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input of a pro, e-mu 0404 soundcard through a technics turntable. Not that it would effect the results, but sample rate was 44.1khz, FFT size was 8192, freq weighting was flat, graphs are over a time range of 3s w/8x time resolution. FFT window was hanning. results were the sum of L+R. A final note regarding the interpretation of graphs, in order to make things clear, the graph tops out at -10db, this means that thick red splotches are basically at peak amplitude, smaller splotches are not as high in amplitude.

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spectrographs of a large number of tracks (around 50), by different artists, The lowest bass in any of them was around the 30hz mark (usually at the end of sweeps etc). No track i measured had a bassline running at below 40hz for the majority of the notes. I've put a few examples below, hopefully you'll recognise a few. Knowledge (XXG) isn't the place for original research, however it is not the place for mistatement of fact based on individual conception either.

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immediately appeared and the music never did have a specific skintone, though it was perhaps most popular early on in ethnically segregated and poor neighbourhoods. This is not the case of rap or jazz which can rightly be claimed to have been created, developed, promoted and enjoyed in its early days almost only by African/Carribean artists and audience. --

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and if the content is proofread/grammatically correct/etc. Recently, however, I am seeing that your edits are often unconstructive, even appearing to vandalize, such as in these articles. There is no need to make derogatory remarks on the subject or directly address users within the article itself. I

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Pop music is hardly appropiate for a rather 'unpoppy' musical style. As far as the music being created predominantly by persons of one skin colour - why does it matter (if true)? A lot, perhaps a majority of early pioneers were African/Caribbean in origin but equally important pioneers of other races

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It is just like synthpop being a precursor to techno. Synthpop is white music whilst Techno is black music. Radio Babylon is dub, it provides typical dub technique (small room/overreverbed room), and the only thing it can be called 'dnb' for is the combination of percusion with k---s-k---s-.. rhythm,

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I hope this clarifies the issue for you, i analyised about 50 tracks, from a wider range of artists than shown here. If there are any tracks you are curious about let me know. All the tracks were came from either CD or Vinyl here (no dodgy mp3s mucking up the results). The vinyl was played into the

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I have made a change, most notably of content being lower than audible (this would be very rare, i didn't find any evidence in over 50 tracks). Took out the high fidelity (don't think its the right term). I am moving dillinja's comment about standard soundsystems to the valve sound system page, I

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Good job for the most part on the drum and bass article, however, I still take some issue with the paragraph i removed some time ago. I haven't had any time to produce any evidence, However i believe that you have a mis-conception as to how low the bass is in drum and bass. I have created

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Quite a lot time's gone since it was asked. Scene dominance is not a thing to white the genre. Read it more carefuly. And, yup, the answer is yes it was created dominantly by black people. And yup, 'Radio Babylon' is not jungle i'm sure one digging it deep ll find a lot of experimental

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I hope you dont mind but I've moved your comment saying "read the archives before discussing jungle vs. dnb" to the top of the talk page. There's one such discussion going on now so it'd probably help if anyone else coming in to participate saw that incase it starts going

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Is Jungle a black music? I mean, you know its roots, can you you say most of its earliest producers are black people? Is MBM's 'Radio Babylon' still dub? The same question goes to DnB genre. In the jungle/dnb articles, this issue isn't focused on enough. Thanks! --

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Black music may be considered a 'racial term', therefore i think you'll enjoy more politcorrect one: 'Pop music genre created predominantly by black people of African/Carribean (may be also Indian) origin'. I asure, no one here wants it to start any racial war. --

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Well, I will be watching it like a hawk. I'm thinking about submitting it to FAC in order to get their recommendations, it would be good to get a list of things that it is needing that we can work on.

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I don't know the roots of Rave, the scene was dominantly white, and the guy who brought acid house to UK was white too. But who started using 45rpm breakbeat over 4-tofloor is enigma to me personally.

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One more argument that MBM's track is sampled in some jungle tracks as a straight shortcut to jungle music roots according to creators of those tracks. But it is quite a pov argument.

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Have a read of the Fontaine book. Rave/hardcore is the origin of jungle/dnb and that was hardly 'black' music. Radio Babylon is widely acknowledged to be the first dnb/jungle tune.

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Fine. I've been fiddling with some tracks and have found some very deep bass, mostly in Dillinja's tracks but there is not much point arguing over this relatively minor point. --

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Thanks. It could be done but it would need a lot of basic editing work (grammar, punctuation, spelling) and perhaps a few changes in the samples. I think they could be improved.

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This one is notable because its about the lowest one i could find, with notes in the 30hz range. They are not as high in amplitude as the main bassline (at 75hz) however.

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