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380:] This article has a banner at the top stating there is an issue with balance. An editor removed a long standing part of the introduction which further created problems with balance. It had not been discussed on the Talk Page. Am I not entitled to revert such a major and controversial edit?" Yet I got no reply; only a message telling me I'd been indefinitely blocked. Blocked for what? For asking when I can and cannot revert an edit. An edit that was done without having achieved a consensus! Please could somebody independently look at this. I didn't even do any editing on Knowledge (XXG) yesterday. All I did was ONE legitimate revert the day before. 119: 784: 289: 22: 225: 801:. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Knowledge (XXG). If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Knowledge (XXG) (see 734:
You are wikilawyering here and its unlikely to get a positive response. I've seen a lot of people getting banned by arguing detail when the overall behavioural pattern is seen as problematic. Thats where you are so accepting a self ban on reverts and mentoring is (in my opinion) one of the few ways
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on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit
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was made while you were already under notice for edit warring, and without you having made any response to the noticeboard complaint. You seem to feel that your confidence that you are right is enough to justify making any number of reverts, with no reference to the opinions of others. Your block
199:] This article has a banner at the top stating there is an issue with balance. An editor removed a long standing part of the introduction which further created problems with balance. It had not been discussed on the Talk Page. Am I not entitled to revert such a major and controversial edit? 633:
Just an idea - agree a voluntary bad on any reverts for three months as a gesture of good behaviour. Agree to propose them on the talk page and allow other editors to act (or not to act). I'm sure a few of us would be happy to mentor you if Ed would buy into that as a solution.
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policy. For example, "Am I not entitled to revert such a major and controversial edit?" In this case, no you are not. You are expected to wait for consensus. By this time, your ignorance of the edit warring policy doesn't deserve much sympathy.
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I am sincerely sorry that I keep getting things wrong. I find knowing when to revert and when not to such a minefield. I regularly have edits reverted, so didn't realise the danger of reverting. Please could you reconsider this ban. Thank you
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might be lifted if we were sure you would behave differently in the future, but after six previous blocks your credibility is low. In your above unblock request you ask questions that could easily be answered if you had read the
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Shouldn't you have explained this when I asked what I'm entitled to do and what I'm not; instead of blocking me in spite of me having done NO further edits. I'd only asked for help. I did no more edits, yet I was blocked.
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At 15:48, 17 September 2018 you then said on my Talk Page (above) "You've continued to revert the article while making no response... You have a chance to avoid this if you will promise to change your approach. Thank
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I can see what I've been doing wrong all along. I had thought that controversial edits could be reverted regardless of the number of them. I can't believe how stupid I've been by not being fully aware of the
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Apologies for keep getting things wrong. I'm not always able to respond quickly (due to work) and I made a deliberate decision to not do any more edits or reverts precisely because of the warning.
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At 03:17, 18 September 2018 I was suddenly blocked even though I HAD made a response, I had asked about reverts and I had done NO more edits at all. I honestly thought I had done what was needed.
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At 18:39, 17 September 2018 I DID indeed respond stating "Can you tell me what on earth I am entitled to do and what I'm not... Am I not entitled to revert such a major and controversial edit?"
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and were given a chance to answer it, but you didn't do so. At any point in this process you could have stopped and asked for advice. You are not a beginner at this edit warring business.
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It is hard to see how some of those were reverts not covered by (for example) BLP. Moreover it is hard to see how making one edit well after 24 hours if an edit war breach.
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I'm not involved in an edit war. I'm involved in protecting an article. Editors are entitled to revert edits. Especially edits that have not been discussed and agreed.
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You've continued to revert the article while making no response. Study of your block log shows a lot of past problems including a six month block, suggesting you were
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template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired.
470:#7 explains what reverts are exceptions under the BLP policy. Unsourced defamation is an example. The reverts in question here were mostly in the area of 474:
where all the information is sourced but editor consensus is required to determine if a balanced summary is being provided. Reverting in the service of
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You've stated that "At any point in this process you could have stopped and asked for advice." Please would you look again at the sequence of events.
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So the block was for the edit whilst I was under notice for edit warring. Sorry, I didn't realise it was as serious as this. Apologies once again.
45: 36:. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the 430: 246: 270: 150: 29: 324: 37: 555:
At 15:36, 17 September 2018 you said "I'm planning to issue one final warning, and if no response, will consider an indef block."
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closely; I would advise any future unblock request to have some sort of pledge such as a self-imposed 1RR restriction.
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Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the
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for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant
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Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at
602: 523: 483: 416: 278: 184: 162: 172: 406:. What do I see? Revert, revert, revert, revert, revert, revert, revert. You need to look at our 467: 760: 709: 664: 612: 573: 497: 454: 381: 307: 200: 135: 98: 87: 273:. As explained above, this is a long term problem and there is not much hope for the future. 439: 252: 705: 515: 475: 471: 146: 821: 694: 598: 533: 519: 492: 479: 411: 375: 274: 194: 180: 179:. You have a chance to avoid this if you will promise to change your approach. Thank you, 158: 700: 407: 74: 374:
I wrote yesterday "Can you tell me what on earth I am entitled to do and what I'm not
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from editing for Long term pattern of edit warring. No understanding of consensus.
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is not excused from revert-counting under 3RR; you still need to wait for consensus.
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among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See
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At 15:02, 17 September 2018 I did my very last edit and made no more edits.
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If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the
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Indeed this edit still stands; it was even reinstated by another editor.
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and promise to wait for consensus before editing the article again.
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Can you tell me what on earth I am entitled to do and what I'm not
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regarding a possible violation of Knowledge (XXG)'s policy on
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If you want to make any further unblock requests, please
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Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
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I've proposed you should now be indefinitely blocked
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Index

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Antisemitism in the UK Labour Party
edit war
talk page
consensus
BRD
noticeboard
dispute resolution
page protection
blocked from editing
three-revert rule
reverts
Icewhiz
talk
06:55, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
Garageland66
talk
07:05, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
Knowledge (XXG):Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring
edit warring
Icewhiz
talk
08:16, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
WP:3RR
Antisemitism in the UK Labour Party
the AN3 complaint
EdJohnston
talk
03:36, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
WP:NOTHERE

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