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you to change your username to "Drew1988"? No-one instructed you to do anything - I suggested it, that's all. Your attempt to misrepresent this and the pathetic call to arms on your userpage suggests to me you want to make a big issue of this. And this comment you have made: "Everyone should have the
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d)My username is not intended to offend. If that were the case, I would unashamedly say so. Wikipedians 'unknowingly' offend me all the time (you are a prime example), but they have every right to. Bottomline is: I never intended to offend anyone with my
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