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after the village had been under heavy shellings from
Ossetian fire. They didn't dare to go on the main road so they had to walk through the forest first and then by car to get around Tskhinvali. But while escaping by car they were shelled by fire from Tskhinvali that they believed came from Russians. One car was hit and two women were killed. This explains why Mikheil Saakashvili asked for ceasefire in the evening, but after no response the Georgian side launched its attack. Another refugee I talked to had actually seen a killed Russian Spetsnaz in that area, which also confirms that Russian troops were there already then. But so far I haven't seen anything of this in any news.
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2886:: unfortunately, it's not only my personal experience, most people here are afraid of applying for visa to Schengen states embassies themselves. Vast majority does it via travel agencies with good connection to people from embassies just b/c they are afraid of not getting a visa/ getting it with a delay. Queues are another problem - I was going to go to Austria for this new year holidays, but I had no chance to - in late November they were
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Ossetia and got to know more information from the war scene, but at that time I couldn't compare it with other information. But from what they told me and what I know now it seems more clear what was leading up to Saakashvili's decision to attack. And by the way that part is missing in the lead. Now it seems like Georgia launched its offensive just out of nowhere.
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spring 2008. German foreign minister's diplomatic failure before war in
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I absolutely beleive the majority of
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Great Talk page
Elysander! Above here FeelSunny writes: "I would prefer both EU and Russia abolish these bureaucratic rules, but that's solely for EU to decide". I don't see why that is solely for the EU to decide, Ukraine abolished it's Visa rules for foreigners years ago... Although you still have
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Unfortunately the rules are not the same in Russia. It's very easy for me to write an invitation for a Russian citizen since I write it myself. In Russia you need to have the invitation checked by the authorities that can take everything from one week to several months. Faster of course if you bribe
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Let it be! Nonsense must be called nonsense. If you are permanently trying to "translate" the simple English word "believe" into "call", "approve" or other words , or to sell us manipulated quotes again and again as direct/verbatim quoting it must be stated officially in an edit summary. And please
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And it was also interesting to see how Russia was treating its real citizens that were visiting Georgia at the time of the war. Because indeed there were many Russian citizens in Georgia during the war, but they were not in South Ossetia, many more were in Tbilisi. And while other countries tried to
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takes several days) just taking the visa application to a EU country embassy yourself. I personally spent 3 days in a queue at Finnish embassy and however, never entered it. I gave in and went to see friends in St.Petersburg instead of visiting Finland last time. Please take into account it was -30
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And it's true it will take some time before we will know for sure what was exactly going on there in early August. Although I was there at the time it sure was very hard to know what was happening. There were so many strange rumours going around, like that Saakashvili had had a heart attack and was
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I would criticize "authonomy" ;-). I am using this talkpage to express personal views and opinions. It is your problem if you are sure you were meant ;) I didn't drop one name. To the topic: once upon a time ... there was a history before and after. BTW .. Preselecting activities provoke similar
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Well, I can say he is known among scholars but as he isn't translated to Swedish for example he is unknown among most people. Hope you had a great time in interesting Bruxelles. I surely had an interesting trip to Tallinn and Estonia. It's really a well-preserved medieval city with lots of common
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is attacking ( for days) a consensus version of article's leader which I try to defend. Therefore IMO my activities belong to the explicitly named exceptions regarding 3RR. Please check leader's history how often Igny did try to force changes against the will of several editors without ( serious)
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I must replace an ill colleague (Virus): I was the only one who could and wanted too. ;) Here: The same ridiculous actions as always but guarded by dubious administrative activities. You know whom I mean. ;) Situation in SowjetRussia must be disastrous in the light of Putinistas' actions on minor
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Sorry for delay! I believe you are a serious editor. But as you can watch over several articles and talk pages "POV warriors" are spreading their POV/OR stuff - often concerted. You only need to check their individual pages to discover their "born" prejudices. And personally i'm always tending to
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Einige Tage nicht online. Ich werde schliesslich "nicht bezahlt" für meine Anwesenheit hier. ;) Findeisen würde sich köstlich amüsieren, was für ein Unsinn unter seinem Rubrum verzapft wird. :)) Russavia bestätigt seinen Ruf als quasi-tibetanischer Alleinunterhalter; er braucht allerdings schon
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Hmm ... would you be so kind and checking your decision? I cannot see any edit warring in this part of article. I did remove completely unsourced subsections which were inserted by one user within the last 1-2 days. The only reliable informations are already available in article's info box. The
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As usual a knowingly misinterpretation by Igny! Because article is a battleground, some regular editors want to keep article's leader leastwise stable: No substantial changes in leader without talk! The only user who is permanently attacking this editors' consensus (talk before change) regarding
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I believe both sides are not ready to open their books. Some European governments especially France & Germany are sure Georgia had walked in the trap Russia had prepared for months. But these governments cannot answer the questions what Georgia should have done regarding the escalation since
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Hi, thanks for the head's-up. It may also still be the case, that personnel from the sunk vessel were not military but classified as border police, and for that reason, not listed. Yeah, a loophole, but a convenient one. Or they never died. :) 5 killed from the Navy seems to indicate no naval
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Mutual rules for getting a visa for EU and Russia are absolutely identical. In case you book a hotel, you surely need no invitation. In case you live in a friend's house, you need an invitation, that's quite reasonable. And of course, I would prefer both EU and Russia abolish these bureaucratic
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Pure nonsense! You did start an edit war on various places in the leader at the same time later supported by some "fellow travellers". And YOU didn't use the talk page. 1) The sentence ( On 7 August) was already a comprise formulation weeks ago. Without any necessity you are trying to push the
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You wrote and I qoute, "A typical debate! One serious incident which will be reduced to a 3-line-sentence few weeks ahead. And still assertions stand against assertions. Is it an "attack" or more an "accident" ?" Can you please explain to me how someone could have accidentally rigged a car with
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before you can give customs that form but that's still way simpler then what the parents of my Crimean friend have to do to get to W-Europe, they have to travel all the way to Kyiv to get a Visa... It would be great if EU would abolish the Visa-rules for Ukrainians and Russian. Does Jörg-Peter
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Can we now declare Russavia, Offliner,Igny and FeelSunny officially as "Putinistas"?? :)) But IMO espec. Offliner did make the SOW article to a RiaNovosti version in many single parts (therefore he did systematically remove the timeline character) which should revert to an appropriate version.
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And by the way I can tell the service is as good or even better in Estonia than it is in Spain or Italy. So there is no problem visiting Estonia. And by the way there still is a huge Soviet war monument in Tallinn to visit, in fact rather close to the ruins of the Swedish Birgitta monastery.
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You were warned above about the continual removal of information without discussion. You may or may not take me seriously, but the wholesale removal of information from articles based upon your own POV, and without discussion is not on, and the next time it occurs, I will seek admin
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help their citizens during the war by evacuating them (I didn't follow the evacuation though) all the Russian embassy said to its citizens were you are on your own, and get yourself out by yourself! In fact the Georgians were treating the visiting Russians there much better.
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BTW, we already went under 40$ , and the things you suggested still didn't happen :) At least Russia does not have a huge national debt like some "efficient" always-stay-withing-EU-budget-deficit-rules Central European countries, which already owe 65% of GDP and counting.
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No, Georgia revoked S. Ossetia's autonomy in 1990, so it is a former autonomous area even by Georgia's contention. However, even if that were not the case, it would be misleading at best to claim a de facto independent state is an autonomous area of another state.
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for early February. It makes three months to just apply. And you can not just "choose another Schengen state" for if you get a Finnish visa and first fly to Germany, they may (or may not) let you in, but later you will have problems with getting a Finnish visa
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Aha, this source features some absolutely essential sacral knowledge needed to understand bolshevism and putinism. If you think you can not recognise it, you surely do not qualify to be a fellow Russia-related articles editor and a party member. Viva KPSS! :))
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Sorry to hear about your bad experience with the Finnish embassy. I mainly know about the Swedish embassy in Moscow and it's surely not difficult to get a visa there. And by the way Swedes have to stand in line outside the Russian embassy in Stockholm also.
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Surely most Russians prefer visiting Tallin (some would say Talinn:)) and Riga to visiting Barcelona and Paris - after all, you can go on a tour to these stars of Baltic for the same sum. And, for example, Bruxelles is no match to Tallin, that's for sure:)
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At my opinion there are so many different political developments the last 20 years nobody can overview the several steps. As i know Georgia did offer in 2008 farreaching autonomy inside the Georgian territory but SO & Abch. did reject this offer.
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For your information my friend lives in the same city as you. And by the way I have visited that city several times also and wouldn't mind going there again but months of work with invitation and visa surely doesn't make it my first choice.
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history with both Sweden and Germany. But guess which is the biggest tourist group there? It's in fact Russians who apparently aren't so afraid to visit eSStonia. In fact I would say Russians are treated very good there.
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Bogorm, opinions are not defamation. And no, he won't be blocked for expressing his opinions on a talk page. The worst that might happen it that they could be deleted if agreed to be excessive and off topic.
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a little nationalist, to say the least. Would you say like "I feel Jews are treated good there"? Why shouldn't they be? Why do you think it's right to speak about treating an ethnos good or bad?
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