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I added a brief message at the end of the GAR, Evan, but I just wanted to say another thank-you for your review. To repeat, you really did bring something to that article. Plus, having seen recent discussions relating to how some articles are being passed as GAs when they're not worthy of promotion,
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The article discusses the ancient sources that relate to Jesus and how they fit together to establish that he existed. The evidence for Jesus is not just based on the
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Hi, I think you were right in asking for closure of the Rfc on AD/BC. But could I talk you into removing the "As much as I disagree with that consensus" item? There is a 10% chance that someone may say that was not totally neutral wording and may generate further delays. If you just trim that, it
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Thanks, wanted you to know that I've finished addressing your concerns. Ya know, this seems to be consistent about the FACs I submit these days. I think that my attempt to make sure that the articles I submit are ready might be working against me. Reviewers see that it's ready to be passed and
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Hi Evan. You may have noticed that I've protected your talk page again because of the latest harassment. I think it's about time to extend the protection to indef - if you think that's a good idea, could you create a separate subpage for talk posts for new and unregistered users, per
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I think you called it right Lindsay. I think it was not just based on counting (which was clear), but that the supporting users had some uniformity in their reasons. But by and large I agree with Evan and yourself. Thanks.
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Okay, great! I'll keep an eye on Ringo as well, but if you notice anything that could use help from me, chasing down a source, copy editing, or anything else, just drop me a note here or elsewhere and I'll take a look.
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Since I was asking for a close against my preference, I didn't anticipate it being an issue. On second thought, though, I can see how there's a small chance of it being problematic. Fixed. Thanks!
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in the last month or so. On Thursday and Friday the tool will be down for a major deployment; it should be up by Saturday, failing anything going wrong, and by Monday if something doesĀ :). Thanks,
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academic opposition to the existence of Jesus has evaporated away now and scholars see it as a concluded issue. The discussion is now just among mostly self-published non-academics.
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don't review them because they think that others will come along to support. And then they don't get enough reviewers to pass! I think that's what happened with the above-mentioned
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goodwill (in any forum, wikipedia or otherwise) and it adds a lot of integrity to this particular article's promotion. Big thanks and congrats once again ā I mean it.
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I'm usually very conscientious about that, but tonight for some reason I had a real brain blip - twice in row! Must be getting old. Thanks for letting me know.
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