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Knowledge. There are numerous other pages I have come across that barely have a couple of lines and yet they have been approved by a so-called reviewer. Please carry out some research yourself about SystemHouse33 before you decide to just take it down. I don't think an article I took all day to write and numerous weeks to research for should be rejected by ONE reviewer. How can I be sure that said reviewer is not biased?! Thanks, Komal
2388:. Every statement is a summary of what a reliable source(s) has to say about the band. If there are good sources for something then say it and add the inline citation, rather than referring to the newspaper or the journal etc and using lost of quotes. There are exceptions of course but generally just make the statement and supply the source. The other problem you have is that the tone is overtly promotional. This is because you have written about a topic you are passionate about, then added sources. The result is paragraphs with lots of POV language, quotes from the band themselves (see
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banner of Hum TV which is one of the biggest entertainment channels in
Pakistan. they have also featured with Pakistan's top model Mathira. Their souncloud's plays are reaching at their peaks. They are going to be signed with Pakistan's biggest record label EMI. Are these things not notable as stated by you??? Please re-review the whole article and help me out to improve its contents. Thanks
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It seemed like there were two different places to ask for the second review of my article. Please direct me. Here is what I posted on the other page to which I was directed. Thanks for the feedback on the first draft of the article. This is my first submission to
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The article which I created refers to the band which is emerging as a mainstream sensation now a days. Their music videos are now playing on different music channels not only in
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Dear Flat Out, Thanks so much for reviewing my draft:Asep_Kambali. Yeah, that is my first article :") I just learning wikipedia for develop my writing skill. Please help and advice me to write with better. I dont understand how wikipedia works, so I wish you will be my mentor ini here? Best regards,
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Hi, I am requesting a re-review because I feel the article does show the notability of the subject. I was hoping you could reference a live article on wikipedia "Michael Kitces" who is of a similar background/notability as my subject. That article was approved as notable. Thank you very much for your
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Hi, I was the one who created the page SystemHouse33. This band has been around for more than 11 years, got reviews from top Indian newspapers, Rolling Stone magazine (India) wrote an article on them, and there are numerous online webzines and blogs that have interviewed the band members and written
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Hi Flat Out, Last month you denied my submission on a page for 360 Finance on the grounds that it reads a lot like advertising. Thanks so much for the feedback, I've been going back over it since to try and improve it - I was wondering if it's possible if you have any more feedback or advice on how
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Hello I understand that I have made quite a few mistakes while creating the page that you have declined. I will edit the page and make it sound more neutral without any peacock terms and use more reliable sources. Could you help me with the bit where it needs to written in a formal tone expected of
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could you please sign your talk page posts using the four tildes ~~~~. Now to your draft, you have written a little piece in your own words rather than summarising the key points that have been covered in reliable sources. Every statement you make int he article needs to be support with a reliable
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Hi, I was wondering why this page was declined? You have just written that it can be improved, but what exactly don't you like about it? Before it lacked references, but that has been updated. Unfortunately there wasn't a tone of media coverage for this series, so it is difficult to find any more
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I'm afraid I have only just discovered that way back on 8 September an email arrived from you, and went into my spam folder. I don't know why that was: it doesn't look like spam to me. Right now I don't have time to check it, and if it's too late to do anything about it, I can only say I'm sorry.
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Hi Flat Out, I appreciate your comments but I am still a little stuck to know how to move forward. The criteria you refer to is. If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list.
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Hello- Thank you for your recent (and original) feedback, it made things clearer for me. I figured out how to put the web links right in the footnote section rather than duplicated in the external links section. That looks much cleaner, thanks. I think that and your original request for more
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included a link to another newspaper that reported on the annual meeting of memebers of the group, including and interview and photographs. I am not entirely sure what else you require, could you offer soem guidance please. The group currently has 253 members from across the globe. Danny
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Hi Flat Out. Thanks for your comment regarding the article being way too long. I'm fairly new to wiki editing, but would the use of collapsible tables be a preferred alteration, at least for the larger tables, to reduce the length of the article? Open to any other ideas also. Cheers.
2004:- thanks for the question. My issue is the tone of the article. It reads like a press release with sources added after the fact. rather than a summary of key points raised by reliable sources. If you are unhappy with my review please feel free to request another opinin from
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Hello, I submit the mydiveo page for review and it was declined and I wanted to know what I should do or how I should edit it in order for it to be accepted. I also wanted to know if there was a way to fix the title of "mydiveo" to make all letters lowercase. Thank you.
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Hello Flat Out..do appreciate your help. I have attempted to make the changes you have pointed out. Are the brief quotes from the industry experts in the second to the last paragraph allowable? If not, is there a way to convey their POV that is allowable? Michael
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1765:. This is the only guy who is a singer, dancer and a stunt rider all at once from his place. He is famous in Dubai, Saudi Arabic and places in the middle east. People love him and wanna know about him. Thank you.
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