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but after many discussions with other editors about box office sections in articles, I think that any non-verifiable non-referenced data should be removed, otherwise the article may be subject to criticism and many data may be removed anyway). We could find more articles in other secondary sources of box-office analysis, so as to add references for non-referenced data. However, especially for foreign records in specific countries, it will be difficult to fing sources (like Slovenia, Hungary or other smaller countries). What do you think? Since you were the one who asked me to expand the article, I thought of contacting you first. Thank you in advance.

2003: 1926: 828:.) The reason behind picking these two countries is clearly stated above; they were locations were the film was shot and where the film took place in. So for that reason UAE ( which was discussed), Russia, and India were given the spotlight. It is also worth-noting that the other countries also had a "significant improvement" from M:I 3. But as you said you don't want to list, so maybe adding Russia and India isn't a far fetched idea. Thanks for your recognition of the award. I must agree with you 1117: 1879: 2118: 622: 196: 78: 1804: 1731: 2174: 2010: 1933: 1953:. This new project is dedicated to improving the Knowledge coverage of the history, works, people, places, events, etc, that are associated with the cinema, theatre and arts of Africa, African countries, the carribbean, and the diaspora. If you would love to be part of this or you're already contributing in this area, kindly list your name as a participant on the 508: 2243:, we are happy to announce that it will be happening again this year, starting from October 1! In the 2018 edition of the contest, about 600 Knowledge articles were created in at least 8 languages. There were also contributions to Wikidata and Wikimedia commons, which brought the total number of wikimedia pages created during the contest to over 1,000. 2134:. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Knowledge. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Knowledge (see 640:. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Knowledge. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Knowledge (see 214:. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Knowledge. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Knowledge (see 96:. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Knowledge. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Knowledge (see 1292:

I still think it needs another 150-200 word reduction, I just can't remove that much information as the whole section would lose continuity. Some parts even refer to other sections of the article notably the web-shotter design pic--I liked that connection from one section to another; it indicates continuity and logical thought.

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doesn't specify that cast members should be part of the plot — that would be redundant, given the Cast section that immediately follows — and it doesn't mention cast members among the limited exceptions to the 400-700 word-count: "The summary should not exceed the range unless the film's structure is

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OK. Good start. So we're saying that what's notable is that it made more on its opening weekend in these two countries than the previous film did. Are these the only two countries where that happened? If it happened in other countries, we need to make clear why we're singling out these two. (My guess

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Well I do remember you removing what was on the filming section about what a particular guy saying what the budget is. Tenebrae put that there because it's not reliable enough for the infobox but needed to be put somewhere. Personally it might could be put as a note just like the notes you would see

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Yeah sure...I purposefully left it short as some editors find an excessively detailed box office section beyond the requirements of Knowledge. I will contact a friend and we can both work on it. By the way, I tried my best to reduce the Viral Campaign Section--removed 500 words to be exact. Although

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Hey thanks. I will see what I can do with that. On another note I am just curious on what the limit is on adding countries outside of North America's gross? Can you add second or third highest opening and what if that turns out outdated. The box office magazine quoted a lot of countries in Asia that

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Hi! I don't know if we should discuss this in the article's talk page, but as with Pirates 4, Toy Story 3, Ice Age 3, etc, I think we should limit HP7-Part 2's box office article only to data that are well referenced, because many of them are original research (most of them are a product of my work,

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Maybe combine those two? "In countries outside the US in which filming took place, its opening weekend gross increased by multiples over the previous installment: In Russia, more than doubling to $ 6.04 million, and in India, quadrupling to $ 4.0 million." (Do we have anything for other countries in

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Of course the box office isn't restricted to North America and major markets such as the UK and Australia; but let's say, the current "panorama of international box office pointing out highlights" delivers the info faster and easier than "detailed pointing out of where/how it broke a record" (it's a

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Hi, Eddy. So what proposed, contextual wording can we come up with to get this information into the box office section. I think, as you note, we should include a phrase to the effect of "In countries in which the movie was filmed, its box office performance increased by multiples over the previous

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I'm working today, unfortunately, and just stopped by to check messages and a couple of pending things after a couple of days off. I'll stop in probably tomorrow and look at the invaluable Box Office Mojo. You make another good point, that the movie was shot partially in those countries (I wasn't

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highest-grossing films of all time spend more space on "Commercial analysis" - why it made so much money - than dumping financial data). I must admit on not having any objections on separate articles for box office records/runs if necessary - after all, several films had their Awards section made

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Cool, but technically you read the plot, I thought you watched it because you are clearly a Spider-Man fan. We do usually add second or third in major markets like Japan, China, Russia. When they become outdated we don't remove them but say "at the time of release"....and then we add that it was

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I added two possible ways of doing it: In countries in which the movie was filmed, its opening weekend gross increased by multiples over the previous installment: In Russia, for example, it grossed $ 6.04 million which is over twice as much as M.I:3’s debut. In India, however, it opened to $ 4.0

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include some box-office information about countries that are not that of the film's production, but we need to "Determine a consensus from objective (retrospective if possible) sources about how a film performed and why." And, of course, notability guideline are in play: We don't list box-office

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in the Avengers article. Even still it's in the infobox but there was other sources (like the Hollywood Reporter) that had different estimates on the budget making it not the right place to be. I think we need to note the source's estimates. See the talk page of the article for that discussion.

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Actually I haven't...but I am still going to watch that video. I always figured out the post-credit scenes of Marvel movies before I have seen it so it's no big deal to me. I would say that it's probably got a better Peter Parker but I am not sure on the movie being better. I would say it's got

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enough difference on the movie to be entertaining. All the same old is Parker gets bullied by Flash (even though the bully seems more fleshed out), Peter gets bitten and Uncle Ben dies. That had to be in there anyways. If so it would have been unfaithful to the comic's origin.

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After referring to the article again, I realized that it was the opening weekend that increased by multiples. So, I think that "box office performance" should be changed to "opening weekend performance"; "opening weekend gross"; or "debut".

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aware Russia was a real, what they call "practical", location.) So I beginning to see how the wording of this might go in order to give context. Thanks for the fruitful talk, and I'll see you probably tomorrow. With regards,

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were in the top ten but I did not know if they were allowed to be included. I am a little new on taking care of the box office sections and when it's all over I want a just as detailed box office section as

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If the movie was unfaithful to the comic books then the film may actually do worse at the box office, so I think they did there best by changing the suit, tone, and villain to kind of renew the reboot.

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These are the two only countries that we have info on, so I guess that's it. Plus we don't need to cite it again since the same reference was used for the previous sentence. I added it to the section

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Well I was just figuring that Ice Age 4 being ahead in this weekend estimate making the film in second place would be worthy to add. But other than that I would probably agree with you.

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Sorry I didn't notice the other "both". You can word it in you're own words too. I just tried to avoid the apostrophe's. I think they were on that section too much.

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Sorry, I was (and I am) actually on vacation. As soon as I can, I will expand this box office section. However, this will probably be possible after August 13.--

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is the doubling and quadrupling, of course, but did that occur elsewhere as well?) The simplest and best way to take care of this would be if a quote from

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The information which I think is germane to the box office section is the following (taken verbatim from article), "t opened to $ 6.04 million in Russia,

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