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number of differences have been observed between pedophiles and controls, which lead to the identification of specific characteristics for which pedophiles appear to distinguish themselves. However, an important limitation of these studies is their almost systematic use of forensic and clinical samples. Indeed, there is little to suggest that such samples are representative of the general pedophile population. This extensive use of forensic and clinical samples in studies on pedophiles is especially problematic considering that the conclusions of such studies are often generalised to all pedophiles. As many studies have found that pedophiles from forensic and clinical samples display multiple differences when compared to controls, we decided to assess five of these differences in order to determine if these results would be replicated within a community sample of pedophiles. We compared a community sample of 190 male pedophiles with a control group composed of 151males from the general population, examining differences in their depressive symptoms, self-esteem, psychopathic traits, height, and handedness. All participants were recruited on the internet and filled an online questionnaire. Data were tested based on three different levels of analysis, each assessing a particular division of participants regarding their sexual orientation. Differences between pedophiles and controls were not statistically significant for depressive symptoms, self-esteem, height, and handedness. Difference between pedophiles and controls reached statistical significance for psychopathic traits, with pedophiles displaying fewer psychopathic traits compared to controls. These results contradict the findings of the large majority of studies using forensic and clinical samples of pedophiles.ā 2.
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in the early stages of puberty, Bailey, Hsu, & Bernhard, 2016) seem to coalesce around the notion that these interests are associated with increased introversion, neuroticism, and, in some studies, impulsivity or decreased conscientiousness (Tenbergen et al., 2015), which is sometimes interpreted as indicating "a causal relationship between abnormal brain functioning and pedophilia" (Kruger & Schiffer, 2001, p. 1651). In most cases, these observations are based on samples of sexual offenders against children (Cohen et al., 2002; Kruger & Schiffer, 2011; Langevin, Paitich, Freeman, Mann, & Handy, 1978). For instance, on the
Revised NEO Personality Inventory, child sexual offenders emerged as generally low on extraversion and conscientiousness and high on neuroticism compared to non-offenders (Dennison, Stough, & Birgden, 2001). Yet, only about 50% of child sexual offenders are assumed to have corresponding sexual interests in minors (Seto, 2007), while many people with a sexual interest in children find ways of managing their sexual desires without breaking the law (Cantor & McPhail, 2016). Hence, studies reporting personality differences associated with pedohebephilia are tainted by an overreliance on correctional samples of child sex offenders (who might or might not have a sexual interest in children; Cohen, Ndukwe, Yaseen, & Galynker, 2018; Feelgood & Hoyer, 2008).ā
1362:@Ezlev @Flyer22 Frozen @Crossroads No credible source identifies "paraphilias" as mental disorders/illnesses. Taking pedophilia as an example, the DSM-V entry on pedophilic disorder explicitly states, āIf they report an absence of feelings of guilt, shame, or anxiety about these impulses and are not functionally limited by their pedophilic impulses (according to self-report, objective assessment, or both), and their self-reported and legally recorded indicate that they have never acted on their impulses, then these individuals have a pedophilic sexual orientation but not pedophilic disorder.ā The ICD-11 page says, āIn order for Pedophilic Disorder to be diagnosed, the individual must have acted on these thoughts, fantasies, or urges or be markedly distressed by them.ā Additionally, plenty of scientific studies have shown that pedophilia works the same way as and is no fundamentally different from teleiophilia, or, for that matter, androphilia or gynephilia. See research: 1.
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and should read 'sexual interest.'" They added, "In fact, APA considers pedophilic disorder a 'paraphilia,' not a 'sexual orientation.' This error will be corrected in the electronic version of DSM-5 and the next printing of the manual." They said they strongly support efforts to criminally prosecute
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was absolutely correct. Paraphilias are paraphilias. They are not considered to be standard sexualities. A number of them are considered mental disorders, regardless of if one wants to divide them into "paraphilia" and "paraphilic disorder." The most they should get is a mention lower in the article.
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however, my standpoint is that your edits gave undue weight to the concepts they discussed through phrasing and placement in the lead. My issue is not with the content you added, but rather with the way it was placed and phrased; I don't think the sources justify the amount of weight it was given.
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The difference with regard to the DSM and other authorities on paraphilias is that the DSM has made a distinction between paraphilias and paraphilic disorders. But the vast majority of other sources on pedophilia do not make a "pedophilia" and "pedophilic disorder" distinction. And as for the DSM
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In the interest of keeping this discussion oriented toward improving the article (and keeping my talk page as concise as possible) rather than debating the science, I've collapsed the latter part of your message. I also don't feel that I'm knowledgeable enough to contribute constructively to this
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Other types of attraction patterns are every bit as significant as gender-based ones. Remember, this page is about "the way people experience and express themselves sexually. This involves biological, erotic, physical, emotional, social, or spiritual feelings and behaviors." There is no reason to
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I reverted your edits because they were vague allegations that failed verification in both sources. If you are going to try to add this again, be prepared to use quotes & specific page numbers for each of those quotes. To allege someone is white supremacist without solid citations violates
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Also, if you would just look up the definition of sexuality "sexual preference"/"capacity for sexual feelings", you would see that it includes literally any pattern of attraction, provided it involves sexual attraction rather than solely romantic attraction.
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selectively include one but not another; there should at least be a sentence or two summarizing my edit near the "Someone's sexual orientation is their pattern of sexual interest in the opposite or same sex." that has been allowed to remain on the page.
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As you surely already know, you can propose your addition on the talk page. Otherwise, no matter that you've placed the content lower, you may be reverted again. Sorry (not sorry), but we will not be describing pedophilia as just another sexuality.
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