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exactly the same kind in the existing article while deleting mine. When I responded with evidence against your baseless allegations of hacking, you just repeated yourself. You aren't arguing, you're just asserting, contradicting and repeating. Opinions and unsupported speculations, no matter how often repeated, do not outweigh actual arguments.
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Sorry for hurting your feelings, NYyankees51. But I did make a solid argument for the content - flexible and polite, too - and you didn't respond to any of it. You just contradicted, with no support, and without acknowledging the self contradiction I pointed out to you in your keeping a reference of
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to work on the issue you are having on the page. His edit was not vandalism however, and I would caution you to be careful what you consider vandalism. To John, that warning was not appropriate, as there wasn't a personal attack made. I am going to remove the warning, as this was inappropriate.
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