and see if it can be used as a source The article is at

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Another one that is mind boggling, is that you have twice removed the link to the Barrow Arctic Science Constorium homepage and replaced it with an (invalid) URL to their subpage about Barrow, which actually *is* inappropriate as an external link! There is very good reason to provide a link to the

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Following managers Yonathan Epelbaum, James Gatheral and Kishor Laud are implicated in the law suit by Federal governmnet. Their identity is pertinent to the story. When US Government files a law suit against a public company public has the right to know the details of the case. That is why I think

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Please comment on the article page itself in a few moments, if you think it's still not notable, you can nominate it for deletetion. It was a big deal when it happened in the US because an illegal immigrant was the killer. This dispute of notability happens a lot, and the usual agreement is to make

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I've reverted your edit. Editors have already reached a consensus on the links for that article. The aim of Knowledge (XXG) is not to include every link that residents of a town could use. Many are irrelevant and are considered spam. Please do not revert them any more, if you do, I will contact an

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First of all I didn't write the section, I merely changed the sources. I'd like to know exactly what your issue is with the sources (NYTimes, Fox, NY Sun, Dallas Morning News, etc.), perhaps you haven't looked at them again and are just assuming the NEFA ones are still the sole sources for much of

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Fair enough I'll strike the assumption that you elected not to respond. What you have written is mostly original research, and yes many of the sources you are using are indeed unreliable on this subject, including NEFA, unless it is being used to source the opinion it is promoting and is properly

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Since I can't find the many instances in which I've received such warnings I'm a bit confused. Can you provide diffs and/or perhaps an explanation here? Please help me understand. My confusion also comes from the fact that I have never run across you before as far as I know. In this particular

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Virtually all of the other links you remove are, like those above, there for a very specific reason. They are what people researching Barrow need to know about. You may not know what UIC is, etc etc, but that is why the links exist... so that others, such as yourself, can learn about what makes

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I've reverted your addition of the spam tag to the external links section of the article because that particular template is for the user talk page only. As far as I can tell none of the links there are spam and all seem to be have been added by legitimate editors. Maybe you were planning to paste

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As readings of both the articles show, the teachings of Creflo are identical to Arius' ideology, which is obviously considered heresy by the church writ large (as noted and cited in the article). I took off the CN tag because that, and because a simple Google search of the two names will find many

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You weren't discussing any constructive ways to improve the article, and came to vent about someone you see as an "Ignorance-peddler" (a label you used 4 times in your relatively short post). The talk pages are not general forums to attack or promote their subjects. Please see the Knowledge (XXG)

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For example, you and a couple others do not like the external link to the commercial web page for the King Eider Hotel. It is, however, the *best* display of local photography available on the web. I have searched far and wide to find the best photography available, and that one site beats the

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That's a great start, nice job. A lot of the language in the later paragraphs of that section read like blatant advertising, so I changed the wordng, and in a couple cases, removed material not in the sources. I placed {{fact}} tags after some sentences which really needed verification, and left

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By your remarks on the FNC discussion page, it is obvious you are a Republican/conservative. Finally, another conservative here who speak his/her mind and stands up to the obviously liberal admins. Thank you. I have had troubles with at least two of the admins who responded to your comment:

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Technically, you did – but you would have never though of it without my false-color image. You uploaded the image 2 minutes before I was about to, so... I believe we should 'both' be part of the nominees? - I suppose that seems fair? Could you respond on my talk page? I'm the same guy – I had a

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normally uses the chess notation line at the top of the article, and it is in hundreds of articles. On the other hand, I can certainly see the reasonableness of putting it right before the moves. However, many of the articles have the moves embedded in the text. I'll check on a source of the

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I agree, actually, but it's hard to tell which of the other countries' subs are used for research/rescue, and which are used for military. Except maybe in the case of N. Korea, which I'm sure doesn't sure the 20 subs they have listed here for rescue/research missions, considering they have not

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Sorry, but the "other Wikipedians" aren't paying attention. The links are going back up shortly – the policy for links on a page are that they be: "This page in a nutshell: Adding external links can be a service to our readers, but they should be kept to a minimum of those that are meritable,

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I am fine with the language that you changed it to; I had just been involved in a little tiff over wanting to change "Some believe that Noah took the dinosaurs on the ark" to "They usually believe that Noah took the dinosaurs on the ark" because the other authors thought the latter was too

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sites harking about Creflo being a "false prophet" and "heretic" similar to Arius. My point is that it's clear enough (if one were to follow the link to the Arius article) that these teachings are considered similar. I hope this clarifies things, perhaps I should have been more specific.-

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they have recently vandalized after that warning was given. The reported user has not yet been blocked because it appears this has not occurred yet. If this user continues to vandalize even after their final warning, please report them to the AIV noticeboard again. Thank you!

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relevant to the context, as the legal term "malice" is worth linking to, as are the types of ethnicity that were allegedly being discriminated against; although the second instance of "Iranian" probably could go without a link. Users who know these things need not click on the

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Unless they're directly related to Lena in some way, I don't think there's a need for them. For example, if Lena spawned a spinoff business that shared some history with the café, then I'd put it down in the "see also" section. As it stands now though, I think it's OK by

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I don't even think the subs should be included at all because they aren't warships. They are either deep sea rescue vehicles or training subs, operated to teach anti-sub warfare. It's like counting Cessnas used for pilot training in our total of "military aircraft".

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There is plenty of material supporting the assertions in the section on historical accuracy, but I have cited just two well respected books. I hope these suffices and help support the fact that the film is an outrageous slur on the behaviour of the Allied Forces. --

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OK, sorry, I missed that. I moved the algebraic notation tag down to that section to make it more noticeable. Also, not to to be picky, but the source used for the moves now redirects to the domain's homepage. I checked it with the internet archive here

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Charges of Malice and recklessness are against Merrill Lynch as a company not just those few individuals. Merrill Lynch is facing tens of millions of dollars in punitive charges. Evidence points to the fact that company tried to cover up the hate crime.

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Will you join me in this Task Force to improve the article. The FA is getting into a shouting match, just short of people pulling out guns. I propose a way to consensus by improving the article so much that people say "wow, that's a good article!"

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There are certain words that have wiki links in that article that seem arbitrary and useless nonetheless. If someone does not know what/who is an Iranian he/she need not consult with Wiki. I think we need to remove those unnecessary links.

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I would like to start implementing the infobox on gymnastics biographies in about a week to give it time to settle in and get the kinks knocked out before the Olympics. Please come by, take a look, and make any changes you think would help.

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page, trying to tone down the language and adding a boatload of references. Can we take off the wikify tag yet? I'm not quite sure what else to do on this one, but don't want to remove the tag because I don't have the experience to do so.

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I do not understand why you continue to try removing valid and useful external links on this web page, particularly when there is clearly opposition and there have been multiple requests for explanations of what you are thinking?

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You removed a request for citation I had made regarding a claimed similarity between Dollar's statement and a historical incident, saying "no cite needed, rule of 3." Could you please explain what you meant by that? Thanks.

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If this section uses the official documents this blog links to, there is no reason to still link to the blog. There is also no reason to assume this blog belongs to this "Majid Borumand", as it doesn't claim that anywhere.

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article, as well as pulling ones from other athlete infoboxes. I tried to be as thorough as possible, but I'm sure that I've left some things out. :) I have put together some samples of how the infobox currently looks at

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different from the original. Even though it's getting a bit late now as people have commented and voted on the 'alt', I'd be inclined to withdraw 'your' alt image from that nomination, and nominate separately. Good luck,

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Sorry, but it looks like other Wikipedians agreed with me. Links that are "relevant to it's residents", don't automatically qualify for inclusion on a Knowledge (XXG) article. I think the current ones are much more

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providing further confusion regarding your claim that my reversion was "w/o discussion". I would really appreciate some sort of explanation here as to why you left me this message and what you meant by it.

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You keep referring back to the words "reckless, intentional, and malice", yet I kept both "malice" and "reckless disregard" (the actual terms used) in the article and sourced them directly--unlike the first

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BASC homepage. There is no point at all in linking only to the BASC webpage's description of Barrow (that's what the wikipedia page on Barrow is for, and the BASC "about Barrow" page adds nothing useful).

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Thanks. I like the changes you made, too. I'll come back to this (maybe other sections) when I have more time. Also will look for citations to some of the facts you called out that need verification.

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article is a place to record the death of notable individuals. It is not a place to record notable events or legal cases. The AfD determined that Timoshenko is not notable, so his name is not recorded in

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For your little words on my talk page. I use that account to make small changes (mainly inserting my pictures into articles ;) ). I spend most of my time on Commons since I only contribute with photos.

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Think twice before you start leaving accusations about someone's behavior on the Wiki. If you are not prepared to substantiate them then all you've done is provide evidence of your own poor behavior.

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I think the template you are looking for is linkfarm (with double curly brackets added either side). But I generally find that it's better to spend the time purging the links rather than using the tag.

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True, as if there's a silent majority somewhere that refuse to acknowledge fossil-built re-creations of dinosaurs standing in museums. I welcome it if there's a source, but I don't see one coming...--

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article, I converted a long list of links on community groups into a section listing and describing community groups, with each one footnoted. That might be part of a solution here. Why not try for a

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and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing!

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You were clearly editing as I was working on the article. Knowing this, I contacted you so you would be aware of my changes ASAP. So, while your concern is appreciated, I suggest you see

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There is no reason this section should have SIX embedded links when its other links are in the more proper footnote format. I have left the word "ordered" as an imbedded link to suit you.

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This comment was posted by the sock of a banned user, attempting to evade his ban, just so you know. I'd strike or remove it, but thought I'd leave that for you to do since you've seen it.

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mainstream news sources and are only there to provide a link to the document in question. The sentences would still have appropriate citations even if the NEFA sources were removed.—

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Nice job! Feel free to remove tags anywhere when you think it's appropriate to do so! I've made some more improvements, but it looks good as far as sources/links/neutrality. Thanks.-

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article. While it is somewhat more detailed and longer than other intros, it meets the standards on length and content (albeit on the upper-end of normal) as I rd them in

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Accusations about personal behavior that lack evidence. Serious accusations require serious evidence. Evidence often takes the form of diffs and links presented on wiki.

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I left your style mostly intact. I just need to hyperlink to Dr. Borumand's blog. I am going to add that plus name of some managers mentioned in the law suit.

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Thx for the reply. I'm new to wikipedia..and trying to learn the rules and navigation. Also, thx for adding the ex-members back. I'm number two on the list.

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rest, even if it is a commercial site. (And no I do *not* recommend that hotel as a place to stay. It is the last one on the list if you ask for a pointer.)

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You should know better than to label another editor's work as "irresponsible" and "stupid". Just address the arguments presented and leave out the insults.

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I will leave you with this quote regarding one of the many things which may constitute a "personal attack," taken directly from the relevant policy –

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click on July to get what? To realize that is a month of the year!!!!!!! I consider those acts as a distraction from the main facts of the article.

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food and medicine. The film implies assisting the Japanese when they did all they could to do the complete opposite. The real Senior Allied Officer,

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incident I reverted twice, along with at least one other editor of like mind about the newly added material. Another essay that is helpful here:

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I noticed you edited Big Tent Revival's Page recently. It appears that you deleted the "Ex-Members" Section. If you did intentionally, how come?

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I have to say I agree with the comments made at the nomination page. I really think you should have put it up as a separate nom seeing as it's

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I did not "replace on article of NIAC by another." As you can clearly see in the edit history, I had the exact same one you originally pasted.

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as a featured article candidate following a day of editing. I know you've helped out a lot in the article, so I'd appreciate your input at the

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The very problem with your approach to this issue becomes clear when you write, "The last version of the post is very conservatively written

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page). -- The links are a service to people who live in town, are considering moving to the town, or just want to know more about the town. -

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This article was promoted in 2004, when the FA-criteria were much lower. If you don't agree with the FA-status, you could always ask for a

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It is also uncalled for to add false statements in order to further your point of view, such as what you wrote regarding this being the "

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I saw the ban. I don't care for editing Hillary's article all that much. The attempt is kind of comical though, thanks for the heads up.-

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Far too much leeway for someone who's been warned 9 times, but understood. I'm upgrading a duplicate warning to make the message clear.—

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Thanks for your message. I did my best to update and add to the page. You did an excellent job with the page, and it looks real good.

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Please stop being hysterical and accusing others of being part of some conspiracy. Regarding the blog: This is from Knowledge (XXG)'s

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If you want a detailed description of the value of any one of those specific links, please ask. But please to do NOT remove them.

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article. Tried to add lots of independent sources. Removed unsourced tag, but wanted to call it to your attention. Is it okay?

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At the top of the article (and most others that have chess moves), there is a line that says that the chess moves are given in

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had his case overturned by the Iraqi courts and was ordered released, although the US military says they will not release him.

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Again, the purpose of article talk pages is to allow other users to participate in discussions. Please make future comments

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Knowledge (XXG):No original research/Noticeboard#Is making the case for critics in a criticism section original research?

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Oops, I didn't even see this comment! There must have been an edit right after yours. I'll head over to McKinsey now...-

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link). Many links could go into footnotes, which is not as easy for the reader, but is obviously within policy. for the

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Did you read my edits? I left your wording largely intact, conformed the formatting to Knowledge (XXG) guidelines, and

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On second thought, you are correct, SPAC does not belong there. Should other coffee houses in NY state be listed?

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Just wanted to let you know I've uploaded a ton of images to the Commons of the Dartmouth campus. See the note at

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Who is this DMCER ? Who gives you the right to over write this section? Are you affiliated with Merrill Lynch?

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I basically undid your edit to the external links – many of them are relevant to the town and it's residents.

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I *almost* put it there, but didn't, just because nobody else seems to be doing it. I'll start now, thanks.-

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attributed as such. I have posted on the appropriate noticeboard for input on the OR issues. Please see.

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sources, which I have included, are always more appropriate than a questionable blog with just one post.--

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Under what pretext can you describe the factual information that I posted on 9 Nov 2009 as a "rant"?

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others (that still should have them, but that I know are accurate) alone. Feel free to keep adding!-

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the EEOC has filed a lawsuit on behalf of the individual, despite hundreds of previous lawsuits "

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Barrow tick. For someone visiting, either for business or pleasure, those links are essential.

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Thought the edit sequence looked odd, after browsing the untranslated document, I'll leave it.—

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to revert, warn, and report vandalism. However, administrators are generally only able to

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the template somewhere else and got stung by a bit of browser session management. Cheers

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to shorten it though, and it looks good to me. Thanks for the comments on the talk page.—

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All red links are deleted in the month following the death, same as Timoshenko's entry.

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That's fine, as long as there's a source. What do you mean by the "slur" comment?---

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for the barnstar! We'll see how low my GPA dips this term :) Good luck on finals.

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on August 10, 2007. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at

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on the talk page of the user, whose edit(s) you have reverted." (Emphasis mine.)—

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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the

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as this should not be a personal issue. I'm copying this thread there as well.--

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I hope you both will consider ways you might reach a compromise. As I look over

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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the

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If you are not familiar with this essay I think you may find it informative --

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on June 9, 2008. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at

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User has been warned many times about removing sourced content w/o discussion.

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the paragraph. Again, the 2 NEFA sources I've left in place are listed

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needs votes on whether or not it should be kept on Knowledge (XXG).

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Oh, sweet! I still listen to BTR's early tracks. Good old days....—

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Thanks for clarifying. I agree with your sentiments, just checking.

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You have your answer now regarding FNC, hope you like it. :)

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Thanks for adding the alternative image of a true-color shot!

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You put an "unclear" tag on the chess game in the article

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it should be mentioned within the text of that segment.

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hello DMCer :) I noticed ur "info too long" tag on the

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The hyperlinking style you're using should be avoided:

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I was hoping I could get some input from you, about

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