User talk:Epicgenius/Archive/2014/Jan

2935:". The northbound platform is stacked under the southbound, as is described in the article. This is not the first time you have made errors like this - you need to read the articles more carefully before adding (or modifying) diagrams. Unlike New York City - which is largely constructed on grids - and simpler or modern systems with obvious layouts, the whole MBTA system is a legacy mismatch of lines constructed around the traffic engineer prank that is Boston. Everything is as it is for completely backwards reasons - try tracing how the Old Colony Lines and the Red Line weave around each other through Quincy and Dorchester and you'll get an understanding of why you can't assume anything. 2740:

downtown transfer stations, two stations (Kenmore and JFK/UMass) where services use different tracks, eight stations (Malden Center, Oak Grove, Porter, Ruggles, Forest Hills, Back Bay, Quincy Center, Braintree) with subway and commuter rail platforms, three (Community College, Sullivan, Wellington) with the third track, and three stations (Ashmont, Silver Line Way, Boylston) with odd arrangements where custom SVG diagrams are probably superior. Besides those at-most-23 stations, every single other MBTA rapid transit station has exactly two stopping tracks and one or two platforms - information which is better and more efficiently communicated in prose form.

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accelerating a lot: they keep their momentum. Do I really need to reference basic physics laws to prove that? That's ridiculous. Also, regarding the noise pollution, it is obvious that vehicles generate more noise when they accelerate than when they're not accelerating. Conclusions based on obvious and commonly admitted facts don't need to be referenced. Unless you reverted my changes for another reason?

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red seemed a good idea because that's what colour the trains are, but Keikyu's corporate colour and station branding is all "DeepSkyBlue" - as can be seen from the official website and corresponding Japanese Knowledge (XXG) articles. And if you have time, you could also change any occurrences of "Keihin Electric Express Railway" (the old name) to "Keikyu" (its new name since 2010). Thanks. --

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were constructed at different times, the Orange Line tunnel twists to fit down the narrow street, the Blue Line was retrofitted for heavy rail in 1924, and there was a big accessibility refit a few years back. Frankly, regardless of correctness, I'm not convinced that a linear diagram is a good choice for State. There are too many levels that aren't level.

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station articles, as many of them are in need of updating and a general cleanup. If you have time and are looking for a job to do, could you go through all the Keikyu station articles and change the line colours from "Red" to "DeepSkyBlue"? Presumably the person who first created the articles thought

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Additionally - and this is a complication that I will concede you couldn't have found out from the article - the fare mezzanines are weirdly placed and there may be one more level from one entrance that another. The arrangement of the station is wholly nonstandard for multiple reasons - the two lines

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By the way, the designations for the levels, "G", "M", and "P" (which I acknowledge are not official descriptions) are descriptive code letters which are used in the first column, in order to prevent the first column from becoming too wide. I will also stop adding platform layouts to the MBTA system,

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Vcohen's templates are designed for use on the New York City Subway, where many stations have numerous tracks and platforms, often with multiple services arriving on every track. Many are also station complexes combining several separate stations. The MBTA has none of that complexity. There are seven

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Your diagrams contain numerous errors and false information, which you need to be more careful about. The MBTA does not publicly use designators like 'G' and 'L1' and 'B2', not do the (modern) plans I have for several show any in-house indication of this. Adding them is obvious original research. The

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No, kid, this time your apology is not, and will not be, accepted. You stuck your nose into something that didn't concern you, you tried hard to get me into trouble, and you were wrong about it to boot, and this is the result of that behavior. You reap what you sow -- if you don't know that by now, I

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You reverted my edit to 'George Strait' without providing a reason. As I said in the comments, I fixed a line to make it provide the same information as the reference article. Did you look at the reference? I think your reversion of the article made it worse by re-inserting incorrect information

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Hello, before mass editing dozens of pages in future, it would be preferable for the problem to be discussed in the Talkpage of a particular page and linking common editors to the discussion. We had agreed in the past to keep "to Changi Airport" on all the pages as it's on every station's signboard,

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Hi there. Hope you're well. It appears we are at odds as to what should go on Trevor's wikipedia! I am a biographer who has been researching Trevor's life and career for some time now with the aim of eventually writing his biography. I have spoken to Trevor directly and can confirm the information I

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HTML is very bad from the point of view of editability. I learned HTML many years ago to create web pages, but since then HTML has become far more complex while tools (including Mediawiki) have become much better, and its rare now for someone to know HTML markup. At best some people know and can use

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Hey Epic, you made a comment at ANI like "Yeah… either semi-protection if it's just these articles being vandalized, or blocking if it's just these IP users who are abusive. Or a combination of these, if it's a whole range of users vandalizing a lot of articles." and put it at both the University of

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That syntax is easy to learn and edit, and familiar to anyone who has used templates before. Generic templates like that are easily adapted to any system, rather than requiring a custom HTML job for each station. Generic templates also mean that a change can be pushed out to every single use of the

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I think your programming idea for the terminal layout template was a great. It inspired me to create a common template for four track local stations, with the hope of just using one template for all local stations instead of having so many templates floating around. It is set up the same way as the

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The character formatting menu on the toolbar will get a drop-down indicator next Thursday. The reference and media items will be the first two listed in the Insert menu. The help menu will get a page listing the keyboard shortcuts. Looking further out, image handling will be improved, including

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is useful for showing which services use which platforms at which times - that takes a whole lot of prose to characterize. Saying in prose that an island platform, or two side platforms, serve a line's two tracks is plenty - the diagram adds no information that is not in the single sentence. There

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If you want to keep diagrams in articles, then you need to make several changes. First, forget the levels - the only potentially useful information is the actual track layout. Second, change them into generic templates that anyone can edit. Third, make them able to fit neatly into a standard 300px

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Hi epicgenius, I'm new and trying to start small, just wondering why you reverted my edit on the Pretty Little Liars (TV series) page when it was just one minor correction to grammar which also made it consistent with the rest of the list - "plays" ... "Is" makes no sense? Any tips on how I should

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Now, once again, you are asked not to ping me in this discussion. Violation of this can be considered to be harassment (see the recent discussion regarding MilesMoney's multiple "thank you" pings to an editor after been asked not to post on their talk page, which got him blocked for 48 hours). In

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to change your behavior, you did not. Stop trying to blame me, and learn from your own mistakes. Stop being condescending toward me and other users, because actions speak louder than words, and your actions don't speak very loudly of who you are. I suggest that you act upon these points instead of

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There is no reason to have the next stop listed in the main text - that is navigational information only. Most British articles put the s-rail templates at the bottom of the article as a separate navbox; US articles have the s-rail moved to the infobox but it is still acting as a navbox, not as a

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very explicitly notes that Knowledge (XXG) is not a travel guide. You have offered no reason why you chose to blatantly disregard consensus - and warnings - against the addition of these templates. That is, frankly, unacceptable behavior. I want to discuss this with you before I get other editors

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I feel that this passage is crucial in order to have a complete understanding of WHY John Ziegler is so ardent in his defense of Joe Paterno. Ziegler's view of Jerry Sandusky, and Sandusky's innocence in relation to these specific charges is a cornerstone of the reasoning for his defense of Joe

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Well, you almost got yourself blocked over the platform layout issue. And if you’re going to choose an ID that suggests that you’re superior and know it all, well then you’ll just have to expect comments once in a while… But I do appreciate that you reconsidered and restored the previous design.

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Your edits have also been messing up formatting in the articles. Several times, without any explanation, you have changed {{reflist|3}} or {{reflist|2}} to {{reflist}} on pages with a number of references; this introduces a great deal of whitespace. User:Reify-tech has spent a great deal of time

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Your diagrams are nearly impossible for other editors to easily work with, because they're raw HTML rather than wikitext. Before you add even one more diagram, you need to learn some template syntax and create a set of generic templates that take parameters. Adding things that are difficult for

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Epicgenius, when you run into edit conflicts on pages like ANI (I assume that you did) the best way to proceed is to open a new window, with a fresh ANI, and re-insert single sections. I don't know if you already did that, but if you didn't, that's probably why you removed my section, which was

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So if you find yourself adding HTML to an article it's almost always better to use a template. If it's something being added across multiple articles then it clearly makes sense to use a template. If it's for only one article then look for an existing template - many exist for creating tables,

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Hi. You recently removed my changes on the Roundabout article. I don't understand why. As stated in the article, vehicles can yield and the vehicles don't always need to do a full stop. It is common sense that if they don't make a full stop, and thus don't need to fully regain their speed by

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Frankly, though, there are so many more useful things to be doing. Knowledge (XXG) is fundamentally an encyclopedia, not a railfan site - thus, what is really needed on station articles is prose. History, future plans, and perhaps the introduction of some higher-quality images as well.

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Thanks for taking a look at it and reverting it. I had the YouTube citation included as it did allow Ziegler to explain his viewpoint, but I understand the reasoning on excluding it as a reference. If I can find a more suitable reference I can add it at a later date. Thanks again.

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Why are you re-adding the sidebar to articles that already have the navbox? And, indeed, since the navbox is much more compresenive, wouldn't it be best for articles that have neither to have the navbox added to them? Could you please undo the re-adds of the sidebar? Thanks

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Your Back Bay template shows that you do not have enough knowledge of the system to add diagrams with any degree of accuracy. Back Bay does not have a below-ground mezzanine; putting it in your template means that you are making unfounded assumptions. More original

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No, I'm just miffed that I took the time to provide some good advice and it was ignored. Sort of a heads up in case the editor claims the edit was checked with an OTRS agent. Yes, it was, but I specifically advised against what was done. So you did the right thing

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Seems like the sentence already has a lot of list items. Although this edit is legitimate, it seems like there are a lot of list items in that sentence already, without this list item making it even longer. If you want, you can add in the list item and the ref.

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infobox. A miniaturized diagram - platform levels only, no listing of the next station (that's what the s-rail templates are for), etc - might actually be useful to add just below the s-rail, so long as you can keep it to about 120x300 px for simple stations.

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No apology necessary--I have found that a new window is the best way. Did you notice that the editor who reverted you stuck your comment back, after I had done that, but in the wrong section, and that this was corrected afterward? Good thing ANI doesn't see

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attitude towards me once again, but each of us is responsible for their own behavior, and yours has resulted in this. Good luck in the future with your editing, I hope you will continue to learn from your mistakes when other editors point them out to you.

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The automated browser tests were adjusted to speed them up and bind more correctly to list items in lists, and updated to a newer version of their ruby dependencies. You can monitor the automated browser tests' results (triggered every twelve hours) live

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You misunderstand my suggestion. Rather than one template per station you should consider making a template usable for stations. If that is unwieldy consider multiple templates which combine to give the desired result, such as the ones that make up

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and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year!

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Note that this 'server count' also includes deleted edits; if an edit is deleted (for instance, the user tagged an article for speedy deletion and the article was subsequently deleted), the server count continues to reflect that edit having been

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others to edit goes against the open-editing model that Knowledge (XXG) is based on; the generic indicators that have become accepted in rail articles are those like the s-rail templates that have been turned into high-quality generic templates.

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hope you'll learn it eventually. So far, you have received very little blowback from your poor behavior here, but that's not going to last forever, so you might want to consider changing your ways in the future. Please don't ping me again.

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Then it's how it's typed when someone wants to write it their native language but only has a US keyboard. Probably happened quite a lot when the first computers appeared, may still be necessary for some people stuck with old OSes/hardware.

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You continue to add incorrect information. Your diagram for State is outright wrong; the Orange line platforms are on the same side of the tracks and are not on the same level. This information is available in the article itself, and on

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to be once again null and void. You are again banned from posting on my talk page, and I will no longer explain to you with specificity why I have reverted your edits when you make errors. I'm sorry you felt it necessary to take this

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and noticed that 3 of my edits have been deleted. Am I wrong in assuming that it has been deleted as I made some mistake? If yes then how do I find out what wrong did I do so that I don't repeat that in future. Please assist. Thanks,

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exists for the template, then a list of possible parameters will appear. If not, you can add parameters yourself by typing the parameter name under "Add parameter". For unnamed parameters, use numbers ("1" for the first unnamed

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Additionally, some stations are not possible to make correctly with rectilinear diagrams, and are going to require custom SVG images no matter what. Government Center, with its triple-sided Green Line platform, is a prime example.

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I apologize for my behavior, as I was pointing out to you what was wrong with your attitude, but it seems that you don't want to hear it. I really hoped to keep that agreement, but if that's what you want to do, it's fine with me.

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I made a small addition to your page regarding calstock viaduct. Basically adding the fact that it was built from concrete blocks. I thought this addition was relevant and would be of interest to anyone reading about the viaduct.

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Yes, as a matter of fact I did (one yesterday or day before) and that explains then. Even before this incident, I had one deleted edit and now it is three, so got worried a bit. Thanks for the guidance.14:36, 21 January 2014

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Once again, you are being rude. Please stop. I follow Knowledge (XXG) guidelines as much as possible, and it seems that many of the faults are with you. And as for the being " taken to task for it by admins and editors you

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third track (#1 on track diagrams) on the north end of the Orange Line has at no point been used as a northbound track in regular service; calling it that on the diagrams is confusing and incorrect. Your track diagram for

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team has worked mostly minor features and fixing bugs. A few significant bugs include working around a bug in CSSJanus that was wrongly flipping images used in some templates in right-to-left (RTL) environments

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in the "Insert" menu has a very basic set of characters. The character inserter is especially important for languages that use Latin and Cyrillic alphabets with unusual characters or frequent diacritics.

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Yeah, so? This implies that the two segments are part of the same line. I'd hardly call my edits "controversial", by the way, since I have gotten into relatively few disputes thus far. Which brings me to

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Did I receive a barnstar from you and never really repaid the favour? Shame on me, really. Maybe you'll accept this shiny barnstar as a token of appreciation for hard work on improving the encyclopedia.

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The Back Bay template is just as useless from an editor standpoint - it still requires editing raw HTML which most editors do not know. A proper system would involve using templates that look something

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but I made the mistake of not using the proper format of Westchester Square, Bronx since it is a neighborhood in the Bronx. Would you be able to redirect the page so it says Westchester Square, Bronx.

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Thanks for the notification. Although, when I read it at first, I didn't realize that it was an attack page, but I did see that the person was not notable, so it would have been deleted anyway.

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Adelaide section and the one below it regarding an IP. I'm pretty sure you only meant it for the Adelaide one, so I removed it from the IP one below it... please correct me if I guessed wrong!

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Tonia Todman's date of birth is published as 1935 on the wiki page for her. Her father has a birth year of 1922 ( I know her father, Mr A Barker). A birth year of 1935 for Tonia is unlikely.

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I have reverted my edit. Anyway, I couldn't provide an edit summary at the time, due to the fact that I was doing multiple reversions at once. My apologies if you have been offended by this.

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timelines, galleries, image maps. Even if none exist it may still be worth creating a template, to improve the editiability of the page and encapsulate the feature for use on other pages.--

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was just plain wrong; you did not even read the existing prose to see what trains use what tracks. Relying on other editors to correct your mistakes is not a good way to go about things.

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the autopatrolled right to your account, as you have created numerous, valid articles. This feature will have no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to reduce the workload on

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The edits that you made had removed the references and most of the content. That is usually not recommended on Knowledge (XXG). In regards to your "family member" statement, please read

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confirms most of the changes and I'm not sure what triggered the claim of vandalism here. The user has made other legitimate edits, including to this article. Am I missing something?

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the case. I'm bringing this to your attention on your talk page first, to give you the opportunity to self-revert, since you've gotten into disputes before over controversial edits.

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write on this page is 100 percent correct. Let me know your thoughts, it would be great to reach a compromise on this to save us both a lot of time! Thank you for reading this.

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Jwpetty1951 isn't a vandal. Just a currently somewhat inept new user who inadvertently stuffed up the formatting on a previous attempt. No doubt will improve with experience.

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I have ceased to work on the MBTA layouts for now. I think that the layout before (prior to my addition of the extra levels) was sufficient, and I'll be restoring it shortly.

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are only a handful of MBTA stations - Park Street, Kenmore, Back Bay, Canton Center, and Providence - where different services on the same trunk line use different tracks.

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In addition to feedback from any interested editor, the developers would particularly like to hear from anyone who speaks any of the 50+ languages listed under Phase 5 at

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Articles which already have the "Ethnicity in NYC" navbox don't need to have the "Ethnicity in NYC" sidebar as well, since the navbox is more extensive then the sidebar.

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Let's not replace all of the existing 4-track templates just yet, as there are a lot more issues to be solved with the template than with the Terminal Stations template.

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a few simple markup tags. So significant HTML in articles makes them uneditable by most editors, and breaks our promise to be the encyclopaedia that "anyone can edit".

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Praajesh. I see you fixed the display, but I counseled for a name change of the image. I also urged asking at the talk page before replacing the main infobox image.--

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Don't be an epic jackass. By tying together the ends of other lines shown on the diagram, you are implying that they run non-stop between the points shown, which is

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the " van 't Wout" Page. This page is about a family, and one of the family members wanted to change the information. Its really necessary to keep it like this :)

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This includes next-stop links. Also, it's a station layout, and preferably should also include levels (but not too many details about them, so as not to violate

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Okay, fair enough. Ill halt my production of this template for now. I might continue to experiment, but will not replace it with any existing template just yet.

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To add templates, go to the "Insert" menu and choose the "Transclusion" (puzzle piece) item. Enter the name of the template and click "Add template". If

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And one more thing: Pi's suggestion for me to remove the next-stop links just because they're already in the infobox is really not practical. According to

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The information should still be present in the main text, partly because it may not be possible for some readers to access the contents of the infobox.

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Thank you very much for the barnstar (my first real barnstar)! If you wanna contact me about anything Knowledge (XXG)-related, drop me a message on my

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My apologies for removing your section. I had an edit conflict and re-pasted my comment, not knowing that you had also edited the page. I'll do that.

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You pinged me again, after I asked you not to. Please don't do that again. As for the other, you have been told quite clearly that I did not violate

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in which you were told not to add them, is extremely worrying. The diagrams take up a great deal of space on the page, yet add nothing of value, and

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at Christopher Dorner might've been a mistake. There was a citation request template in place, and the sentence didn't seem confusing to me. Danke,

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the platform layouts have to be in the form of templates? I will do it, of course, but I need an explanation why the raw HTML isn't sufficient.

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This is getting ridiculous. You did not address what I said in my above comment: "the Orange line platforms are on the same side of the tracks

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I didn't know that "friends with benefits" was slang for "causal sexual relationship". I thought they were two different things. My apologies.

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I think the issue is that you need to add a citation to what you are adding. Otherwise, it will be removed as poorly sourced information.

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That sounds good. I have already created a new template for the layout at Back Bay, and will make more template layouts when I have time.

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Hi. Thank you for your recent edits. Knowledge (XXG) appreciates your help. We noticed though that you've added some links pointing to

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regarding your most recent edit there. Do you speak Vietnamese? I don't, you might be right. And do you speak Icelandic (that uses Ð)?

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Thanks for explaining this to me. At first, the above redirect seemed implausible to me because it was in another script. Guess not.

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I'm assuming that these "deleted" edits have occurred because a page that you had edited was subsequently deleted. According to

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platforms. However, the southbound Nassau Street Line platform seemed to be directly under the street, last time I went there.

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What this is coming down to is that diagrams are only useful when they display information that isn't implied. The diagram at

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for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

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some of the reasons why I think that particular disambiguation may be potentially helpful to Knowledge (XXG) users. Regards,

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if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the

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restored by another editor who also removed your section, which I just reinstated again. Ha, to keep matters simple. Thanks,

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Thanks. By the way, which editor are you referring to? If you don't want to tell me, you don't have to. I'm just interested.

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deleted back in nov 2013 according to your talk page archive. I wonder why this failed just because it failed to live up to

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cleaning up formatting problems like this, and it is very strange for you to reintroduce them without consulting anyone.

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text to create a subsection there. The "keep" criterion for individual sections is much lower than for whole articles.

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terminal layout, but it is not working properly. I was wondering if you knew what was wrong. Attached is the template.

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Additionally, I still have a lot of work to do to the existing next-stop templates to make them work on this template.

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For some of the local 4-track stations, the southbound tracks are supposed to be on top (this can be solved by making

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is already in use) Okay, I will experiment with doing just that. I'll do that on a few stations as a test. Probably

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Hi. Thank you for your recent edits. Knowledge (XXG) appreciates your help. We noticed though that when you edited

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Actually, I think you were right in the first place. When I read it properly, I realised it was an attack page.

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No problem, though I think that a Wiktionary definition would be better placed toward the bottom of the article.

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German chapter asks for "reworking" of Funds Dissemination Committee; should MP4 be allowed on Wikimedia sites?

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Your continued insistence to add station layouts to MBTA stations with only one or two platforms, despite the

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First, some of the local 4-track stations have varying services (and thus varying colors) throughout the line.

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