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Homeowners Association websites,as they are a legitimate topic that people have questions and need information about. Is any of that problematic for you? if so please advise. Also, a homeowners association website is a type of website, just as a social media site is like Facebook, or myspace, or the are that describes commercial websites etc. It may be unrealistic to include examples of every type of website, but to suggest that a page that goes into detail on a particular type of website is "Wildy off topic" when the page itself has a section called "Types of website" subdivided into categories, makes little sense. Would you not agree with that line of thought? I understand you are trying to do your job and keep advertisers links off, but if in trying to do this you deprive wikipedia readers who seek information of a legitimate source, then everyone loses out.
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After the discussion with fabric tramp, I can see that because the page is branded by a company that is for profit, that raises a flag with some of your editors. that being said, as I discussed with fabric tramp, the menu tabs for various services of that company are being modified, leaving the page
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