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This is obviously a charged issue at the moment. Once again, I don't mean to denigrate you personally, as I feel the problem here stems from deficiencies in the system itself, not just the quality of your efforts. I look forward to hearing your response to my comments on the Strickland FARC page- particularly your view as to whether the article breached the guidelines for an FA in the first place in hindsight. I personally feel that this point at least is manifest. Once again though, I am not attacking you- to my knowledge, you did (and pretty much continue to be doing) everything in the correct way. Signed (reluctantly)
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have the single) then you would make it easier. IIRC Amazon had once been asked about using their images but couldn't give a positive or negative reply. Even though the image may originate from Interscope, it is not always the case for commercial vendors and often they have to create the images themselves, so you cannot say that it is from Interscope. It could very well be produced by amazon. My recommendation is please scan it yourself and replace the image to prevent any problems.
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Hi EM- Well, my opinion of the article is stated clearly elsewhere and I stand by that, but as a rule of thumb- don't worry about criticism. If nothing else, some important points about the FA process specifically and wikipedia in general have been made in the debate, which counts as a service by you
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Sure thing. I've got a bit of free time this afternoon, so I'll work on it and get back to you. Do you have any specific requests in mind? Like specific albums that should be reviewed, etc., or should I just try for a random assortment? Also, any preference for magazines like Entertainment Weekly
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These are all fair use images on important, high traffic articles. None of them justify fair use beyond the template. Nor are these anomalies. This is the norm. Please provide evidence that this is not acceptable practice on Knowledge (XXG). Remember, policy is not set in stone; it is set by practice
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I'm not a brand new user. Count my vote or don't count my vote- it's the comments that matter and I said my piece. It annoys me that the right of editors to not register is challenged on wiki, despite the fact that refusing to countenance anonymity is against the rules, and in my opinion, anti wiki.
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Thanks for responding to my message. After further investigation, it seems that Tcatron cited the U.S. chart positions but not those of other nations. I followed up on Tcatron565's discussion page. Frustrating. Two thirds of the time, the user ignores comments and requests. But the other third,
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Fine I'll put everything from the CD page to the other page. And what is different from the two different album things? Knowledge (XXG) is supposed to be fun! But it's not! It has so many rules!!! 9876 to be exact!I never want to talk to u again. Just mail me a letter if I ask you a question! OKAY!
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Yep, M.C has eight Grammy nods. Call me skeptical or mean, but I believe that Im just being realistic when I say she wont win any (or will receive two at most). She has never been a favourite of the Grammy voters (with good reasons). Hope you dont mind the long list, but here are my predictions for
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Sorry for the late reply, and no, I dont mind, please call me Orane (that's my name). As for the rollback, I apologise, I should have explained my reasons on that talk page (its just that I was rushing as I was late for work. Also, that rollback button causes one to become quite lazy :-). Anyway, I
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happen, but at the same time, mentioning how those who reported it described it. In so doing, I addressed the fact that they reported it inaccurately, while still mentioning what they said. This did not involve any original research, since the sources I utilized were the actual broadcast and the
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By the file name it appears to originate from Amazon. There is no clear policy about this, but personally I would recommend scanning an image yourself because even with fair use it is a commercial third vendor which can technically claim copyright on the jpg. If you can rescan it (because I don't
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Hi, thanks for your message to me about the edits made to Kelly Clarkson's page. I'm thinking of complaining to the powers that be of Knowledge (XXG), because it is ungrammatical in English to write a title with only the first letter of the initial word and nouns in capitals, leaving the rest in
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hi, i wonder, why are you doing this to Smallville? it took me months to complete that article with big effort , every single day i just revived a lonely article and now you just want to delete an article because you just want to do it? before setting up a deletion mark, just be decent and add a
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I've seen that before on some Wikipedias - out of curiosity what is the point if only part of the article is translated and the content changes later on anyway? I always thought the message was to be written only when doing an entire translation. I'll add the template, but just curious.
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What you're saying, then, is that no person or organization in the field of public relations, or in any way associated with Ms. Strickland, had anything to do with the creation of this article, or with its ascension to featured article status, in any way, shape, or form?
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Agreed, congrats on it Extraordinary Machine. Of course, I'm not that much interested in all that entertainment and whatnot, but hot diggity damn boy, you've got some talent for writing articles about the industry. I hope you get paid big bucks at some sleuthy mag.
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Please help me with this article. People are biased, because it is about religion mixed with racism and politics (the radio openly supports the ruling party PiS in Poland), and I cannot get through the editorial war with some users who keep reverting me.
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why not do that to the OC page for example? be fair c'mon there won't be any copyright issues, the WB just wants to promote their series and we are helping giving information to everyone, that's Knowledge (XXG) about passing the knowledge to everyone...
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I actually think it would be better and more organize if we separate the articles by albums instead of years just look at Madonna's page it's very neat and about Ashlee Simpson it would be better if you separate film and music and the controversies.
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what happened. She merely took off her sweater, and had a top and hot pants undernearth. For some bizarre reason, people subsequently described this as a "striptease," when it was anything but. I addressed this by describing what precisely
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digress. I didnt mean to send the message that "your edit wasn't good enough", but I thought that the additions slightly disrupted the flow of the intro, especially the additions at the end of it. Wont happen again without a discussion first.
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I've checked the user out, but he doesn't seem to be online that much, so I made the statement in the Talk Page. I am still curious about this case, because it seems like the vendor has commercial interests since it's part of their business.
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His behaviour is not one to clash with, and unfortunately, I've met with this fate. I'd really appreciate it if you could give me some advice. Mel Etitis is pushing my buttons with inaccurate edits. I apologize for continuously hounding you.
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lower-case letters, and titles of things such as books, songs, programmes etc. are supposed to use single quotation marks (' ') when italics are not available (i.e. in handwriting), but it is available on WIkipedia, and should be used.
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Sorry about removing your comment. I performed a revert on the vandalism that occurred before you posted your message, and was in the process of restoring your message when an edit conflict occurred between myself and a vandal. Sorry!
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I guess because I didn't like the way it look, I don't know. I was sure someone would post links and/or references to the Janet page. I guess I need to know what I'm doing before I erased such stuff, I guess. LOL -- Posted by
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I must be vexing you out of your spirits by now (and sorry if I am), however because of your participation in bringing "Cool" to featured article status (among others), I was wondering if you would like to edit Stefani's
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The article was prepared by the anti-racist movement in Polanmd and comes from their website. However, even link to this article was erased, as well as other my comments on it being a "hate radio". Please, help.
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Also, you seem to have yourself categorized as a "Wikipedian teenager". Are you really a teenager? Your behaviour and personality (from what I've gathered) could classify you as an adult in my book of life.
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patrollers won't mistake the editor being reverted for a vandal. On an unrelated note, I read yesterday that somebody whom we both like received eight Grammy nominations, which is cool. :) Anyway, see you!
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I hope that doesn't mean you are leaving. I made a couple edits to KaDee Strickland, and I'm not 100% sure about them. Anyway, great work on it and the other articles - pop culture articles especially :).
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Of course I do not take this personally. Your contributions on Knowledge (XXG) are excellent, regardless of the article you edit, so thank you nonetheless. Perhaps we could collaborate some other time.
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Hello. I was wondering if you would like to participate in my classic rock survey. I'm trying to find the most like classic rock song. There is more information on my user page. Hope you participate!
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etc. Ive addressed her music, changes in sounds/genres, motivation etc. at the end of each sub-section, and Ive also added a "Image and Celebrity status" section at the bottom. You can reply at the
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Yeah, I understand. I was reverting the vandal the slow way (i.e. by "editing this version" on the last good revision and then pasting in my text at the bottom before saving) and you beat me to it.
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No I didn't. Somebody else must of. You can take away the dvd covers, but leave the album covers because they need to be there. It's wasn't supposed to be a decoration, but the dvd covers were.
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Congrats on mainpage! I remember voting for this article, which you had nominated for FAC, and was impressed by the amount written on such a little-known celebrity. Congrats to you, again! -
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Why did you tag this as no copyright info? It was clearly labeled as a screenshot from a film ({{film-screenshot}}), which is fair use. This photo illustrates the section in the
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I see the user making significant step forwards. For example here, no citation of international chart positions, but the user did cite the U.S. chart positions. --
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Congrats again on Main Page. There is quite a stir among Wikipedians about it. I enjoyed reading the article and she is nice eye candy!!! (very attractive)--
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article. Ive taken the comments at the last FA and have tried to address them: Ive found many print sources, about 5 Books, more authoritative reviews:
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I didn't think the edits were that great either, but just a simple edit summary explaining the revert goes very far; additionally, it means that
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descriptions people (like news outlets or commentators) gave on it. If you have any other questions about it, feel free to ask. :-) Thanks.
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You obviously have what it takes to write a featured article. Why don't you focus on subjects that are more deserving of your talents? --
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It's okay, we all make silly errors; could you add the source since you were the one who discovered it? Much appreciated, as always. –
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I do see, thanks. Also, I'd recommend that you archive your talk page. It's growing rather... long, for lack of a better word. --
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Wow, sorry for the long list; It must be wasting your user page. Feel free to wipe everything out after reading, I wont mind.
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Mel Etitis seems to have a blatant number of reasons for his opinion being the correct one. Judging by some of his edits in
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requires "Proper attribution of the source of the material, and attribution of the copyright holder (if it is different)
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Thank you very much, Im sure that it will be very useful. I really want to sit and work on the article, but I have an
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Here is an article about this racist issue, that I cannot decribe in English due to vandalism against any new :
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I don't think the rules here have been really thought through very well, and seem to me to be in quite a mess.
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By the way, do you know how to upload audio samples (or where I could get them). I have never done that.
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I thank you for informing me of this, but could you please explain how you knew about my edits to the
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recently and noticed that people have been removing images from the article. Another editor said on
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Unless I've yet to see it, could you add the source from where you located the quote by Stefani on
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Nice work on your pop culture-related articles. Knowledge (XXG) thanks you for your services. --
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was actually of Joel, not Benji. Could you please confirm or deny this on that talk page? --
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I'll see if I can get up to speed on this before adding more material. Thanks for the links.
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DON'T CORRECT EVERY THING I DO WRONG!!!!!! IT GETS ON MY NERVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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reason ok? then why not try puttin that deletion mark everywhere on wikipedia as you wish
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article this time around. Could you please double-check on this instance? Thanks. --
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for some irony; I wound up getting feedback of concern for using material from the
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Knowledge (XXG) use when doing the same thing. I assume that would be acceptable?
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will be participating (despite his mirror past). I'll be awaiting your reply! —
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No one knows who the copyright holder on this video is. Mainstream media (see
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All done. Check the talk page, and let me know if you need anything else. --
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article that describes a surreptitious film of Jackson taken by paparazzi.
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Well you'll have to also address this to the user who placed the images on
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Wow, I didn't look at your user page, there are a lot of Barnstars!! --
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This is probably a bother, but could you please take another look at the
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Thank you for your concerns over the passage. In fact, what I described
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Good call on the fair use image... surprising no one caught it before! ~
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I have added Fair Use rationale to all of the Fair Use images on the
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for featured status? It'd sort of be like a collaboration, and
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article: I feel your concern has been addressed. Thank you. --
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benefited greatly from all of those comments, and it's now a
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Responded. Please see the talk page once again. Thanks. —
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Orane (do you mind if I call you that?), I just noticed
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Tell me what you think of the album pages proposal. --
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I've addressed your objection. Thanks for voting. --
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User talk:Extraordinary Machine
User:Mel Etitis
Cool (song)
Hollow Wilerding
21:00, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
Hollow Wilerding
22:04, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
Charlie144
07:08, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
unsigned
Hotwiki
talk
contribs
KittenKlub
16:21, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
KittenKlub
17:31, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
Hollaback Girl
Hollow Wilerding
21:02, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
Hollow Wilerding
21:16, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
Cool (song)
Hollow Wilerding
23:37, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
Hollow Wilerding
20:55, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
Janet Jackson
Firebug
23:20, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

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