User talk:Floydian/Archive/2014a

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telling me to shut up defending myself, "digging the hole deeper"...... silencing me from opposing frustrating and hostile behaviour is "playing into their hands". Kwami was called out for BAITing me as a tactic to derail last year's RMs, it's clear to me that that's the intent of the ongoing harrassment and opposition - to BAIT me. Paranoid? No, not when such behaviour follows such a clear pattern from the same crowd over and over again..... sorry to rant; your support on the RMs is appreciated; re the ANI, I don't have the inclination to tit-for-tat re Uysvdi's catalogue of items against me, but there are many things she's said that are derisive in nature and her hypocrisy in not chastising her friends is just "more of the same"..... but if I can find that passage where she openly insults and defames me, it's definitely being posted on the RM.... pot kettle black is what this is about; I'm trying to do constructive work and still do despite the ongoing procedural harrassment and posturing about wikiquette by some of its worst and most persistent violators.....SmokeyJoe sounds just like them btw; not a sock but maybe a recruit....

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who just won't get it, no matter how detailed the explanation or compelling the stats in question. That American and UK and other external perceptions of Canadian titles - the alleged "global usage" - are now being mandated as more relevant than Canadian English usage is entirely contra-ENGVAR, but like so many other guidelines being ignored by such closes, that one gets not just ignored by dumped on and criticized; just as the native-name for native peoples is given short shrift, so are Canadian usages/realities being shoved aside by both "voters" and "closers" who know nothing about the places or peoples in question, and who don't care about ENGVAR and make a point of saying so - or claim, without explaining why, that it is irrelevant. Indundating - vote-bombing - RMs and CFDs with oppose votes that are not grounded in data or local reality should all be discounted; instead they are counted quantitatively, just as population figures are fielded as "why nots" and the habit of counting the characters used in a post explaining the issues is used as a criticism, instead of what the posts in question

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continues with the same kind of behaviour......JorisV's personal attacks like "not being capable of proper discussion" when all he does is obfuscate and misdirect and field copy-pasted NCL incantations is out there too; but I'd rather work on articles and title/category fixes, which you can see I've been doing throughout all this bullshit. I'm going to put a "TLDR complaints are not welcome on this talkpage, if you can't read, then learn to, if you don't want to read, they don't complain to me that you don't want to understand what you refuse to read" of some such; Bushranger and Fayenatic, Anna Frodesikak, Brown Haired Girl et al.....TLRD is used as a BLUDGEON and an excuse of the worst kind.....anti-intellectual whining by people raised on TV, movies and "graphic novels"... I was educated in my readings by historians, poets, philosophers....not popular magazines and Coles Notes, which is my opinion of the semi-literates who invoke TLDR because of their own insecurity/intimidatino at reading things longer than 250 words...again, sorry to rant; I was reading the

2720:, or the people that exist at another article title... or most importantly, for some non-notable heliskiing company that doesn't have an article? The "natural" BC disambiguator is natural for a California editor, but is contrary to the Canadian style of arranging articles in terms of primary and secondary topics. I feel like Johnny Cochrane: "It jus' doesn' make sinse!" The town has a unique name, the other titles are based upon that name and likewise, have their own unique name. But, what this reinforces is that these formalized move requests are not getting any Canadians involved but instead a group of editors who have likely never heard of the place having (or better yet, choosing) to decide purely on "Well, we have this article, this article, and this article that all begin with Bella Coola, so..." - 1607:) that is so blatantly flawed and created in isolation from both citable reality and a host of other guidelines that is tiresome in the extreme; I'm part of the community, so are you (and you seem to be completely able to understand my lengthy style of writing and do not regard it as a personality disorder or misconduct, which is the tub being thumped at me; I'm still going about my work (prodigious as you know it to be) despite the harrassment; ANI is incestuous and all this needs to be addressed at higher levels. As for abusing Canadian English standard usages, having Americans and Britons denounce those as "not global" when the facts and stats state and searches show otherwise. More input from Canadians on such RMs, and also from t hose who do 2593:

not in other population centres such as Port Hardy or Vancouver or Rupert. There really is no ambiguity whatsoever re PRIMARYTOPIC because of the titling difference and the modern usage; Canadian titles should not be unencumbered beccause the rest of the world is slow to catch up to our reality within Canada; most searches on Google news will be Canadian anyway, and they'll be for the town 101% unless someone wants to claim a citation from 1960 from an old newspaper is proof of such a dispute....as for Google books and Google scholar, even there more recent publications shoudl be using Heiltsuk...."if not why not?" and even then they will be in the minority, as seen in similar cases elsewhere

2885:. Here data was produced, as mandated, and ignored by the closer......as also happened at Squamish and some others. It's a major problem of the RM/CfD system - that those who feel a compulsive need to vote on things according to their own particular field of view re guidelines and who don't know anything of substance about the topics in question are even voting, never mind closing, is a major problem, and it doesn't only apply to the town/native name situation. That RM lurkers and CfD lurkers also like to say 'no' and do it rather wantonly is, well, tiresome and winds up being disruptive, and derails needed changes way too often. 2749:

people don't realize or don't care is that places like Bella Coola, Bella Bella, Atlin, Lillooet etc are regional centres, and also including members of the FN people claimed to be the alt PT as part of their populations and agglomerations; the Bella Coola IR is not part of the "white townsite" but it's still part of "Bella Coola" and, from the outside perspective, so are Stuie and Fireside et al in the Bella Coola Valley; the Cayoose Creek/Sek'wel'was and Lillooet/T'it'q'et IRs are part of the

1310: 44: 2143:. I tried to be succinct in both, it remains to be seen if the usual naysayers show up to dispute these; all my recently filed RMs seem to be being ignored altogether; rather than the seven-day wait it may be better to ask them to be reverted as undiscussed and contrary to guidelines "other than NCL". I'm going to start compiling a listing of all standalone indigenous titles and will find a spot to put it of the same kind as 298: 358: 965: 159: 1108: 108: 1267: 1450:. Ironically the person leading the charge to challenge PRIMARYTOPIC is the same who closed an RM last year where major town's name and the clear PRIMARYTOPIC wasn't even on the table in changing a native endonym title to its "English" form, which is the same as that of the town. Once all these others are necessarily recognized as PRIMARYTOPIC titles the cluster of articles related to 2090:, who speak Ucwalmicwts as St'at'imcets is known there, and I know a story about a cave near Seton Portage that has a huge skull in it which the elders told the native who told me not to tell the white man as they'll screw around with it. They also said it was an "ancestor". The skull was big enough to put on over the head of a man wearing a hardhat; about Sts'Ailes stories see 797: 3120:""In religion and politics, people's beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination, from authorities who have not themselves examined the questions at issue, but have taken them at second-hand from other non-examiners, whose opinions about them were not worth a brass farthing." 2273:(consensi?) in now-countless RMs.......and instead makes me an issue, as he did in last year's RMs he failed to "win" and as he and his allies have done, repeatedly and avidly......and now sniping at me "Will you stop now?". What? Stop raising guidelines and pointing to precedent, or stop editing wikipedia altogether? 2200:. I posted this at the CanCommunities board yesterday but don't know who even looks at that. I explain the issues there, and in the previous RM there was an exhaustive "MOSTCOMMON" set of searches, but the reality is that the "Self-identification" guidelines and also a passage in TITLE about going for names that are 1800:. The absurdity of VW's line here about the Waterdome being a potential primarytopic, and the very typical plaint that the town's population (nearly all of whom work for or at or with the Marine Sciences Centre) is only 231 people is like a formula that he repeats endlessly...and apparently has been doing so for 3063:

didn't have time last night)? Will closers continue to listen to off-the-wall, unsubstantiated "naysayer" votes and continue to ignore compelling stats/results in the name of some undefined PRIMARYTOPIC taht is allegedly "global usage"? Or can these be reverted without being relisted, being non-admin closures??

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now is part of a rising pattern of hostility towards me from that admin which I will take time to document and ask "why?". It is claimed by Anna deFrosiak that "the community tires of etc." "The community" is being used self-referentially, just like the use of "we have policy" when referring to a guideline (

2666:. The sole oppose vote on both was from Dicklyon, who on Bella Coola maintained the heli-skiing company was a potential PRIMARYTOPIC - ????. View stats and google searches on both of these were conclusive for the town/muni, respectively. Both of these obviously need to be relisted, or overturned- like 1533:

Many of those hits will be in connection with the failed RM and CfD, no doubt, but the pattern is clear, no? How to get the cluster of Squamish articles properly reviewed and revisited I don't know; two failed RMs and a hostile audience to anything suggestive of using the native endonym despite lots

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Hey Floydian! Is it possible if you could find some images on the subject? It would be a great addition on the page. I've check Flickr for some Creative Commons license compatible images for Highway 25. I see a few, but the images seem to be from the Niagara region rather than Oakville/Burlington and

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were closed by BrownHairedGirl as "NO CONSENSUS - not moved" (shouting in caps)......how does a person in Ireland feel qualified to close on titles she has no direct knowledge or experience of? That she is openly hostile to me calls into question her motive in these closures...I really wish BDD had

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Take a step back man, you're tying a noose around your neck. Even if it is a farce, that farce is going to roll where it wants. I've also learned that discussion actual content issues at ANI is fruitless; it often fuels the fire since you are inflamed over that content issue, you spill your passion,

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regard my style of writing as an indignity towards themselves re the ANI and elsewhere is needed; I see what is going on as an orchestrated attempt to drive me from Knowledge (XXG); I will email you a draft response to Uysvdi's partisan harassment and abuse of her adminship privately; I did not post

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needs sorting out according to the same principles; I will reserve comment on my treatment and the attitude towards me in the two RMs in question, and the two CfDs, and why they were wrongly closed. Where to take that I don't know, perhaps to RfC or Arbco or ?? but it seems best for me, due to the

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How to amend the "bad closes" winds up being yet another process tied up by people asking the same non sequiturs as heard already, and also by people not prepared to read the data or find out about the place/topic that is under discussion. Non-admin closures can be overturned without another RM, I

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I'm beginning to think that the one unsubstantiated oppose vote was given as much weight as the data results, which maybe were treated as TLDR; the counting of votes on a quantitative basis vs qualitative information is where Squamish and others got railroaded by non-Canadians who don't "get it" or

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itself, who use "Bella Bella" for the town and "Heiltsuk" for themselves; I'll be curious to see if someone raises the small population shibboleth we've seen elsewhere here also which would be comical given that that small population happens to be nearly all Heiltsuk in the area, i.e. those who are

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and in the same breath takes another snipe at me. Consensus will never be achieved so long as the architect of a failed guideline (which he has claimed, as has JorisV, is "policy") refuses to acknowledge the guidelines that he never addressed in the first place nor all the very obvious consensuses

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handy to do all that much; but core to the Sts'Ailes self-identity and oral tradition there's lots about the sasquatch; it's their word originally and something like 95% of all Sasquatch stories come from that region, between there and Yale....interestingly they say the Sasquatch speak the "Douglas

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but I hadn't moved across all the Prairies yet nor done Ontario, other than Ojibwe I think, which is also on the table if not on that short list, which was for items in BC/YT/NT/AB..... I thought I'd filed for but I hadn't...... can it be moved without the hassle of an RM which will draw the usual

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The ongoing theme emerging in all this is of rank linguistic and cultural colonialism by people making false claims about "global usage" and more......tiresome....but too typical of Canadians to not give a shit huh? Tugging the forelock, shrugging, submission to too much to describe.....one of the

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strikethrough is problematic. Screen readers don't read the formatting, so blind people using that technology to read the article to them would hear the text you struck through before the text you added. Also, as Floydian says, we need to go with what the sources say. If the source is wrong (and it

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Yeah, amateur psychiatric diagnosis by people with "unaddressed issues" is all too common in the real world too.....that I've changed my bullet-less ways didn't stop someone from criticizing me for not using them. I was going to ignore the ANI today until I saw LBB weigh in, who's being a pain on

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so will shut up until such time as someone else who works with Canadian community titles on a regular basis weighs in. Even when I bullet-point I get the complaint of "lengthy text" which to me speaks to the rise of semi-literacy, and its negative effects on what should be an encyclopedia full of

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Kwami's direct insults I know where they are, including copy-pasted across multiple RMs as well as on the NCET guideline's discussion page where he calls me "idiotic" and elsewhere that my references to mainstream guidelines are "ridiculous"; but what's the point he has been disciplined before but

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I haven't even looked at the partisan ANI filed against me yet; I've been too busy placing the CANENGL template on titles where Canadian English is/will be under dispute by those who maintain our lexicon is irrelevant to global usage, even though stats prove them all wrong; attacking me officially

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Oh boy, have I been there before (Crown Copyright, anyone?). It can be a real pain once a group of editors decide to pounce on your every move and shred it apart. It very quickly turns into ignorant stonewall. As for the move discussions that have fallen through, I'd wait a few weeks and try again

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I'm obviously not the person who would be welcome at Move Review; and I regret not being aware of not using RMs for these but posting them here for in-Canada discussion; so what will happen with Bella Bella, where I've just provided the view stats and Google News results (Google Books next up, I

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will eventually exisst for inclusion of the communities of Stuie, Fireside etc once there are articles on them, and the main Nuxalk IR is not part of the town, though near it; see notes about the usage of "Bella Coola" meaning more than the town on that RM in answer to Dicklyon's claim. In both

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which are surrounded by IRs and which also have a large contingent of natives within the municipal citizenry and/or where the "town"/community, incorporated or otherwise, is adjacent to/symbiotic with the surrounding IR communities; Dog Creek, Nazko; in the cases of municipal/IR combinations the

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That same refrain is heard on lots of dab/PT disputes, with "FOO whatever" being claimed to be a legit PT vs "FOO" when really according to the rules, it's not even in the running. Atlin, Taku, Bella Bella, Cassiar etc. The specious population figure issue we've seen on Lillooet etc; what these

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address all those things that the RMs are validating - TITLE, CONCISION, Self-identification, CLARITY etc.....we were very thoughtful, not blinkers-on from a particular field's perspective. All of which he ignored, just as he ignored TITLE and all the rest when writing NCL and leading the small

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he did not move, saying "no consensus"; it's full of the same kind of oppose votes we've seen elsewhere including one's he's closed/moved. I don't get why he would decide against that one, which is so obvious it's painful that it is being made an exception, despite his own setting of precedents

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I think you've just pointed out what is your own disservice. You added 6,738 characters to my talk page there; I've skimmed through to pick out the points you're making, but everything just gets lost (tl;dr). There is a big benefit to being succinct, which is why it is a major part of technical

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It was on some of the town RMs that you commented about oppose votes; the subtext of many of those opposes, or the agenda behind them, is that "global usage" for the native peoples in various cases was supposedly teh PRIMARYTOPIC, which as we have seen is a fallacy not born out by view stats or

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which has had that dab since 2005, though it seems that there was some confusion as to that being a people name also, which it is not; that confusion has turned up elsewhere also. Many of the FOO language ones were similarly moved without discussion from their long-standing titles per NCLism -

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and the persistent obstinacy about CANENGL heard from JorisV and many others. I quoted what Themightyquill had to say about me on the Squamish CfD but of course he was ignored; I haven't "polled" him about this but guess I should notify him that I quoted him? What is absurd to me is Bushranger

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Your wise input and this technical aide for such purposes has been greatly appreciated, thank you. I weary of all this, though, and lament all the time and energy I could have put into writing and expanding articles instead of dealing with procedure and those using it in a hostile, combative,

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I've been busy all day since my last presence here; my reply to you was almost the last of my earlier wiki-session; I was about to do them right now in fact, but since you don't seem to know much about Bella Bella and who lives there and who governs it, you would do well to read the paragraph

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that I'm trying to help you build your case. As I mentioned on my talk, I don't have the interest to get involved in that RM discussion. I did however think maybe I could nudge you in a direction that would hopefully help your case and make things easier for you there and in future similar RM

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known as Lillooet; though not part of the District of Lillooet in municipal terms. And the DoL is also partly St'at'imc in composition, likewise the unincorporated town/townsite of Bella Coola. That the Nuxalk government calls the town/area "Bella Coola" and do not use that term to refer to

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is now only a component of, no longer a Village or Town or whatever it was before; the many IRs within that RM (which is the only one so far) are not part of the data, just as those within Chilliwack and Abby and West Kelowna are separately governed and censused even though within municipal

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the standalone native titles, a list which you probably know has grown considerably in the last week or two because of my RMs; that RMs he was trying to shut down, and now a guideline discussion that needs to happen but failing to stonewall change he now is pretty much demanding I leave.

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is a complicated one; LBB's proposal to merge people and band articles is very much against IPNA conventions (he's not part of IPNA to my knowledge). The band uses the Sts'Ailes name for both the people and the culture; a dab is needed on teh band page, which is no longer suitably titled

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From what I can see, I wouldn't consider the oppose to be any opposition. With Saanich, there's dozens of statistics provided for the move, and an oppose of "Eh... I don't think we need to". With Bella Coola, there is a oppose that runs opposite to our title conventions. We don't have

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the original highway that was constructed throughout the 1970s and finished in 1983—and the construction of a new interchange with Highway 401. Sections of both opened throughout the late 1990s. Highway 416 was commemorated as the Veterans Memorial Highway on the 54th anniversary of

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themselves is somehow wiki-outweighed by Googlebooks titles, of all eras, still using "Bella Coola" for the people; but this is against "Self-identification".....that the people whose name is declared to be PT vs a town name don't themselves use the name in question themselves

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I had a look at Move Review and know better than to bother; its parameters are not content/logic driven by solely about wikiquette and "tone"......which are where Knowledge (XXG)'s priorities more and more lay, rather than in accuracy and genuine encyclopedism and up-to-date

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to comment on these topics is a big and mounting problem. Would you or I presume to adjudge an RM or CfD in Ireland, and/or wherever the hell DavidLeighEllis is from? The anti-ENGVAR/CANENGL tone of many of these RMs/CfDs tells me I don't have a hope in hell re

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separate incorporations mean the muni and the band governments are necessarily separate articles, though the same place for every intents and purposes if not for census info being compiled and indexed separately by StatCan and provincial data systems like RDs and

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google searches. Addressing Cuchulainn's closing comments re indigenous-title RMs on a few today that "we have consensus that the peoples are the PRIMARYTOPIC" I've tried to raise that at the discussion Kwami claims he wanted to have for months now, and he

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and my response to it from one of the more strident and obnoxious/persistent "linguistics colonialists" who ignore all the support votes and guideline citations and more made by others and keep on ranting about how global English trumps Canadian English;

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Thank you :) It is, but at this point I have managed to get the approval of the "crown copyright is exempt from the URAA" tangent I was going on for 2-3 years. I've left my vote / rant. However, in general, Commons itself has just pissed me off lately. -

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on March 23, 2014. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. If you prefer that the article appear as TFA on a different date, or not at all, please ask

3047:, who in the case of Bella Coola claimed that the heliskiing company was a viable competing primarytopic; even if it did have higher view stats and googleratings, it's still not a primary topic candidate for "Bella Coola" per dab rules; nor is 1474:- the trouting by Vegaswikian is the only oppose vote, I did not have time to compile google results; this should go to Move Review or should have been relisted IMO. MoveReview is not somewhere I feel I would receive fair treatment. 1218:

Hey Floydian! Apologies for the long review duration, I haven't took time to look into the article. I have now and have added comments to the GA review. Also this applies to Highway 64. Again apologies for the long duration. Best,

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The reason why I put a strike through the Highway 401 on my revision is because the coroners office is indeed not at Humber River Hospital, instead it is in the government owned property at Keele Street and Wilson Ave (please see

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I have tried to be as succinct as possible in those RMs, and will try to be so here also in future. An important one that was unsatisfactorily "not moved" despite what is clearly (to me) the primarytopic of the people, is

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think; that two-vote RMs with data vs an unsubstantiated oppose vote are closed "no consensus" instead of relisted, or the data being sufficient to override the from-left-field opposes, is very, very, very wrong.

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obstructionist manner.....to think that *I* have been called "disruptive" by the editor whose unnecessary and undiscussed disambiguations is among the many brutal and time-wasting ironies of this whole affair.

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item dab. (It's also, for the record, not at all clear that the one in Parry Sound, which is an unincorporated geographic township, would actually be able to claim PRIMARYTOPIC even if the one in Quinte West

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all the more consterning given the attacks on Canadian English etc from wikipedians in other countries; though some of the opponents in the RMs and other matters in question are ..... in Edmonton it seems.

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these cases, view stats and all kinds of googles were produced showing the town/municipality, respectively, as the clear and away most common use and obvious PRIMARYTOPIC. So what to do in such cases?

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1941-44 and is still where the Post Office is (the post office in "New" Bella Bella is still called, I think, Waglisla). A "solution" to this was up for a while as "The Hazeltons", now broken down into

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Hey. Thanks for the review. I saw the issues, but I've been a tad busy the past few days and haven't had a chance to address them just yet. I should be able to get to it within a day or two. Cheers,

3156:-item dab. And then, since not everybody in the world is a perfect speller we have to account for the high potential of reader confusion with the one-l spelling Walbridge too, which turns it into a 1328: 728:

states that such hatnotes should not be used, but that such links should rather appear either in the paragraphical text or in a "See also" section. Would you object if I re-removed the hatnotes?

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national traits I find most distasteful and disappointing, for all the flag-waving that people do during Olympic hockey adn the Stanley Cup and obsesssing about Tim's as a national symbol.

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of parallel examples and precedents and also towards me suggests that some other means must be used to address PRECISION and CONSISTENCY and the "Self-identification" passages of MOS and

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Were there any supports for those RMs? No; zero. And if you think I was suggesting anything as potential primarytopic, you misread me; I shall try to be more clear in the future.

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was closed "no consensus, not moved" based on only Vegaswikian's PRIMARYTOPIC dispute there; I wish I had known how to use grok.se before that; and btw using that tool there are:

1166:. It had two distinct construction phases. Highway 416 "North" was a 21-kilometre (13 mi) freeway starting from an interchange at Highway 417 and bypassing the original route of 1095: 989: 452: 747:

No problemo. When you do could you add them as see also links? I'll keep my eye on the nomination, it has no specific date that I could nominate it so any day will do. Cheers,

1327:, and many more topics, for patienceand for seeing "many articles, which have since blossomed into beautiful flowers through the contributions of other editors", - you are an 2168:, which IMO should be taken up at MoveReview within the necessary timespan (7 days?); I asked BDD to reconsider his decision but he has not yet replied, and maybe never will. 1098:. If it needs tweaking, or if it needs rewording to match improvements to the article between now and its main page appearance, please edit it, following the instructions at 201: 3100:

even though 95% of Canadian titles in that category use "generating station" ("power station" you do hear in Canada, sometimes for powerhouses...more often for substations).

1717:. That link is only the most recent part of that exchange; Chipewyan is an exonym and regarded as derisive by the Denesuline; he and his kind don't care about that despite 2446:

Very hard to be submissive and obesequious when you're having daggers stuck in your eyes and mouth and your words are being spit upon because you won't submit to a gag....

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editors, Canadian or not, in face of someone who either rejects our dab standards as "not relevant" or just doesn't want to agree, as per his (usual) oppositionist wont:

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I'm very happy to know that humility and knowledge are coexisting in you. You truely have a beautiful mind with a beautiful heart. Thanks for being the way you are.

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Cool. Occasionally I would pass Bronte Creek into Burlington using the 401, maybe during the summer time when visiting the Halton Region will take some photos.

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because its copyright status is unclear or disputed. If the file's copyright status cannot be verified, it may be deleted. You may find more information on the

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is not yet its own article (it's an IR community like Bella Bella though an integral part of "the Hazeltons", a "metropolitan" area that I think also includes

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if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the

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I almost wonder if it may be prudent, more productive, and less bloackaded to open a "discussion" at each page you propose to move, directing people to

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I just found this as it came up on my watchlist when someone put closed discussion templates on a page move discussion from 2008 due to the new RM here

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always re-treading old ground is what I tend to do, I'm teaching right now, will break that up into paragraphs and points after my lesson is over; see

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RMs and others, as also with Dicklyon, whose history he forgets goes a long ways back long before the recent RM he cites......I just went and created

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happens), we need to find a new source. I'm sure you meant well, but I have no idea how trustworthy you are to make a change based on your word here.

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I'll check Flickr and my own personal pics, but it may have to wait until I can do a road trip, after the snow melts and the trees start to flower. -

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which is clearly related (and is on the table per all the support votes even though the RM nomination itself hasn't been formally changed). Also re

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article and indicating that because they weren't secret they weren't a cabal; more misrepresentation, more misdirection, it's one of their hallmarks.

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at present, there's no telling how long – or short! – the wait might be). If you'd got any TFA-related questions or problems, please let me know.

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it yet, it's being held in preview and I may just link to it on the ANI - which I don't have the stomach or patience to bother reading right now.

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yesterday or the day before, and am exploring for others that are only redirects or have no significant primarytopic disputes, as does perhaps

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tonight and got some chuckles; I'd gone there because JorisV changed the subject re my description of his group as a CABAL by pointing to the

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gotten to Haida people first. Bella Bella, Bella Coola, Saanich and others deemed "no consensus" because of people interloping who are not

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I've done the best I can here to be clear, given the lack of awareness of Canadian topics and dab standards/usages, but right now I'm a

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to FA status recently. If you would like to see this (or any other FA) appear as "Today's featured article" soon, please nominate it at

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Thank you, long standing contributor, historian and composer, for your contributions to quality articles on Canadian highways such as

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and accompanying category and templates; it got deleted as POV/Spam/COI though others have since emerged and I've moved to the new

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This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period.

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Hi, just gonna copy paste what I just put on Hwy43's talkpage; 'nuff said, other than this needing attention from responsible,

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I use what the sources say, dude. And instead of striking out text, fix it if you feel it's wrong. Again, featured article. -

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if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the

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hostility towards my writing style and allegations about my personality, to stay away from higher levels of the adminship.

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Quantitative assessment vs qualitative meaning is a bugbear to me; that many characters is only 1500 words, not a book.

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I saw the header at first... some of my "friends" "affectionately" refer to me as Smeagle so I lol'd. Thank you :) -

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used by the tribal council they belong to; that has since changed to the Wuikinuxv form; CONSISTENCY indicates that

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in 1998. The final link was officially opened by a World War I veteran and local officials on September 23, 1999. (

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is a more well-known name but those others are current in English especially when older citations are excluded;

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of me from resulting in me being driven from Knowledge (XXG) by the "NCL Cabal". Something could be said about

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is how my help is received. I guess it is true that you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.

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is it the primary topic, not just by being "FOO Whatever" but also not borne out by view stats/googles....

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puts that answer to shame. This should be all the land/water data you'll ever need for North America. –

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is somehow lost on the people claiming that the old name is still more important than the town-usage.

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the dominant use, for various reasons, apply in addition to the reasons already given in the RM.

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You asked me last week where I got a shapefile for Lake of the Woods and I gave you an answer.

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Knowledge (XXG)'s guidelines about hatnotes that link to articles that are related to the topic

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at the Lillooet RM is not similar to the helping you help yourself situation at Bella Bella.

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More could be said about flouting TITLE and rampant/hypocritical indulgences of CIVIL and AGF

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Thank you for doing such great work on articles relating to Canadian roads. I have nominated

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Commons:Commons:Administrators' noticeboard#Massive restoration of deleted images by the URAA

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Whoa! These are crazy... I may not have to trace Highway 17 for 2000 km now! Thank you :) -

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My other project is to try and codify "the old consensus" re IPNA-related titles, which

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writing. Shed off the excess weight and get your point across in one swift blow. -

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http://www.urbantoronto.ca/database/projects/forensic-services-and-coroners-complex

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YOu may be able to be constructive, as you were before at Lillooet and elsewhere,

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the pattern and repetitive meaningless of the "oppose" campaign that you nail here

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is full of false assertions and original research and is very much a closed club.

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List yourself as a participant in the WikiProject, by adding your username here:

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informed and thoughtful content. I will refrain from further critiques of this

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with the stats. With any luck, the Lillooet RM will sway them to move along. -

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Isn't the URAA a topic you are interested in? Then you might be interested in

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In some cases I might have left it that way, yes. In this case, however, we

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I haven't had time to build similar categories/lists for other groups like

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please note the RM with the same kind of primarytopic disputatiousness at

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even though they can't produce the stats or search results to confirm that

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Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article

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is named after Felix Hanlon, who helped cut the first tree to inaugurate

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One big disarray that I can see right now, which may assist, is between

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User:Wavelength/Miscellaneous information/Noetica#Complications with ly

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Found this quote while teaching my ESL client today, from Mark Twain:

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I was a bit stunned to see these closed without moving this morning,

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BDD has been closing/moving nearly all of those proposed so far, but

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has only 293 watchers! Like voting in Canada, many unheard voices. -

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Suffice to say that the town is 98% Heiltsuk and is governed by the

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now, too, but it's a sunny day in Koh Samui and I do have a life....

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Tag relevant talk pages of articles and other relevant pages using

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Category:Featured articles that have not appeared on the main page

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of 57 kilometres (35 mi) of Highway 16 New—a two-lane expressway

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to your userpage, which lists you as a member of the WikiProject.

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Knowledge (XXG) talk:Manual of Style#Mid to late or mid-to-late?

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discussion that led to it (a "unanimous vote" as he puts it of

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Another RM where IDONTLIKEIT is getting inane in its opposition

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Your use of the view results from grok.se has proven useful at

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There are some issues that need some attention in the review.--

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despite the failure just a few days before that of the one at

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Knowledge (XXG):Today's featured article/requests/instructions

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also remains unclosed despite ample evidence of PRIMARYTOPIC.

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have a two-item dab — because there's also the community in

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are also at variance with the new orthographic standard per

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I'd like to extend a cordial invitation to you to join the

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which are combinations of RDs for economic-data purposes;

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Just a quick note to congratulate you on the promotion of

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Despite evidence, two now close "no consensus, not moved"

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thank you for your sane response to the issues at that RM

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if you object to the listing for any reason. Thank you.

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where the longstanding indigenous people's title was at

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Why i put a strike through on my edit on the Highway 401

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and the Heiltsuk-Oowekyala titles should be changed to

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has another one though that move seems to have support

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Knowledge (XXG):Today's featured article/March 23, 2014

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Template:Did you know nominations/Hanlon Expressway

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