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the feeling that it bothers to other Rodolfo Valentin competitors which are other hairdressers (that they don’t understand that those names are listed as a reference of “who Rodolfo Valentin is”), they are not listed with “advertisement” intentions, most of that people named has an article in wikipedia and they are linked because they are related to Rodolfo in the real life!. Also, in wikipedia it is not possible to write an article about somebody who is nobody (right?)…Rodolfo Valentin is the creator of the first hair prosthesis in the world in 1973. (The explanation about it is showing in the “discussion” page in his other article named “Sofia’s hair for health”), an organization that he created in memory of his mother SOFIA giving free hair prosthesis for people who cannot afford to spend the $ 4,500 us dollars value. As I said above, all those good values of Rodolfo bothers to the others hairdressers, and I am sure that they or their associates created most of the “spasm” in his article, and some of the changes and removals. For example, in his article was also a picture of Rodolfo with the Princess Yasmin Aga Khan, (a picture that I took myself with my camera) when I was at the Princess gala in memory of her mother the famous actress “Rita Hayward”. Somebody came and with the excuse of saying that it was copyrighted and “removed” the picture completely! It is unfair; I still have the picture in my camera!! (Again: I feel that Rodolfo’s competitors removed it because it bothers them his high level reached in his career and the people that is related to him!). Now: they are questioning about the other picture that shows Rodolfo with Mrs.Catsimatidis (a New York socialite) with Ms. Milos, a famous greek actress that also has an article in wikipedia. Myself have also done this picture. I offered to them to send a signed statement by Mrs. Catsimatidis and Ms. Milos if necessary to proof it! Rodolfo Valentin is also the creator of his trademarked “Hair Infusion”, a damage free hair extensions technique that everybody is talking about. The editor of the Sunday Times of the UK, travels from London just to have it every three months! The following link is to her article where she is talking about in her page she mention Rodolfo at the beginning of the page and also scroll done because in the second page she continues talking about Rodolfo in the one named “My new best friend”… Her link is:
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cranial prosthesis which I think for all of us, we have individual stories which can illustrate how it has turned our lives around, and as a result of her affliction Martha has become a distributor of these cranial prosthesis which are from Australia. Martha's statement goes as follows: People often think as hairpieces as purely cosmetic. First of all there are hairpieces and there are cranial prosthesis. The product being discussed here is considered a prosthesis and for two reasons. The first reason is only one person can wear it because it is made from a plaster mold of the totally bare scalp. Because the fit is so exact, a tight suction is caused keeping the prosthesis from falling off or being pulled off. it works the way a contact lens does in that it adheres to the scalp because of its exact duplication of the scalp configuration. The second reason is because this prosthesis can only suction only to where there is absolutely no hair on the scalp, it is not covering any body hair, which is a body part, but rather it is replacing that body part. In June of 1990, the Department of Revenue Services made a ruling number 90-53 which gave this cranial prosthesis tax
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portion that shows the important people related to Rodolfo. a picture of Rodolfo with Mrs.Catsimatidis and Ms.Milos that was taken by myself! ( probably I don't know how to inform that the picture was taken by myself when I loaded?).. Then, there was a part call: HAIR INFUSION. That is Rodolfo's last invention about a hair extensions technique. It has been trademarked by Rodolfo. If you visit the Us trademark office and search in trademarks, it will clearly show RODOLFO VALENTIN. Also, just typing HAIR INFUSION in any search on the internet, google, yahoo, it is very easy to find that rodolfo is the creator of that technique. IT ALSO HAS BEEN REMOVED by somebody using the name WALKER42. He vandalized the article several times and nobody helps me about it. It is there somebody in WIKIPEDIA that takes final decisions?. I can even call it "malicious". I have added in the discussion page of Rodolfo Valentin file, a external source to verification of each statement. WALKER42 cameback and make notes to it look not credible?..why? Can you please help me to restore the article as it was before? thank you!- justice all the way
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her to use the picture for anything I want.( i will try to learn the steps), but anyway, after all the menaces I had from many editors I don't know if I feel to continue. I am not the only one, a lot of people are talking about the abuse they receive in WP, and they are also saying how WP has changed since started as a result of the people that are joining. I hope it does not lose the initial purpose for what it was created and people exchange points of view with respect and not with "rude authority". Dorvaq: because I have the feeling that everything I do will be deleted (even if I do the right thing). I will like if you help me to add the paragraph you mentioned about “the hair infusion”. As you wrote: “don't see a problem keeping the following portion”. Hair infusion Hair infusion is a trademarked procedure of Rodolfo Valentin, created to add length, volume and color to the hair. Synthetic or real human hair is used in the hair infusion process. Perhaps we could add within the paragraph how it relates or is similar to hair prosthesis and/or hair extensions. — Dorvaq (talk) 13:19, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
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wikipedia, because I (unlike some others) realize that this is a pretend world, where people easily manipulate who they really are; any "brownie points" I may accumulate by acting out of character don't mean squat in the grand scheme of things. For example, in the guise of "following the rules", a douchebag in the real world can regularly get his jollies out of frustrating genuinely constructive editors. But how does he come off in this pretend world? As a constructive member of the pretend society. Of course, no one will ever look for the motive behind his actions - what prompts someone to spend hours and hours combing wikipedia with no apparent benefit to themselves. When you step back and look at it rationally, I think it's easy to find a motive for their actions, and judge their maturity accordingly
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question is indeed the subject's own. Seraphimblade Talk to me 21:22, 25 April 2007 (UTC) (Edit conflict.) The last edit from the user in question – Walker42 – was on 2007-04-18; unless there are new incidents, I am uncertain why this would be an issue. In any event, if you ever start edit warring, you can always go to WP:3RR. As for the external link, I went to check the site in question. I am afraid that it might not qualify under WP:EL. Please review the guidelines for acceptable external links. --Aarktica 21:30, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
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gang, and so you get polar thought processes forming on what should be a spectrum. That's the basis of political parties. You force people into certain cohorts, and whether they're 100% conservative or 51% conservative, they are only exposed to conservative POV in their political meetings. Those that are 51% eventually agree with the conservative POV (as that's all they're exposed to), and eventually become 100% conservative. Then they do things like fight against abortion, even though they may not really care either way. Just something to think about - see
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similar points of views in ongoing discussions isn't going to get you very far. One can only speculate that your subtle threat towards RG was meant to inform him you would be taking steps towards having disciplinary measures and/or sanctions imposed on him and possibly Ccwaters as well for their actions... it won't happen. You may be comfortable with how your disruption reflects on your maturity level, but I can tell you that if you continue at your current maturity level, you will not gain the support of those who have the power to impose such actions.
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also failed to answer a question, and that is how you seem to find yourself as a representative, speaker, and/or guardian? If you are not a resident, not affiliated with the city, or otherwise have no first-hand knowledge, I fail to see (1) your interest in the matter (why do you care?); and (2) how you feel that you can understand exactly how residents and employees feel about the way the community was protrayed (in a negative light). Please feel free to contact me if you wish to discuss this matter.
1041:"A gang of editors seeking to improve Knowledge, and a gang of editors seeking to disrupt Knowledge". If you checked my edit history, you'd notice I don't provoke, I react (to harrasment). Also, I think you're mistaken about which "gang" I belong to. I am open to finding amicable solutions to problems, but (often) become agitated by agitators (Wikinazis, if you will). For an example of my constructive nature, please refer to the talk page on 31: 1302:
end it will show you both names. Also if you click on the "TAR" tab, and then click on "specimens", it will show you the picture of the box of the hair infusion showing the hair infusion inside and the label showing: THE HAIR INFUSION by RODOLFO VALENTIN, exclusive technique. Also: in the first page of the Hair infusion website, it is showing the same picture than is in the trademark office.
1113:"You just proved your own quite accurate point; that many editors watch talk pages and keep an eye out for vandals or other idjits. I've had vandalism on my page reverted by editors with whom I've never had any interactions. Myself, I watch ten other user pages, and it's been more in the past, but when I was approaching 600 pages on my watchlist I figured to trim back a bit - RGTraynor" 1007:
neutral and accurate material that cannot be integrated into the Knowledge article due to copyright issues, amount of detail (such as professional athlete statistics, movie or television credits, interview transcripts, or online textbooks) or other reasons. Sites with other meaningful, relevant content that is not suitable for inclusion in an article,
1210:"And, if it's not what you are attempting to do, then I'll ask you again; what *are* you trying to achieve? Are you trying to gain the sympathy and support of other disrupters living the same frustration *that they don't really care about* in order to better push your point across — are you actually telling me that you are trying to form a gang? 1289:. Rodolfo Valentin article ALSO needs the official site external link!. It is also a "primary source" for that article. Specially having that sign on top of the article stating that the article needs "sources"... (You think that in wikipedia are some kind of favoritism?). Please, let me know, I am very interested to know the answer. Best regards! 1064:
eye-to-eye without influencing each other through their need to conform. It's also about your unwillingness to accept that they might just happen to be correct. Instead, your comments suggest that their backing each other up is all part of an elaborate scheme to push their collective point across while disregarding their individual views.
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the end it will show you both names. Also if you click on the "TAR" tab, and then click on "specimens", it will show you the picture of the box of the hair infusion showing the hair infusion inside and the label showing: THE HAIR INFUSION by RODOLFO VALENTIN, exclusive technique. Also: in the first page of the
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hi dorvaq! you are doing a great job in Rodolfo's article!. About the hair infusion, it is owned by his partner and also him.( I call them and asked them on the phone). Once you are in the US trademark page, and after search for "THE HAIR INFUSION" page, in that page click on "TARR STATUS" and at the
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Articles about any organization, person, web site, or other entity should link to the official site if any. An article about a book, a musical score, or some other media should link to a site hosting a copy of the work if none of the "Links normally to be avoided" criteria apply. Sites that contain
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We're here to talk about the continuation of the tax exempt status for medical prosthesis for medical condition known as alopecia ariata. All of us here at this table have this auto-immune disease and as a result of it, we have all lost most of the hair on our bodies. We all wear a
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Can you please add that paragraph?. Also as you mentined that perhaps we could add within how it relates or is similar to hair extensions(yes,it is similar to hair extensions but damage-free since heat and glue are not used in the application). Thank you very much for your understanding again!,l you
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I fail to understand your "lack of information" comment. I believed that you would have been able to find the contact information for the city, however, my invitation to speak still stands. The city telephone is 937.298.2122, simply call and ask for the Director and you will be connected. You have
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Yes, it was my intention to remove a great deal of the content from the Oakwood listing. I do not know if you live in the area, but the information contained therin was incorrect and inflammatory. I am a legal representative of the city, and will remove content on the listing deemed to be offensive
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And, if it's not what you are attempting to do, then I'll ask you again; what *are* you trying to achieve? Are you trying to gain the sympathy and support of other disrupters living the same frustration *that they don't really care about* in order to better push your point across — are you actually
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So why do you continue? Why are we still having this conversation if you care so little about this? Why have you persisted so much if it "don't mean squat in the grand scheme of things". You are trying to sway me into believing that you're the wiser and more mature by not caring about what others
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As I've said, and you've noted, I've only done this recently, out of complete frustration with (and I have yet to find a better term to describe those who use wikipedia to make up for their perceived real-world lack of power) Wikinazis. I'm comfortable with how this reflects on my maturity level on
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Hi again! I did not know that the sources don't have to be from the internet! (what can be?)- from magazines? ( there are a lot), but how we show them as a proof? the following link is to the article of the New York-Daily News newspaper,there are also refencing to Rodolfo as the society hairdresser:
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You really are a great person. thank you for encourage me to continue! Also I found an important external link for the "hair infusion". it is from the New York Magazine, Rodolfo Valentin was selected by that prestigious magazine as the best of 2007 specifically for the hair infusion. In that article
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I plan to, but not right away. Building consensus in Knowledge is just as important as editing itself, especially on contentious issues. The point in question has been deleted by different editors several times. You can't just go and revert something simply because *one* person agrees with you or
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Dorvaq tank you very much for your note about "Rodolfo Valentin" article. I would really like to improve it the best I can!.I though it was a nice article... Can you help me? It is not that I am removing "tags" from other WP ( probably I do and I don't know I am doing it), what happens is that I get
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Following your directions, Rodolfo's name appears under the "Correspondent" section. That in *no* way shows that he owns the trademark. A correspondent and an owner are not necessarily the same person. All reference to the owner is listed as Jorge Maria. Plus, his name appears to be used as the
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I'm comfortable with how this reflects on my maturity level on wikipedia, because I (unlike some others) realize that this is a pretend world, where people easily manipulate who they really are; any "brownie points" I may accumulate by acting out of character don't mean squat in the grand scheme of
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site and about all the incidents with WALKER42 and the following is the response: Generally, linking to an "official site" of the subject of an article is indeed appropriate. We certainly do so for Microsoft and Ebay, so I see no reason not to do so here, so long as it's verifiable that the site in
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I'm afraid neither sources are explicit enough. In order for your source to be verifiable to support a claim, your claim has to be unmistakably clear in that source. Otherwise, your source is irrelevant. In other words, I want to see, "Rodolfo Valentin, selected best of 2007." or something along
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Dorvaq: Hi again!, the link to nymag.com I provided you is already the link to the ny magazine "special 2007 weedings" and that shows the listing for the salons selected in 2007. That is why that when you clicked on rodolfo's name took you to the profile they have about him. Going back to Rodolfo's
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Hi!, you have previously helped me, and now I need your help more than ever. I don't understand why so many people is deleting and changing my article about RODOLFO VALENTIN. You have previously helped me about it. Now, they are deleting big chunks of the article for not reason. They have deleted a
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Secondly, discard your belief that Rodolfo's competitors are the culprits behind the edits you are disputing as I doubt very much that's the case. Regardless, even if it were the case, the edits made were legitimate. If you are truly trying to improve the article, listen to what other editors are
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hi dorvaq! you are doing a great job in Rodolfo's article!. About the hair infusion, it is owned by his partner and also him.( I call them and asked them on the phone). Once you are in the US trademark page, and after search for "THE HAIR INFUSION" page, in that page click on "TARR STATUS" and at
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Lastly, I'm sticking with my friendly warning and pulling out of this conversation. I'll allow you to have the last word, because I know you'll want to have it that way anyway seeing as you care so little about this. I wish you good luck with your endeavour, and please continue in your search for
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No need to be sorry, by all means. As for my gang analogy, I was being sarcastic to make a point; that point being that this is not about ganging up on you because they watch each other's back, it's about your unwillingness to accept the possibility that these two editors might just happen to see
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Sorry, just one more thing I felt compelled to say. People "watching other people's backs", and subsequent "gangs" are absolutely NOT good for wikipedia. In fact, it undermines what wikipedia is all about. People are less likely to voice their own opinions if they feel they have to conform to a
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I really appreciate your help. And you right, I don’t know about adding the tags when I load the pictures. But, believe, the last picture removed by others, showing Rodolfo with Ms.Milos and Mrs.Catsimatidis, it was a picture taken by myself (using Mrs.Catsimatidis camera), and I was authorized by
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If you have something specific you don't understand with the step-by-step guides, let me know and I will do my best to help you. But, I will not rewrite the step-by-step instructions on your talk page when the information is already readily available elsewhere. You have to do your part as well. —
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Lastly (regarding the trademark), a box created (or at least selected) by Rodolfo himself, I presume, indicating that "the Hair Infusion" is his exclusive technique, is not a reliable source to show ownership. That simply means that Rodolfo (or his salons) are the only ones able to use the "Hair
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First off, if you gave me your phone number, then you *did* understand my "lack of information" comment. Also, it's not because you know the phone number of Oakwood's Director of Public Safety that you're necessarily that person. The director holds a public office, and therefore, I would assume
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You know what however, you don't even need to answer as I could careless. The whole point of my intrusion in your discussion with RG was to give you a friendly warning; being, that divulging RG and Ccwaters's not-so-secret, secret of protecting each other's pages against vandals or sharing many
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Secondly, who you really are and who you claim to be is irrelevant. That doesn't give you the right to embark on a mass removal of content mission without explanation regardless of that content's accuracy. Plus, instead of outright removing the content I'm sure you could have simply edited the
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Also: as a proof that “The Hair Infusion” is a Rodolfo invention, please see it in the US trademark website, clearly showing that it has been invented and trademarked by RODOLFO VALENTIN and his partner. Please type in the basic search ‘THE HAIR INFUSION” and see by yourself. The link to the US
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material to make it non-inflammatory and accurate. See what I'm gettting at? You're right. I have no vested interest in the accuracy — or inaccuracy for that matter — of the information found in the article. I'm not a "guardain of misinformation" as you put it. I simply try to respect the
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has explained that the link was "questionable", which I can only speculate as to the nature of his/her *questionable* remark. I think the issue with the website is that the website does not look like Rodolfo's (as an individual) official website but looks more like the official website of his
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Sadly, the vandal isn't breaking policy per se - they haven't used the accounts concurrently; in fact there was a fair few days between uses. Nevertheless, thanks for the heads-up on it - I will stalk these accounts for a couple of days just to make sure and will wield the cluebat where it is
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Hah! You're obviously aware that you didn't ask me, but I figured it was the right thing to do seeing as I am not knowledgeable in the world languages area and I would therefore not be able to give an educated opinion on the matter. Plus, I broke the rules plain and simple, yet I don't mind
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I know that you are very busy, but PLEASE,I really need your knowledge to end this already upsetting situation that is creating a big frustration on me.If the wikipedians don't want me and my articles I will remove them it there is not other choice. ( I don't go around bothering other people
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article, an editor has changed the phrase "the new york society hairsytlist" for a "promminent hairdresser of new york"., the link to the new york society magazine called: "hamptons sheet" attached below proves that Rodolfo has been named by the press as the new york society hairstylist is:
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Justice, the link in question points to a Hair Salons Directory with Rodolfo's offered services summarized. You must also be careful on how you interpret what's written. To me, it does not explicitly state that the "hair-infusion" technique is his. Viewed another way the sentence simply
1125:; insinuating that RG is a hypocrite, labelling the three as Wikinazis; and resorting to vandalism when other editors disagree with you under the victimization ruse, neither reflects positively on *your* maturity level, nor does it lend credibility to your claim of endeavouring to reach 1090:; insinuating that RG is a hypocrite, labelling the three as Wikinazis; and resorting to vandalism when other editors disagree with you under the victimization ruse, neither reflects positively on *your* maturity level, nor does it lend credibility to your claim of endeavouring to reach 953:
Also please not that Walker42 is stating that there is not difference between a wig and a hair prosthesis (when it is a big difference). I've attached the following link from a governament site (cga.state.us) that shows the difference. (When you there, scroll down to find it).
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and/or inaccurate. In the event that the content is reverted to that of inaccurate or offensive, I will begin the legal process with Knowledge to lock the page. Perhaps you should KNOW about a listing before taking it upon your self to be some guardain of misinformation.
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As for your second source, again it's not enough to support a claim that the *Press* has named him a Society Hairstylist. The Press is a very broad term that incorporates many media venues. You've shown me only 1 source, which does not score very well at supporting your
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also has removed by WALKER42 (so, adding up all these events, it takes me back to the believe that this editor is against me) or against Rodolfo, because Helena is also Rodolfo’s client and very often she makes articles about Rodolfo in London (see it in the next link :
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was placed. You have to keep in mind that Knowledge is an encyclopedia. All good encyclopedias cite their sources. You can't assume that everyone will accept your points as true simply because you know they're true. Remember; integrity goes hand-in-hand with
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has been removed from the external links list, while the others mentioned above are having their official site listed,(both delitions in Rodolfo’s have been done by the same two editors WALKER42 and Gwernol), they have shown no mercy with my articles (
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dorvaq: thank you for giving me your time to explain. I am learning from you about WP more than ever. I found a link to add an external source to the phrase: "winner of the haircoloring techniques award and of the Grand design award". the link is:
1081:". In addition, most, if not all, of your last 50 edits consists of vandalism on your part and/or feuding with Ccwaters, Addhoc, and RG to push your point across. Now how is that not being disruptive? — It's the very Wiki-definition of disruption. 999:
dorvaq: I really apreciate your help and interest in to make of this article a Grade A (as it was propssed time ago). No, I only added one link which is "Health & Grooming". I was reading the wp about this, and I think this link applies?
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and also removed the parragraph that shows that Rodolfo was the designer of the first hair prosthesis back in 1973 and deleted it also. But note: "WALKER42" did not touch any other files, only the ones related to Rodolfo"..is not suspicious?
1077:(emphasis added). So just like I can't deny that you've made constructive edits, you can't deny that you have been disruptive. I mean, you've even admitted to being disruptive in your own edit summaries. One particular instance states: " 559:
Lastly, regarding the image deletion, I suspect it had something to do with the copyright information, or lack thereof, found. If you indeed created the image yourself, you still must tag the image with copyright information. Please read
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Why on earth did you remove the prod tag? Did I tell you to remove it? If you had left it there, we could probably have got rid of the article with it. It was well past the first critical hours where new page patrollers are most active. --
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Also, clicking on "Rodolfo Valentin" brings you to his profile page on nymag.com. I can't find anything stating he's been selected as the "best of 2007". Not a very good supportive source in my opinion for your point in question. —
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dorvaq: hi again!. I need you notice what I have found. The editor of name WALKER42, which is the one that deleted and critized everything I did, looks like that editor signed into Knowledge for first time on April 17-2007, took the
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company name of the correspondent and not as Rodolfo himself. For example, if I worked at McDonald's Restaurants and wanted to be corresponded with as a representative of my work, I would list my address in a similar fashion; or:
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What has knowledge of world languages got to do with anything? You don't need to know anything about languages to spot an hoax - just the ability to copy and paste a word from here to Google! No I am talking about the procedural
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Also, you shouldn't let this experience dissuade you from contributing further. Learn from the situation and familiarize yourself with Knowledge guidelines and you'll be editing without feeling persecuted in no time. —
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Doesn't sound like this gang mentality is all in my head. He admits to keeping a lookout for his peeps from "idjits" (I can only assume he meant idiots, but didn't want to be accused of making a personal attack)
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I've pointed you to several sources you can use at your disposal to make your article better, such as finding out more on image tagging and citing your references, but you continually show me you are avoiding the
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Also, I don't deny that you have made some constructive edits in the past. My remark about you being on the disruptive side was meant to reflect your near past edits. This is my sentence from RG's talk page:
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Doesn't sound like this gang mentality is all in my head. He admits to keeping a lookout for his peeps from "idjits" (I can only assume he meant idiots, but didn't want to be accused of making a personal
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and they have the list of their famous clientele intact,(in Rodolfo article the parragraph about his famous clientele in New York has been completely removed!). Also the link to Rodolfo’s “official site”
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are also deleted from his file!. Again, a million thanks for your help to build this article. (when the article is completed,it will be your creation, and I don't mind, I really apreciate your help!)
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those lines written in your source. It could also be a section in your source titled "Best of 2007" with Rodolfo Valentin's name appearing underneath. Your source doesn't provide that information.
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Lastly, you have successfully avoided answering my question about the chart a second time, but I'll ask it again using different words to humour myself. Why did you not remove the content on the
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You are editing the RV article. Rodolfo Valentin is also an actor. Last movie was done in 1999 as noted in The New York Times article- link: It should be included. ( see his discussion page).
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of keeping Knowledge clean and keeping on the right side of the more legally minded editors at the same time. It is fun - join in! (You should have checked - I have put the article to AfD.) --
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doesn't have a problem with what was written in the first place. I opened the point up for discussion and now I'll wait for other editors to respond, which is the wisest means to proceed.
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So let me get this straight; you're denouncing RG and Ccwaters for conforming to a anti-vandalism gang? Again, I'm not sure what your point is or what exactly you are trying to achieve.
530:(← click here to read) that you have been redirected to on numerous occasions. There's plenty of great information found there that can help you in your endeavor to make the article a 114:
doing Knowledge a big favour - please keep up new page patrolling and other quality control. (But if you don't follow the rules, others more fussy than me will start harassing you.) --
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Unfortunately, no. The source is from Rodolfo's website making the claim somewhat biased and therefore, unreliable. A better source would be from the award committee in question. —
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http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:lOA6cMKWcRYJ:helenafrithpowell.com/index.php%3Fs%3Drodolfo%2Bvalentin+helena+frith+powell+rodolfo+valentin&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us
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http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:7eKYPM5F8AsJ:www.hamptonsheet.com/nov2004/bigtopbeauty.htm+new+york+society+hairstylist+rodolfo+valentin&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=13&gl=us
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It is really annoying, because I feel that Wekepedia is being handled by personal points of view and not by reality, and it should be based in the true, and acceptance of the true.
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salons. This can look like advertisement for some people seeing as the article is (or should be) about Rodolfo himself and not his salons. Anyhow, I will not override
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Does that mean that McDonald's Restaurants owns my trademark? Fortunately for me, no, but unfortunately for you, it doesn't show that Rodolfo also owns the trademark.
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I know finding good sources can be very hard, despite the truth of your claim, but keep in mind your sources don't have to be from the internet. As long as they are
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My bad! I should've been more careful while reading the guidelines, but thanks for the heads-up. It's ironic how I thought I was actually doing you a favour. —
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As for the official site link; first off, arguing that X article should have something because Y article has *that something* too, is not a good argument. See:
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Your references can be from any verifiable and reliable source preferably in English, including, but limited to, magazines, books, newspapers, etc. —
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in the same article, it shows that Rodolfo was the creator of the first "cancer wig" that the editor WALKER42 has challenged me so much with that.
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So, I will not add any other link. But I will like to keep this one about "health & grooming" if possible. thanks a million!
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The article you edited was a redirection page not meant for an article. In addition, the content you added was entirely your
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Hi Dorvaq! here is justice again with my comments and seeking your help. I was reading the articles of other hairdressers as
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think of you, yet your actions betray your words, my friend. If you care so little about what others think of you in this "
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telling you and allow them to make the edits. Despite being the creator, you unfortunately do not own the article. (← Read
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replacing it again if you wish, but would that not be asking for trouble? I apologize for all the confusion I'm creating. —
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The anonymous editor you have notified me about has been blocked indefinitely from editing Knowledge for violation of
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don't stop agitating me, I'll keep vandalizing your page Addhoc. This is my new username, and it's this for a reason
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they noted that "it is Rodolfo Valentin technique" ( something that few editors questioned before)- the link is:
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How conveniently lacking information. Regardless, you still haven't answered my question regarding the chart. —
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Since it appears the individual behind this is going to keep creating new accounts to recreate this article, I
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Also on the topic of making the article better, you need to cite your sources; that's why the tag specifying
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You are more than welcome to contact me at city hall. Feel free to contact the Director of Public Safety.
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article, deleted big chuncks of it and then move to the other article I did, related to Rodolfo which is
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Thanks for your comments. I did not mean to remove speedy deletion tag, so thanks for letting me know.
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As you can see, in the picture with Rodolfo is Margo Catsimatidis, wife of the multimillonaire greek
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hi my good friend! I've asked to wikipedia editor assistant for help about to add back the link to
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illustrates that Rodolfo has his own technique when performing the "hair-infusion" procedure.
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Alright, thanks a lot! I wasn't sure what to do but I didn't want to just leave them up.
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before making further contributions in order to avoid a similar situation in the future. —
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Also: Please note that the other article I did about the UK, London’s Sunday Times editor
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make things easier for you the following is the copy of the text on that government site:
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articles, if they are nice, I admire them!). Thank you very much! “Justice all the way”.
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Hair infusion website, it is showing the same picture than is in the trademark office.
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Now another Wikipedian added the following to the article that was not there before:
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in which also deleted and changed things around, and then the other related to it
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There we go, returned the favour, that editor is on the verge of getting blocked.
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I fail to understand how a chart depicting the breakup of Oakwood demographics is
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scroll down the page and you will find Rodolfo Valentin listed. thank you again!
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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the
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I feel better about this disagreement knowing for sure that you're a ********
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I doubt very much that a legal representative would use such means to remove
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Hi why did you discombabulate my page about my friend Max, you've ruined it
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amicable solutions. You make the pretend society of Knowledge proud. —
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set forth by the Knowledge community and ask that others do so as well.
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Thanks, Krellis. I've posted my comment on the discussion page of
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Yeah, but it's still hard not to respond to this kind of crap.
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his/her office contact information is available to that public.
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statements made of a city that he/she alleges to represent.
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My first piece of advice is to take the time to read the
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There's no need to. Just keep doing your great work. —
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to have a better understanding of his/her rationale. —
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yet the section illustrating the very same isn't. —
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http://nymag.com/weddings/listings/hair/index1.html
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Index

User talk:Dorvaq
archive
current talk page
Archive 1
Archive 2
Mumunyu language
RHaworth
22:14, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
Dorvaq
talk
13:11, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
RHaworth
13:26, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
RHaworth
14:59, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
Dorvaq
talk
15:24, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
RHaworth
15:40, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
Max
point of view
Policies and Guidelines
Dorvaq
talk
18:02, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
World War II
Dorvaq
World War II
request for comments

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