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820:, I believe it is totally *ok* to add links to an institutional website if it falls under two areas: 1) It is a webpage or source that improves the Knowledge article and thus it is used as a reference/footnote or 2) It is a webpage or source that maybe does not need to be used as a citation, but, can help improve the reader's interest in a subject matter and it can be used as an external link. Note, in both of these circumstances it must be a link that adds value and isn't generic - it is about or related to the subject being covered in the Knowledge article.
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I have finally got round to adding in the link to the image of tapa cloth. As a footnote it's operating correctly. I'm not so confident of the way I've described it. The author is the person who donated the collection which included the tapa cloth samples. Also, I didn't know how (if at all) to show
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which has currently produced over 2300 article improvements and creations. The
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Wikipedian Project. The body of the text didn't use that word. One key aspect of this project is that we are aiming to understand what such a role (a Wikipedian in Residence) consists of and how it might be/would be incorporated into
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Oceania and Australia like
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The external links are to a library collection that backs up the articles, and they're relevant and useful, so it hardly seems like self-promotion or spamming. But I agree that there's too much use of the journals and letters as primary sources, and I've been emailing with
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Wikiprojects participate in a rating system which they place on an article talk page when they add their "project tag" to it with a
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Hi I've added a reference to an image/information in an online exhibition. I'm unsure about what elements should go in which fields of the Cite:Web form. Partly its tricky because of not being able to copy links which show both image and related text. The edit is on the
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