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367:), Thank you for your many recent constructive edits to this page. I have responded to your earlier edits and accompanying well-considered and very reasonable points with a full reply and apology to you and another editor on my Talk page. You are more than welcome to respond to the reply I gave you there. However, I must say that I disagree with your edit today in which you have deleted all the country links, and consequently I have reverted that deletion. The reason is that Knowledge (XXG) editorial guidelines require only the FIRST link for each country/territory to be made, not for every mention of a country to be linked again. Consequently, only one link for each country/territory in the right hand column was made. All such links had already been made, prior to your edit, and so they have been brought back. Incidentally, I do agree with you that it is not necessary to describe Hong Kong as an S.A.R. of China in each labelling, so I have retained your edits on that, too. Also, as Hong Kong and Switzerland were more important to the production of the film 433:" template in the dates. That way, when someone uses autosort through "Year(s)", the shows will be listed in chronological order. I noticed that without it, using 2010 again, shows that premiered during that year are seperated into two sections: 1) shows that only aired during 2010, and 2) shows that continued past 2010; and they also go using alphabetical order. I guess I'm just curious, what's your take on the whole thing? 305: 146: 1512: 1424: 1336: 1248: 1206: 371:(2009) than was China, I've placed them in order of importance to the overall production process - notwithstanding the fact that Lu Yulai, one of the film's two most important actors and its scriptwriter, is a Chinese national. Hope all the above points are clear, and that you concur! Thanks again and all the best to you —- 799:
Hmm, I just reread my first comment. The drama list goes all the way back to the 70s and still hasn't been split. But it's also about a specific kind of television programming. If we use that way of thinking... aren't anime considered separate from cartoons / western animation? Now that I think about
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Reasons for the suggestion above: 1) it seems reasonable to show that information, since the rows are ordered that way, 2) to make it clear that this is the order intended (because some people might wonder: "why are the rows ordered this way? is it a random mess? or is there some logic to it?") 3) to
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I guess if we want to split them by decade(s), it would probably be 1960-1999 and 2000-2009. Because if it ends at 2010, then we're entering a new decade. But yeah, thinking more on it, I would say it's might be preferable to split them by Japanese vs. non-Japanese series (and can I just say, wow, I
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Hi Daniel. I already wrote this on the talk page but I just wanted to reiterate my statement. Your ideas definitely seem preferable. Even if we separate the page by medium, we will still have around 100+ series left with LGBT characters. Separating them by century is a possibility. But to be honest,
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I didn't revert you right away because I like what you're doing combining the lists because it gives me less to watch, but this inclusion feels like synthesis to me. I don't think there are any reliable sources that confirm that statement, and her behavior in the series contradicts it. I suspect the
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To be completely honest, I'm not that hard-pressed on the whole thing, but I think it'd be better if the animated series were seperated by decade. If anything else, because there are just too many examples. Splitting them into four sections by decade would make it easier for readers to navigate it
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Plus, I'd like to repeat that my preference is for splitting between Japanese and non-Japanese, because of the quantity of Japanese works listed there. The worldwide total is 367 animated series, 284 (77.4%) of which are Japanese, so this already basically looks like a list of Japanese animated
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easier. I also wanted to inform you, I noticed that while the series are grouped together based on year in chronological order, shows within the same "cluster" don't actually take premiere date into consideration. I fixed that for shows that premiered in 2010 and plan on doing so with the other
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and so on. Splitting them by country of origin is definitely more objective, unlike drama where we have some overlap between lists and shows. Is there like a group or something we can bring this discussion to? As to whether we should split them by year or country?
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I previously suggested creating Japanese / non-Japanese lists. Expanding on that thought, there are 66 animated series from USA in the LGBT list already. At some point, I'd like to suggest creating a separate USA-specific page like
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I did consider adding in the premiere dates but I wasn't sure whether that'd be a good idea or not. But yeah, that would definately clarify things even more. I'll do it. As for the dashes, I believe the second one is better.
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and for editors to make changes. And considering that the stake of the list isn't that good—like really, "rumored gay"?—and lacking citations for many of the examples listed, editors could use all the help they can get. --
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I'm not sure this should be included. It kinda falls in that "one-off" zone where it's used mostly for a joke and not for a long lasting character or plot element. Rather that just revert I thought I'd talk to you first.
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I understand. I removed Haruhi from the list per what you said. I'll let you know if I think I can find any reliable sources in the future to readd it. Thank you for saying that you liked what I did, combining the lists.
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intention of that line was to mean she wasn't interested in normal humans, not that she didn't want to date them. If you find a reliable source though, I could be convinced to accept it. What do you say? --
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It's alright, thanks for letting me know. I think ordering the rows by their premiere date was a good idea. It was also a good idea using that template to list shows in chronological order using autosort
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dates all the way back to the 1970s, and it still hasn't been split. And if we do split them by century, because otherwise they'd be too large, shouldn't we do it by decade instead? Similarly to
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However, I think we probably can't fit everything into either "anime" or "cartoon". For instance, it may be controversial to use either word for some Chinese animated series, like
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Here in Knowledge (XXG), the common practice seems using "anime" as a shorthand for "Japanese animation", even when it deviates from usual anime style such as
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I get your point, there really is a tendency for that list to grow as you said. I guess we can't just split by century for the reasons you mentioned.
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Maybe we should avoid using the word "cartoon" altogether in the article titles discussed, which may arguably evoke a "wacky", humorous style like
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can't believe you did the math). I mean, when it comes to live-action TV shows with LGBT characters, we do have them split by genre, such as
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Oh, I don't have a problem or anything at all. I know that Korra and Asami are bisexual. It was both confirmed by the creators and shown in
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We probably can't just split by decade either, because the 20th century lists per decade would be too small. The current results would be:
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I still have some reservations because multiple "obstacles" appear. For one thing, should we even separate them by decade. I mean, the
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From what I see, "animated series" is the standard term to use around here in categories and lists for most countries. (as in
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Why removing Japan from the country cell in the infobox? There's one thing you misunderstood from the end credits of
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Hi. Thank you for your recent edits. Knowledge (XXG) appreciates your help. We noticed though that when you edited
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I removed the "rumored to be gay" character. I created a new discussion there, feel free to comment if you want:
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it, splitting them by anime vs cartoons continually seems more and more preferable. It could be split into
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The logical conclusion would be eventually creating pages for various countries if possible like
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and so on as needed. (it doesn't have to be these dates exactly, this is just a suggestion)
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If you are looking for other places to discuss this, maybe some WikiProjects listed in
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Maybe the full premiere date for all works should be shown on the table. For example,
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in Europe and Australia). After pre-production and before post-production,
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fix mistakes easier if any row is added at the wrong place in the future.
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Thanks, good luck with it, hopefully it'll be ready for mainspace soon.
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I think the word "anime" is fine. I'm OK with using a page title like
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I'm aware of the anime style, but Western works using that style (
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Thank you for seperating them based on decade. It makes editing
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OK, I agree with you. That seems like a good idea to me. --
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Tarage
talk
08:25, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
Daniel Carrero
talk
16:04, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
List of animation and graphic art works with LGBT characters
Maria
FAQ
DPL WikiProject
opt-out instructions
DPL bot
talk
09:54, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
Tarage
talk
23:59, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
Daniel Carrero
talk
22:19, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
administrator
Daniel Carrero
block log
active blocks
global blocks
contribs
deleted contribs
filter log
creation log

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