User talk:Happy-melon/Archive 6

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and ombox into one "other namespaces" box, to leave us with just ambox, tmbox and ombox. Imbox in particular contains a number of special features that are bespoke to the image namespace (like a whole new type!) that would by this amalgamation be propagated to all other namespaces... featured help page, anyone? Similarly, ombox contains code (the small option, for instance), that should not be available in the image namespace. I do happen to like each and every one of the styles we have, which seems to be something of a rarity, but that is just a personal preference and could easily be replicated even if the templates were merged. The main problem is that each mbox template is subtly different, each having its own quirks and foibles, and so merging them is a very complicated task that would result in single template that is more complicated, more bulky in terms of code length and processing time, and can't be so easily modified (since every time we wanted to change anything in one namespace we would have to be careful to check that nothing's broken in other incarnations). All in all, a system IMO inferior to what we have at the moment.

6095:- are there any examples of image pages where such functionality would be genuinely useful? I'm not aware of any; ditto for category pages. The small code is probably the most complicated and messy part of the entire mbox structure, which is why it hasn't been propagated to other mbox templates. I think the only merger that would make any technical sense would be ombox/cmbox, but even then there are a few oddities (different default images, for instance), and there are probably enough people who like the more vibrant coloured backgrounds in an otherwise incredibly dull namespace enough to make it difficult to attain a consensus for such a change. While the road to get to this position certainly hasn't been smooth, I think the way the mbox series is laid out at the moment is probably, bar a few details (like the type names in your original thread), about as effective and efficient as we can make it. 6167:, etc) and passes all the parameters it is given to that template. So each namespace uses exclusively one metatemplate to render its boxes; in some cases, however, there is mbox in the middle directing the code flow to the right template. We have considered a variety of ways of making templates change appearances based on namespace. We have found that this 'flow control' template is the most efficient and clean solution; other implementations which combined functionality into one template were complicated, messy and much less efficient. It's quite simply cleaner and more elegant to use separate templates. The point is not that such things 1248:, so I think you're incorrect that manually removing a category tag invokes a delay. Delays come when the page is modified without editing it directly; editing templates is the most common and are caught by the job queue, changes in conditionals are more subtle and can take up to 30 days to clear, IIRC. So for 99% of the time, the limiting factor is the length of the job queue, which is usually quite reasonable these days. It's often not even correct to say that they'll be delayed "for a few hours" as it can be almost instantaneous. I'd rather have some more general message, perhaps linking as you say to a more detailed explanation. 1286:

think the time we state in the message should be long enough that users almost never experience a delay longer than we state. Since they don't get worried if things happen faster than we say. And currently it often does take some hours before a subcategory is removed from a category list, so some hours is true. I have seen it happen several times this week, even though I did visit the subcategory pages and even purged them. And during some of those days (nights really) the job queue was as low as 175.

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already gave the "messagebox" class the same top and bottom margin as the tmbox class so talk page message boxes with the different classes look good together, when not inside a bannershell. I think I know how to do the same for the width. That is, I can make it so banners that use the "messagebox" class also become 100% wide when inside an mbox-inside area. (And also use the other "nested-talk" settings.) I presume that would be neat, right?

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not going to do that (ie, if you're going to write "on A, do this whole box code, else on B, do this whole other box code") then what's the point of merging them at all? The only valid reason to merge templates is to remove duplication; either we remove the duplication and end up putting huge #switch: statements on just about every other line, or we keep the template codes separate and don't actually remove the duplication at all.

642: 4716: 1381:. I am not sure what you state there about the templates is correct. As I have understood it a page doesn't get re-rendered until someone visits it. So an unvisited page can remain uncategorised indefinitely. But as you partly state there, it isn't always enough just to visit the page, sometimes we have to edit the page for it to categorise. But I might be wrong, since when we added the detection to 4876:- this is slightly more complicated than, but very similar to, the other notes. However it would be more elegant to use just one note, and an inverted #switch statement to control the display. Give me a shout if you want me to explain further. Unfortunately it is only possible to specify images to go in the left column; the option to at least not display anything is one I must work on. 6365:

boxes' the workings of which they don't fully understand. Then again, I wouldn't say that I'm completely divorced from that perspective: the geo- and flag-templates are just as incomprehensible to me as I assume they are to you! All in all, it's an exercise in collaboration, just like everything else on-wiki. Which is really a fantastic life skill... maybe I should put it on my CV

6310:), just strip off that first 't' and you suddenly have a template that will seamlessly switch from one implementation to another when you move it around. All the features used by the main xmbox template for that namespace automagically become available when you move into that namespace, and disappear equally magically to avoid cluttering up other namespaces. What more do you want? 6355:. Seriously though, I'm glad you're willing to change your mind; it indicates that you're a reasonable person. A lot of this stuff certainly isn't obvious at first glance and on first appearances it might well look counterintuitive. You're quite right to bring up such 'issues' when you see them as it's impossible to tell on the surface which parts have been carefully 1904:. Db-g8 does not include pages which are useful to the project. It does take a little while to determine whether a sandbox is no longer useful to the project. Rather than force the deleting admin to take the time research whether a sandbox is no longer useful to the project, Db-g8 should include an optional "rationale=" parameter similar to that of 3300:, which was active for a while. My view (shaped by that experience, and a general impression) is that WikiProjects and GA reviewers are looking for different things, which is why I think it makes more sense to keep GA requirements separate from WikiProject assessments. Neither group has the experience needed to apply the other group's criteria. 1132:. I know by experience that users who are new to the category system gets very confused when they add or remove a category to a page and they don't see the change on the category page. They then tend to do multiple edits to the article or even the category page to try to force the change, and that is a bad thing. 6539:

into a third. That's very much a separate discussion. I don't agree that the three examples you give are easily or even plausibly confused, and the distinction would be more clear in other namespaces, not less, as full coloured borders would be employed. So I'm not really convinced by your argument, I'm afraid.

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Hello there. Just to try and link from the West End theatre article to a few more theatre schools that offer dance and theatre training, I played with a list on the article, but someone keeps reverting it insisting I'm not providing an adequate criteria for notability or something. Individually the

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which would take time to decache; by the time the rule was usable, we'd probably be well on the way to deploying the new banners anyway. Of course if you can think of a cleverer solution that can be used immediately, I'd love to see it, as it would allow us to break up a quite major change into more

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I don't want any problems to start arising because of me, so, I will remove the the secondary school info., as you stated, for its trivial usage in the lead. Momentarily, I will remove the suggestions you left above. Also, is there anything else in the lead that stands out that shouldn't be included?

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I've fixed the 'basic topics' link - it was just a simple brace position error. None of the parameters allow suppression - they simply allow alternative targets to be specified for the links. The display of the link is dependent on whether or not the target page exists, so links can be 'suppressed'

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By the way, I am currently running a test with a category that automatically should categorise itself into another category, when it itself gets pages in its list. The test has been running for over three days now without the subcategory turning up in its mother category. Of course, what I am testing

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TfD is not a vote, it is a balanced discussion of the issues surrounding a template. In most cases, each contributor brings new points and arguments to the discussion, so the strength of argument on each side is roughly proportional to the number of contributors supporting each side. In other cases

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The conclusions you draw may prove to be correct, but because you have pre-empted the process I was trying to start, we will never know. By creating a separate template, we can let it develop separately, and see how its use evolves by consensus. Then we can consider whether it should remain separate,

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I'll be the first to agree that the help pages we have on templates and parser functions are, in the main, utterly crap. Not to say that there aren't some gems in there, but they're buried under so much repetition, poor explanation and technobabble that it's no wonder no one gets anything useful out

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Hi Happy-melon. I noticed that you have removed the "mbox-inside" class from the bannershells, and I see why. However that made me think a little about how to do a smooth transition. As far as I understand most banners still use the "messagebox" class and when "nested=yes" they use "nested-talk". We

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Hi. Thanks for your note. I'm actually not sure that you were responsible for the problem, since it went away when I restored a previous version of my monobook.js file, and stayed away when I updated that file to be the equivalent of my old file. I assumed that meant that the problem was a munged

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Throughout the sections I read, I noticed a rather fragmented syntax: there are a lot of quite short and simple sentences. Again, reading existing FAs is the best way to see what you're aiming for: in the majority of cases, sentences in FAs are multi-clausal, containing several related ideas. It's

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That's exactly what I would have done. Perhaps a link to the template that was created during the TfD for genuine historic photos would be helpful (I can't remember what it was called, and unfortunately don't have time to look it up). In a few weeks time, it can be redirected to one of the deletion

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Sure, that is a very imprecise statement. But I think that is enough to make people relax and understand that they don't need to do a lot of dummy edits to make things update. Since they expect immediate updates, and when they don't see that they think something is wrong. But if they are told it can

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yet? This template is built for purpose. We don't want to have "See Hollywood Freeway" because it confuses peole when one highway collides with two number. The problem of duplicating the exit list is outdting when people will update one list but not the others, that's why we thouhgt about building a

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Indeed that's not a hack, doing "on A, do X, else on B, do Y, else on C, do Z, now do something regardless, now on A, do X, else on B, do Y, else on C, do Z, now do something else, then on A, do X, else on B, do Y, else on C, do Z, now do something, etc etc etc" is very messy indeed. And if you're

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Yes, but we already have templates which note when they're in the talk-space, so I would presume that the cosmetic "look" of talkspace boxes wouldn't be much of an issue to implement? (Though I can definitely see the concern about adding "one more if statement, and another, and another, etc." : ) -

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If you follow the link, you will see that the MfD is a bulk nomination of pages in a variety of namespaces, including categories, templates and project pages. As such, it made more sense to treat the whole lot with one deletion debate than to have separate XfDs for each topic. I'd encourage you to

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Two more points. I think in addition to mainspace, FR can be enabled over portal namespace. Then a trial can be conducted over several popular portals (Contents, currently semi-protected). And for the trial it seems excessive to have two groups (reviewers and flaggers); they can be merged into one.

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I am not certain about conditional inclusions (eg inclusion based on timestamp, or based on {{PAGESINCATEGORY}}, which I suspect you're using); it may be that these do represent a 'hole' in the category update system, requiring either viewing or editing to rerender - I'll be interested to learn the

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There's no situation whereby the category link will never be updated; even if a template conditionally includes a category by timestamp, the worst-case scenario, the link will be parsed when the page's server cache expires (not the rendered squid cache, a deeper one); IIRC anyway. Editing any page

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I am trying to get some styles in the box to decrease font sizes. Where would they go in relation to the new sections? I would really like to have the fonts after the heading to be at 90%, but I have tried putting int a "style="font-size: 90%;" comment in about every conceivable location and all it

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That is exactly what I wanted. Yeah, Happy-Melon! The problem is that the I am unfamiliar with the parser function and after reading the help section, still am unfamiliar with the parser functions. I am more of the demonstrate it to me, then I will do it myself type of learning. I find it easier to

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template for switching between structures it really is counterproductive unless the intent is to fully replace two structures with one. So merging ombox and cmbox only makes sense if we also wish to unify the two styles, either deprecating one in favour of the other, or merging them both together

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Hmmm... I don't really think that the type names are much of a hindrance to merging mbox types, since they're standardised across the whole set. I would be opposed to merging mbox types, for a variety of reasons. Of the five 'namepsace' mbox template, I assume you'd advocate merging imbox, cmbox

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It looks fine, although you forgot to create two of the categories (to be fair, I only added the code to prompt you to create them this morning :D). Oh also, there's no need to keep making trivial edits to keep bringing up the 'new messages' banner; if you want to ask something, just ask, I won't

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points. The current lead takes the article body and distils it while preserving the balance of the article. So you have one paragraph about early life, one about early work, one about later work. That's not necessary. His secondary school is trivial in comparison to details of what he's famous

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Hi Happy-melon, listen, is there anyway you can scrutinize the "writing" in Aaron Eckhart's article? The reason I ask, is since, I'm trying to aim the article to FA status and I got an oppose saying that the article needs to be "scrutinized" by someone who's new to the article. I was hoping if you

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Pages are "no longer useful to the project" for different reasons. The rationale= parameter allows the deleting nominator to provide some explanation and links that help establish that the page is no longer useful to the project, making it easier for the deleting admin to make their decision. If a

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to allow the deletion requestor to make their case as to why the page no longer is useful. I've been using the edit summary for this, but I'm not sure whether anyone see it. I saw your name on the Template:Db doc edits and you seem to know how to modify it. To give the deleting admin more tools on

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Note that my suggested message says "occasionally delayed", not "usually delayed", so the message is correct. And my point with the message text is that people expect that things happens immediately, so they get worried when that doesn't happen and waste time and resources to try to fix it. Thus I

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Right, under some circumstances when category names are added by a template it can literally take forever until the page gets listed. (Until the next time that page is edited, which can mean months or even years.) And right, when you manually add a category name to an article page or a subcategory

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marks outside the statements if you want, in fact, but I think it's cleaner to hide them to). Plus one little trick for circumventing the whitespace-stripping from parser functions (that HTML character I added to each line is a hardcoded space (which can't be stripped) meaning that the newline is

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Yes. Whether we had them in one template or five, the cleanest, most efficient and most convenient way to code them is to keep them as entirely separate structures. Given that, what's the point of including all the code for all five structures on every page, when only a fraction of that code is

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the three questions that are most important: what flags are we going to have, how do we assign the lower group, and how do we assign the upper group? These three questions need answers before we can start a trial, because we have to be testing a proposed solution. So I'd say we need to take this

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Oh, my apologies, I can honestly say "I didn't see you there"! You have had the unfortunate bad luck to have all three of your posts closely followed by other edits to this page, and never when I'm actually online. As such, I've consistently overlooked your comments thinking that the other edits

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Greetings again! Question on the aforementioned category - doesn't seem to be working correctly as of 9/29/08. I doubt that your adding the new header had anything to do with it; however, given the guru you are with these type of oddball problems, thought I'd bring it to your expertise! :) I'd

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Ah well. I will not revert your edits to the MediaWiki messages. Instead now that you and I are aware of this issue we can keep an eye on what happens with category listings when we add and remove pages and subcategories in different ways, and soon we will probably know better how it really works

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Are you sure that the page is parsed when the server cache expires? I thought it was only parsed when it was re-rendered if someone then visits the page. Some odd pages like a redirected category or an unused image might not be visited for ages and thus "never" re-render. You can read about usage

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I've noticed that when editors focus on the unsupported/subjective/arbitrary they usually are dealing with ILIKEIT/IDONTLIKEIT. But for me, the biggest issues of unsupported/subjective/arbitrary that I tend to face are IWANTIT/IDONTWANTIT. Usually do to an underlying fear of some kind. (The most

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poorly-designed to the uninitiated: it's often the case that the most elegant way to test a complicated condition or implement a particular idea looks confusing or counterintuitive; similarly it's always nice to have some feedback on how the systems we create look to those who see them as 'black

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contains a number of parameters that I'm not convinced are actually used - if they're not, they're just cluttering up and complicating the code. I added a tracking category to determine whether they're being used anywhere: if the're not, or they're very uncommon and don't do much, I will remove

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I'm still unconvinced as to the merits of a specific timescale; in the majority of cases, except where thousands of pages are involved, updates take only a few minutes; while in rare cases (like when we had the server clock error) they can fall days or weeks behind. Better, in my opinion, to be

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templates should not be used to highlight rapidly-changing pages to the readership, in which case it is difficult if not impossible to argue that another template shoudl be allowed to do exactly that. There is no situation, in my mind, where dividing the functions of the template is the correct

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Other than imbox (which covers the double task of licenses, and really shouldn't be merged with anything as it currently exists), the differences of the others appears to be mostly cosmetic. (Unless there is something about tmbox that I'm missing?) And so yes, I believe the rest could be merged

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I wanted to change the message to be more clear that it's categories added by templates that take time to update, but I couldn't think of a concise enough wording or find a good place to put it. Category links added directly to articles update instantly, as the page is rerendered for its first

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a requirement to use every piece of punctuation available in the English language, but you should be thinking about how you can combine sentences together; by replacing several simple phrases with fewer more complicated ones, you improve the depth and texture of the prose and make it both more

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Certainly - I've had a quick skim of the whole article and read the lead and first section carefully, and already have many comments to make. Firstly the lead: the lead section is not supposed to be an abridged version of the rest of the article; it is supposed to be a "concise version". The

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I'm afraid it looks unlikely to ever gain support, even for a short period. The probability of a design involving such an esoteric feature ever making it to the main page is, unfortunately, even more remote - there are probably accessibility issues to consider, as well as the question of what

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whenever it is appropriate in order to provide new users with the most up-to-date information on available adopters. Also please note that we will be removing adopters who have not edited in 60 days. If you become active again (and we hope you do!) please feel free to re-add yourself. Cheers!

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to expand if there is consensus to do so, not where the assumption is for extension unless "the trials are unsuccessful". As such, there are a number of further restrictions that could and should be made. You should also avoid including copies of the default settings; only settings that are

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the same tweaks as used on imbox) and has, of course, the extremely deeply-ingrained coffeeroll background. I doubt you'll gain much support for changing the talkspace messageboxes to anything without that famous brown background. Good call, I think, on keeping this separate from the main

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TfD, I would have liked to consult with you about how to further proceed with the necessary cleanup, but seeing as you've just gone on wiki-vacations I've boldly gone ahead and turned the template into a warning message outlining the need for review. I've given a notification at WP:AN here

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Which "enduser" are you talking about? If you mean wikipedia readers, keeping the templates separate reduces the amount of code their browsers are forced to download and the time taken for the MediaWiki parser to process the page. If you mean people who code 'simple' templates, than yes,

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doesn't have an assessment scheme; I've been looking around, and there are a number of articles about majorly notable toys that have no assessment with any wikiproject. As this will keep them off of any future WP releases, would it be appropriate to add an assessment to that template?

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OK, that is your opinion, and I respect that. However, I still feel that you should have stated your opinion as a commenter, not a closer on the debate. Yes it is supposed to be a balanced discussion, but by closing it definitively with only two comments, the result is hardly balanced.

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I would like to ask that you reconsider your deletion decision. Aside from no support for delete other than the nom, your assumption/assertion that was the basis for your decision was incorrect. The {{tl:current}} template has been kept to a narrow scope (primarilly by the nom). The

1121:. Updates to the category lists still can take some hours. Especially updates to the subcategorie lists. It seems updates of the subcategories run as a lower priority task than the updates of the pages. And removal of pages and subcategories are delayed much more than additions. 1429:

only rerendered when viewed; the job queue thread rerenders them internally and updates the squid cache as well as all the database tables. What tests I have done do not support the idea of removals taking more time than additions, or of subcategory updates being particularly

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And I think we do need to give a time frame. Since the newbies have no idea of what the proper time frame is, so they might think it should take tops some minutes and get worried when it takes more than that. The newbies have no way of knowing, so we need to give them an

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might have to be re-thought, since the previous text was more appropriate. (Refers to 'substitution or omission of a colon' without saying what it was replaced by. A 'Whatlinkshere' of the template shows a variety of other occurrences which also aren't right. Thanks,

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right now, with the banners collapsed, I only see the banner for the Video games project as full-width inside the banner shell. The Chicago and Illinois banners are half-width inside the banner shell, with the Illinois banner slightly smaller than the Chicago one.

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No technical issues with this, and it's likely a good idea, but if a long rationale is required to show how something is obviously unneeded it likely isn't obvious. Most cases where this would be useful could just as easily be taken to MfD. Cheers, everyone.

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accept? For instance, if I wanted to set note 1 to "D:TNG" so that the template would show "This article is primary related to the Degrassi: The Next Generation series.", could I set up a note 2, note 3 and note 4 for the other series in the franchise? Thanks,

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Mmmm, that edit was following on from the proposed policy change to standardise what we replace colons with when they're in invalid positions: I had originally suggested semicolons, but I'm coming round to the conclusion that a hyphen is actually better.

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For example the debate at MfD would be instantly resolved. All deletion templates get the pink shading, with speedy getting the bold border all the way aound. QED. (And interestingly enough, this "style" is how several of the XfD templates were in the

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I'll take a look. I'll post a note on the project's page first; it seems kind of sleepy, so maybe no one will care. ;) Still, getting it set up and leaving it for others to deal with may be better than never having it there in the first place...

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Yes, WPBannerMeta was recently modified to include the listas functionality by default; it's just that BTGProject was converted to use the metatemplate before the code was added to the parameter list. I've modified the banner to pass through the

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in the edit summary doesn't really work). I've been stuck on figuring out how to fix this for about a month now, and I'd really appreciate it if you could, like, swoop in and save the day (or something like that). End tongue-in-cheek. Cheers.

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Someone has a question regarding the unassessed-class category and WPBannerMeta. Since you seem to maintain WPBannerMeta would you mind throwing in your two cents. I don't want to wade in and try to fix it only to make matters even worse. See

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I'll I can say is "d'oh", that was painfully simple. Thanks for the heads up, I am trying to create a "build a WikiProject" templates to ease the creation of WikiProject pages. Too many of them look like the old personal web pages from the 90s.

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Hmmm... I'm not sure about portals, the Featured Portals make their own nice closed set to extend the test to, but every extension made makes it more difficult to obtain the consensus to proceed. I think that we have yet again brushed over on

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parameter which distinguishes between pages created by the process and pages used by the process. This affects not only the message on the banner but the category of the page as well. When you tried to convert this last time, you depopulated

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Hi, Happy-melon. I may start a TfD to delete those "/new" CSD templates soon. If you, as one of the contributors to the templates, indicate that you prefer to keep them, I might not start the TfD. If you have comments please post them at

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Anyway, back on topic (somewhat anyway), I still think that cmbox and ombox, at the very least should be merged. The main difference is that one is for those who liked the shading on the "other namespaces", and the other doesn't have the

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way of collapsing banners inside WPBS, but that'll have to wait. So now it (sometimes) looks a bit odd when you have WPBM banners and normal banners together inside WPBS. Can you tell me if you see anything wierd in the shell at say,

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I have set up four templates to ease in building project pages for the WP Food and Drink pages. I have set up some definable fields for colors, but want to have a default set if the user chooses not to define them. Could you help me?

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Notwithsatnding this, your closing of a debate with only two comments by casting what is in effect a tie-breaking vote is problematic, and probably won't withstand a DRV. So I still request that you reconsider your closing decision.

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Hey Happy-melon, I've updated my Main Page Redesign proposal substantially, and you had some really great points last time you commented - hopefully you'll see the effects of your suggestions. It would be great if you could comment

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was an example article I took and tried to work with Eckhart's article. But, will take your suggestions with other FA actor articles. Thank you for taking the time in giving additional suggestions for the article's improvement. :)

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be a good place to ask? What I'm looking for is to figure out if there are a certain core set of style guidelines pages that just about everyone thinks of as helpful and inoffensive, roughly along the lines of the 6 mentioned at

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You wrote $ wgAddGroups = 'reviewer'; $ wgRemoveGroups = 'reviewer';, but you probably meant 'editor' not 'reviewer'? Reviewer is too serious to be granted by sysops like rollback. In addition, can sysops +reviewer themselves?

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yesterday but didn't get a response. It the absence of feedback I figured that re-adding it the change would either pass without objection or initiate a discussion. tl;dr: not being disruptive, sorry if it looked that way.

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And it has the added benefit of the templates standing out even more from the wall-o-cleanup. (I am of the strong opinion that, while "delete" should be standardised as part of the mbox system, it shouldn't be part of the

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intended to summarise the entire article, but rather to be a concise version containing only the most important parts. If none of the content of a particular section is important enough, it does not need to be included.

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is a very special case. After two weeks have passed I will visit the subcategory page and see what happens, then wait two weeks more, then purge the subcategory page and again wait two weeks, then I will do a dummy edit.

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Ah, I see. You are right. And I will try to squeeze in some time to read up on and comment on the discussion you linked to. Even though I am really on a mini wikibreak since I have a lot of urgent things to do in real

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Though to be honest, I think that, other than ambox (white), and tmbox (coffee), all the other boxes should use the shading standard convention. It's how templates were, and honestly, I think it would resolve several

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state that the project banner template must be in that cat. I'm not sure how to resolve this - you're the second person to remove it - seems like the requirements for Wolterbot are either not clear or not well known.

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informative and more interesting to read. It also reduces the frequency of words such as "like", "and" and "also", which are anathema to high-quality writing except in the one place each where they actually belong.

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You didn't write anything about that removal of pages takes more time than additions, even when the removal is not template related but due to a manual edit. And especially when the page involved is a category page

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I will test both in my user space and see what I learn. I think we should use one of these methods since I think it will take much more than 31 days before you guys have converted all the banners to use the tmbox

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Advice needed if you can make sense of my rambling. Basically I'm wanting to add dance and singing specialist schools on there, but this other person keeps saying there is no objective criteria for notability.

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Again, it's confusing to think of passing a null value as 'suppressing' the parameter, because the template simply isn't designed like that. The reason it appears to suppress the cleanup listings is because the

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counterintuively and which are just genuinely stupid! It's just important to keep an open mind and assume the best at all times. For me on the other hand, it's often difficult for me to see why a piece of code

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So while I can see your point about using different structive boxes to contain the different "styles", I wonder if a binary switch setting for the two styles might be possible/appropriate. (shading = yes/no)

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started this. My first time at this sort of thing, so I hope I did an OK job. :) A small number of articles had already been assessed, and it's not a huge set of articles. Please let me know how it looks.

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no point in converting all the talkspace messageboxes to use a template other than tmbox if you're then going to tell that template to go back to displaying tmbox-like behavior in talkspace! that would be

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doesn't. As you discovered, the 'correct' way to implement link suppression is to use a value such as 'X' - I recommend "μ" as a guarranteed suppression value. I've changed the link to the basic topics.

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Hmm. I seem to recall that there are templates which are used in multiple namespaces, which switch to different backgrounds depending on namespace. Perhaps you and I are talking about two separate things.

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Certainly it would be a good idea, if someone is prepared to make the necessary assessments when the scheme is enabled. Do you know how to add the quality scale to the banner? Everything is explained at

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Have a look at what I've done. Nothing particularly difficult - I'm sure you could have worked it out for yourself. It's just a case of knowing what to wrap in conditional statements (you can leave the

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I have to say that it so feels like I'm banging my head against the wall in trying to get people to think "outside the box" for a moment, and look at other ways in which something could be organised or

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by retargetting them to non-existent pages, by setting the relevant parameter to a nonsense phrase. This isn't very elegant, but it does work. Why would you want to suppress certain links anyway?

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now wanted to use it here at the English Knowledge (XXG). I have now instead devised a much better solution for them by using the MediaWiki API. But I will continue the test since it is interesting.

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Ah! That's better... I knew we needed those, but wasn't sure how to do that. Is everything in order now? I tried to populate most of the categories a little to give people an idea where to start.

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One of the goals of this proposal is also the hope that this may remove at least one of the stumbling blocks in the way of possibly eventually merging at least a few of the several types of mbox.

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Yes, also when logged out. Worse, the one template is about half-width when "hidden" with javascript on. That may have something to do with the lack of class= coding for the one-line hidden form.

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template is for - it contains only a pipe, which is not 'exposed' until the end of the parser (when the wikitable code is evaluated, after all the parserfunctions). So wherever you wanted to put

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Nod, I can see the intent (which I suppose can be as valid as any other, it's merely a matter of presentation). Which is part of why I was reluctantly agreeing with you, several posts back : ) -

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Hi! I'd really like to be adopted. I have no experience whatsoever, and I just begun my account. I see your ready for an adoptee. Thanks. Please visit my talk page and tell me if you want me. -

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For some reason I misread the history on the project page and thought melonbot had tagged it too but that it didn't show up, anyway, I removed the duplicate tag from the talk page. Cheers.--

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to apologize for replacing its title with an altered version. But it claims it replaced the colon with a *semicolon*, which is not there at all! (It's a hyphen, not a semicolon). I think

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That's because you can't use a raw pipe character inside parser functions (unless it's part of a piped link) without it being thought of as part of the parser delimiters. That's what the

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Hiya H.M. I'm pointing Geometry Guy over here too; I'd like to ask you both, is it your sense that all (or almost all) of the active A-class review processes aspire to at least meet the

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isn't here for constructive editing. They've been blocked before and they've continued to disruptively edit Knowledge (XXG). If you could block him/her, it would be appreciated. Thanks!

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is itself bad, then it's a separate argument entirely, which I consider to be the case in the specific instance of allowing non-deletion messages to use the "delete" type, for instance.

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that you created a while ago, it appears it isn't doing its job (anymore). I'm not sure if you know if there was some process that used to trigger a reparsing in the transclusing pages.

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Hmm... sorry for the delay; too many things floating around in my head... I certainly agree to a certain extent on the I(DONT)WANTIT front, although I don't agree that the argument is

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I think it is hugely unfair to view only drama schools as notable, and I don't see how a school which consistently trains West End artists can't be viewed as notable in its own right.

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I hope that gives you some idea of where to begin. There is certainly plenty of good material in the article, and it seems fairly well referenced. FA status is certainly attainable.

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Just letting you know that something with the recent changes to the template have broke the notes on it, needs-infobox, attention, etc do not work now. Discussion is on the talk page

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nowadays. And meanwhile we might get some reactions to your new messages. Then when we know more we might perhaps revise the messages. So I leave those messages in your care for now.

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to a person (like a game designer), I'd like the page to be sorted on their last name as in the case of BLPs (that use the listas parameter in that template). Is this possible?

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the GA requirements, as an intermediary between GA and FA. I know that position, and the whole issue, is controversial, so I'd be hesitant to advocate it too strongly, however.

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I am trying to set this one for the heading section of page templates. I have it pretty much setup the way I want it, but there are some things I want to do but do not know how.

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If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "

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imprecise and then direct interested viewers to a clear explanation. I don't think the difference is particularly significant as long as the link to the explanation is there.

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for me - I'm trying to figure out why the first line of text is slightly indented (i.e., there appears to be a space before "This article is written...") Is this something in

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I didn't bring this up there becauase adding a tangent to an existing discussion is a great way to sidetrack a discussion (making it near impossible to determine consensus).

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Is there some option like the "listas" parameter (in the WPBiography template) available in templates that use WPBannerMeta? In other words, if I apply a template like, say

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where they can be reviewed separately from other user right changes. Is there any particular reason why you feel that bureaucrats must favour one interface over the other?

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From a technical perspective there is no advantage whatsoever to be gained by merging templates that use distinct styles, it's as simple as that. With the ease of the

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as a framework for a trial which we can hopefully all agree on, leaving us only with the three decisions above to make. It's a step in the right direction, at least.

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take up to some hours then they understand that that is normal and nothing is wrong. I don't think they will worry if most updates are faster than what we state. :))

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That's weird - I could have sworn I left you a follow-up note that I'd moved it. Oh well, your sleuthing skills are first-class! Can you figure out why the template

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Apparently, it was fixed around 18:12, 2 October 2008 (UTC) - an hour before your 19:01, 2 October 2008 post above (after a long history of working on the problem).

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Consensus seem to favor a merge as opposed to guideline status. Since I'm an involved editor, and your not, and I recognize your name, would you handle the merger?

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if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that media for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Knowledge (XXG) (see

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file of some sort, and not a system problem. In any case, the problem seems to have gone away, and everything that is supposed to collapse seems to be doing so.

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learn when some one shows me the way first. I am going to apply this on some of the other templates I created. I may be back, but I deeply appreciate the help. --

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costs are for each way. And it sounds like from what you're saying, that having them as separate constructs is "better" than using switches. Is that correct? -

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Hey Happy-melon, I've seen you're quite active in the Main Page Redesign project and wondered if you could add some comments on my request here, related to it:

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Hi, I've started converting some of the banners on your list but there are some that are protected, so I've starting listing those and my suggested changes at

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Instead of creating new structures to adapt to changing climates, you should be having a more productive discussion (indeed, having a recent discussion at all

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it will be added to the 2nd Gen of WP 1.0 Bot and would be used by many projects. Did you have any thoughts on adding this functionality in the near future?

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No, you are correct in that there are templates that are 'shape shifting' and change appearance based on which namespace they are in. They use the template

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So while the proposal I note above concerning XfD templates would resolve quite a bit, and presumably end disputes of editors (which would free them up for

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template, then perhaps it stops being duplication (although I'm not entirely convinced). But I haven't seen evidence that this is happening legitimately.

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Good thing I'm an admin and can follow that breadcrumb trail you left! I've simplified it a little, but there's not a lot that can be done here I'm afraid.

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rare to see sentences without punctuation in FAs, such as "Eckhart's older brothers are James Lawrence Eckhard and Adam Eckhart". It is very definitely

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Well, I updated settings. Now my proposal is more or less final. The setup is quite restrictive—nobody except bureaucrats will have any default rights.

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Hi. I was asked to take a look at the above template since I protected it due to a bit of edit warring. Apparently it is transcluding incorrectly, (see

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and others where "nested=yes" is not doing anything. it would appear to be one of the components of the WP templates rather than the template itself.

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form of warning is warranted, although I'm dubious about including any specific timeframe. What do you think about the message I've just instated?

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cases when a template changes the categorising of a page without the page being visited or edited and the template itself also not being edited, at

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or be merged. I would not object to a merged template with a field that shows whether it is intended to warn editors, readers, or both, for example.

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Of course, if you want to inform people more about when and how much updates are usually delayed and so on, then we could do something like this:

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common being: give them an inch and they'll take a mile, so IWANTIT to stay like it is to stop "them" from doing whatever I'm afraid that they

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to determine which series of the franchise each article is concerned with. I was wondering if you'd be able to explain or assist me in getting

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Not really. It would be possible to convert the parameter to lowercase, but then that would cause errors when the subject is a proper noun.

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certain that, other than that, there is no scope for indefinite delay, and no requirement to either visit or edit the page. AFAIK, pages are

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difference may not be immediately apparent, but it is crucial. A good lead looks at the article body, and distils it down to leave only the

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a category name from a page (especially a category page) then it can still take some hours before the page is removed from the category list.

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Thanks again for your help and patience. I'm sure it's clear that I am at a complete loss when it comes to understanding template syntax. —

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against that, but, I remembered that the lead needs to summarize the entire article, and that's why its mentioned. I've seen example FA's;

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Hello again (the pest is back). The template seems to give different results depending whether the parameter is lower case or capitalized?

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And things like template width are just variable entries, and as such should be easily "set" on a switch of some kind, I would presume?

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long rationale is required, that would be a clue to the deleting admin that perhaps the deletion isn't so clear as to be speedy. -- --

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a logical fallacy. If there is evidence to support the claims both that going a mile would be a bad thing, and that people genuinely

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It does. But, I was told in a peer review that I opened for the article and additional feedback, that parts of his early life section

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OK, I made the change to db-g8 and Db doc. Happy-melon, would you please check to see if the way I did it was OK? It seems to work.

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Uhh... What's that supposed to mean? :-P Seriously, though, what constitutes an "unusual parameter," because apparently I have one.

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Yes, that should be done automatically by the bot. If nothing's appeared in three or four days, you might want to poke someone at

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be "set on a switch of some kind" - you're right, they could and, where unavoidable, are - but it is a very hackish way to code.

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because I couldn't figure out how to make it categorize without, but I figured that was my failing, not the template's. Thanks!--

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you were bold, got reverted, so you are quite correct to take it to the talk page. But reinserting disputed content is not helpful

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The text appears normally to me on IE7 - what browser are you using? I'll try and have a look at the other issue when I get back.

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Old template as deprecated on 5 February 2008. If there was a discussion on that, please provide a link in the TfD. Thanks. -- --

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schools own articles give plenty of 'proof' of notability for training West End dancers and singers, so I don't know what to do.

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templates does not appear to have consensus (certainly not within the context of that TfD) and so should be considered invalid.

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for: it's perfectly ok to skim over entire sections from the main article if there are more important things to include. From

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I think it is impossible to state all this in a short message. Instead I think it is enough that we state something like this:

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But of course, for any change to happen, we'd be facing IWANTIT factions who I'm not sure would even "give" this much yardage.

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This is a problem that needs resolving immediately. The purpose of the standardisation was to reduce confusion, and here it's

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then users with the old CSS see all banners as 80% wide and users with the new CSS see all banners as 100% wide. But for the

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Anyway, this wasn't and isn't the main reason why I'm making the proposal, but I thought it might be worth mentioning as an

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is one that changes styles per namespace. But then I suppose it also hasn't been modified to be an mbox clone either : ) -

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template series is causing problems, then that redefinition should be reevaluated. Just because a template or process was

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There are 5 notes built in to the main banner code, with the option to easily add an unlimited number more using the hook

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was designed specifically to make switching between styles completely painless: if you code up a talkspace message using

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Also, is there a reason that the "extra" benefits of tmbox (such as "small") shouldn't be options on other mbox types? -

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As far as I'm aware, the implementation proposed for the 2nd generation 1.0 bot will not use physical categories of the

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No problem... That is kind of my problem as well...:(. I have set up search and replace to do this for me; but pressing

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That would indeed be neat; however, I'm not sure how useful it would be. Presumably it would involve adding new CSS to

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the restructuring of the system genuinely (and consensually) makes their usage different to the intended purpose of the

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My bad - I hadn't realized that I hadn't explicitly asked until a few minutes ago. ;) What exactly am I missing now?

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of tmbox, are all largely useless elsewhere and just clutter up the code. I can't see the utility of, for instance,

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Er, I'm having quite a lot of difficulty following this! Can you provide some links to diffs or discussions please?

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before doing that update: I was half intending to wait until October 31 when I could have implemented the shiny new

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Needless to say that seems rather contrary to the Wiki-ideals of constant adpatability and of consensus can change.

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I read the discussion and background to the template exhaustively before closing the TfD; I stand by my decision.

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parameter, so it should now work - you can duplicate my edit on any other banner that might need to use listas.

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we would still have to use "nested=yes" to get the right widths for all users during the entire decaching time.

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Er, I'm not entirely sure what the problem is supposed to be. The template substituted correctly in all of my

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Sorry I broke Knowledge (XXG) while you were away (even though you did leave specific instructions not to). ~

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I wonder if it is completely out of the question or whether a temporary change may be permitted. Many thanks.

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Not sure why, this didn't seem to happen on the project page. Just thought you might want to look into it.--

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Well thank you, I'll take a look. And I'm very relieved you weren't ignoring me ;) Just my bad luck I guess.

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does not suppress the "Stubs" link. Can we make all parameters work the same so that any can be suppressed.

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fixed it, but suggested that I ask you to take a look to see if you could simplify the code he added. Thanks—

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1: A minor hack that doesn't have to decache, so we can use it immediately. It will make it so that for the

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Could you please add the following template addition to the list provided for the S-roy template? Thanks!

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I have to go to bed now, but I will probably test it tomorrow in my user space and report back to you.

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not the first character in the string, hence it's also not stripped). Is that what you wanted, anyway?

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I don't know if that is something you'd be for or against, but I thought it might be worth noting. -

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There's not a lot I can do except entirely unrelated tweaks to the conditional code. Have a read of

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Hmn, I can't see any issues anywhere, either in WPB, WPBS or separate. Can you provide an example?

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could help out with that. If you can't, no hard feelings. But, if you can, I would appreciate it a

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switch: The default will be "Project", but when "yes" is added, it will change that to "Task Force"

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take a mile, then it's perfectly cohesive argument. Of course, objective evidence is often (even

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I was wondering when the ability to use category intersection will be added to the template. Per

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Yes, you may edit. I included copies of defaults only for convenience; they can be removed later.

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Ok, I've had a crack at it. Let me know if anything goes wrong! Sorry for keeping you waiting...

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If a two or more related fields are defined, I wish that there will be a line break between them.

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Hey. You seem to maintain WPBannerMeta. Could you figure out why there is a blank space before

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2: A less hacky way that has to decache before we can use mbox-inside in the two bannershells.

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manageable chunks; as such it would be extremely useful to smooth the transition, as you say.

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I wonder whether you would like to comment here, since you have some experience in the topic:

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to the first one. For more information on basic template functions like this, have a read of

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shows what appears to be finger pointing. If you can, please take a look at the situation at

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The emphasis given to material in the lead should roughly reflect its importance to the topic

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Thankyou for your efforts and quality contributions on creating the code for the bot for the

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It's okay, I can't think straight, so I'll just not bother worrying about it. Cheery anyway

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Sorry to butt it, but to avoid confusion: I am pretty sure Happy-melon mean that you should

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Now both the "Article" link and the "Basic list" link point to the article specified in the

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it seemed like most pages came into the category faster than they are likely to be visited.

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Tmbox also has a "small" option, uses some clever tweaks to allow tmboxes to 'nest' (but

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My latest and greatest (yeah, right). This one will really require you mastery, I think.

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page then the category list gets updated pretty much immediately. But when you manually

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to select five new designs, before an RFC in which one will be proposed to replace the

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Yes, you'd probably get the best response over there. Sorry I can't be any more help!

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mean it cannot evolve to take on new functions. In this case, the redefinition of the

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were the source of my big yellow banner. I've got ten minutes now, I'll have a look.

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Also, is there any way of not using the graphic, and instead using the show acronyms?

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It seems that some people are having twinkle freeze when tagging articles db-bio. See

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name giving a link to the non-existent page "List of basic statistics topics topics".

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your cache to get the latest CSS and JS files (although you should have them already

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and bring it in line with other projects. The important difference with ours is the

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discussions/tasks), I'm "reluctant" to be optimistic concerning such a proposal. -

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Hi again, thanks for the quick response. I don't want to be a pain (honest!) but:

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Template talk:WikiProjectBanners#new_implementation_of_WikiProject_banner_nesting

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OK! Gets hard to debug stuff when there are multiple layers of nested templates.

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has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at

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I have no idea. It's not like this got a lot of discussion even at the project.

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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the

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Once they've accepted or understood one way, they seem to become entrenched in

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Not from this connection I'm afraid! I could do it after the 16th December...

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parameter. Is this intentional? It's not clear in the template documentation.

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Then it's far too complicated. Remember we're after a limited trial with the

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template was created to cover the excluded scope, so it is not a duplication.

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Well, it's nice to hear that at least "someone" considers me "reasonable" : )

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Some bits of table code were visible in the template. Seems fixed right now.

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Hey there Happy-melon! This is a friendly reminder to update your status at

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Wikipedia_talk:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team#Need_help_to_figure_out_something

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Can you please A) show me an example of a page where it's not working, B)

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Help me Obi-wan Kenobi, you're my only hope. (No, I am not putting on the

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But I think that is over-information and will just clutter the interface.

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User talk:Robertgreer#Issue_with_Template:WikiProject_Dance_nested.3Dyes

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What an amazing and complex template! I ended up adding assessment to

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is giving an incorrect message in some of the articles where it's used

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your posting to Knowledge (XXG):Requests for arbitration. Thank you.

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Can this be fixed (other than manually specifying each page)? Regards—

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Thanks for the explanation. I've left a note for the bot owner here:

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I was thinking, would setting up Task-force like fields work better?

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I've left a question on the template talkpage, concerning pages like

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Hey, Happy-melon. I'm having a slight issue with the header code in

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suggested I drop you a note. I've been building a new nav bar here:

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do in the future. Logical fallacy that that is, it's fairly common.)

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only makes any sense at all when you also merge the associated mbox

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Er, the templates that switch style when they're in talkspace do so

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different from the defaults should really be included. May I edit?

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Um, yes. The football template is slightly smaller than the others.

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and find a couple of actors/actresses that are already FAs - I read

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I commented on this fine work over at Wikimedia. It's badly needed!

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Updates to this list can occasionally be delayed for a few hours. –

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I came here to mention Template:WikiProject Rock music as well. --

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The DRV Newdelrev template doesn't seem to work in all situations.

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Knowledge (XXG):Templates for deletion#Template:Draft CSD templates

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the use of physical category intersections, not perpetuate them.

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I knew that a post on your talk page would fix things. Thanks! --

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Updates to this list can occasionally be delayed for a few hours.

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to the discussion, so their 'vote' is almost entirely discounted.

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Setting paramater defaults is very simple: have a look at what I

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A few words to that effect from the editor would have been nice

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which to decide to Db-g8 delete a page, would you please modify

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Note also all the different "levels" to the cleanup notices on

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enduser-friendliness. But then, that is apparently the goal of

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I want to suppress the "Cleanup" for the time-being because of

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The draft CSD templates have been nominated for deletion. See

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is much faster. Maybe someone else can help with the request.

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You are welcome to contribute content which complies with our

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Since it took more time than usual before I replied to you:

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Works for me! Try purging or null-editing the /Cleanup page.

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Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject Statistics/Cleanup listing/Header

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happens for those readers whose browsers do not support CSS.

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display. Any suggestions for making the distinction clear?

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series of templates should not be repurposed, in which case

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I know there is more but am too tired to think of them now.

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to appear, or will the bots handle that on the next sweep?

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MediaWiki_talk:Common.css#Request_for_background-image_rule

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Hello Happy-melon! Please take a look at the top line of

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Orphaned non-free media (Image:EmmaWatsonBalletShoes.jpg)

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conversion of the Template:Infobox rugby league biography

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This is not really a big deal — I just like consistency.

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suppresses the "Cleanup" link, but not the "Stubs" link:

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Template talk:Category redirect#New categorization ideas

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Template talk:Category redirect#New categorization ideas

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Do we have a page allows people to ask for undeletion?--

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WPBannerMeta/qualityscale and unassessed class category

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the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page

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Category:WikiProject banners without quality assessment

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Talk:Main Page/Archive 124#Changing links on main page

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User:WolterBot/Cleanup_listing_subscription#Parameters

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Knowledge (XXG):Deletion guidelines for administrators

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Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject Statistics/Cleanup listing

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Thank you very much for any help you could provide, --

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discussion: it's certainly an issue for another day.

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Happy-melon, I wish I knew why you were ignoring me.

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Category:Rescaled fairuse images more than 7 days old

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A friendly reminder from the Adopt-a-User project =)

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outcome of your very patient experiment. However, I

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Knowledge (XXG):Miscellany for deletion#Introduction

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Knowledge (XXG):Adopt-a-User/Adoptee's Area/Adopters

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Never mind. The matter was resolved. My bad. : ) --

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User_talk:B._Wolterding#Cleanup_listing_requirements

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Help:Category#Adding_a_category_by_using_a_template

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This probably should be moved to a subpage of 4994:Hi Happy-melon, would you please have a look at 2689:{{topic|Statistics|simple=yes|pna=X|stubtype=X}} 3141:Whoever said that is simply wrong; the lead is 6351:I noticed, I'm just working on the reluctance 5875:instead. Here is the list of namespaces where 4521:The two that it's now asking you to create on 2651:{{topic|Statistics|simple=yes|pna=|stubtype=}} 2405:Category:Archive boxes with unusual parameters 2315:/* {{#if:{{ucfirst:article}}|blahblahblah}} */ 5597:Category:FA-Class Top importance Foo articles 2781:exists while the page from the null value of 1459:Right, my "very patient experiment" uses the 1016:Template:Hollywood Freeway (US 101) exit list 233:I do not want it to display undefined fields. 8: 1124:I was thinking of changing the message from 637:Speedy deletion of "Template:Otheruses2/doc" 175:, which I hope will eventually replace it. 5766:Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_template_sharing 5651:You know why, right? It's the form used at 3208:requirements, or do some aim lower? - Dan 2100:- preferably all in the same colored box? 1651:User talk:MelonBot/WikiProject banner stats 1516:User:WolterBot/Cleanup listing subscription 660:; specifically, it is a test page. Use the 6455:Knowledge (XXG):Template messages/Disputes 5912:, it's in bad need of some contributions. 4692:I'll keep that in mind - thanks again. :) 3373:before things get more heated. Thanks. -- 2299:Some issues substituting #if statements... 2090:to optionally allow the banner to include 1919:{{db-g8|rationale=DeletionRationale|~~~~}} 1113:I noticed that you deleted my versions of 953:is a duplication, or it is concluded that 6469:Knowledge (XXG):Template messages/Cleanup 2769:page doesn't exist. Passing null to the 1208:Updates to this list can occasionally be 729: 6242:I think I may have to reluctantly agree. 5198:Category:Articles for creation templates 4171:". I understand the process; I actually 3732:. Do you still see it when logged out? 3407:doesn't work. What's supposedly wrong? 2767:Knowledge (XXG):Pages needing attention/ 1610:The documentation has been updated here 1119:MediaWiki:Category-article-count-limited 841:If the redefinition of the scope of the 475:Sure - I'll see what I can do tomorrow. 4996:Template:WikiProject Contemporary music 3403:, for instance, although naturally the 2335:Question about sorting and WPBannerMeta 1359:If I were a newbie that would worry me. 1244:directly causes a complete rerendering 374:did was break the parser statements. -- 3480:might have something to do with it? -- 3404: 3400: 3397: 2782: 2778: 2770: 2366: 2251: 2247: 1803:templates like obsolete licenses are. 44:Do not edit the contents of this page. 6245:Mostly because I don't know what the 5548:And I would prefer Tag and Assess 200 5149:please? There's some confusion about 1845:TfD nomination of draft CSD templates 1545:All WikiProject banners should be in 7: 5311:As what, a trial or implementation? 4093:Template talk:WikiProject Rock music 3468:Your recent edit to twinklespeedy.js 2479:Can you help explain this behavior: 6471:alone. (Including red, by the way.) 6457:, have as well, just not as often.) 6135:, which is a 'director' template. 5801:Knowledge (XXG): The Missing Manual 5214:I guess you are busy at the mo ... 5082:. Robert Greer found an example at 4893:Hi, the template I'm working on is 4244:The Main Page Redesign proposal is 3223:Hi, and welcome to my humble abode 2531:suppresses the "Cleanup" link, but 2438:them. Hope this clarifies things. 1500:Hello again - you recently removed 926:) incoming contributors contribute 681:guide to writing your first article 401:has been approved. Please see the 348:style="some-style:foo;"{{!}}Wording 4173:took it to Royalguard11' talk page 4162:Knowledge (XXG):Protection policy‎ 2203:Any chance you can take a look at 1355:To me that can be interpreted as: 798: 791: 24: 6400:way, refusing any and all others. 5173:WikiProject Articles for Creation 4897:, which will be used in place of 4652:Do I need to do something to get 4246:currently conducting a straw poll 3576:Right, this involves new code in 2734:), but didn't get a response yet. 2080:- would it be possible to modify 1727:Hi, could you explain this edit: 740:The Tireless Contributor Barnstar 656:, as it meets one or more of the 5552:not running into the new year:) 4714: 4091:I've replied to your comment at 4002:Category:Rescaled fairuse images 3296:My only direct experience is at 2955:OK. Thanks again for your help— 1115:MediaWiki:Category-article-count 1109:MediaWiki:Category-article-count 1082:You can challenge a deletion at 730: 571:. 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But I can do it in two ways: 3325:00:56, 30 September 2008 (UTC) 3307:21:02, 29 September 2008 (UTC) 3288:19:31, 29 September 2008 (UTC) 3271:19:09, 29 September 2008 (UTC) 3248:18:27, 29 September 2008 (UTC) 3218:18:18, 29 September 2008 (UTC) 3188:22:05, 29 September 2008 (UTC) 3159:21:10, 29 September 2008 (UTC) 3137:21:06, 29 September 2008 (UTC) 3096:18:54, 29 September 2008 (UTC) 3044:17:52, 29 September 2008 (UTC) 3004:18:29, 28 September 2008 (UTC) 2976:20:16, 28 September 2008 (UTC) 2959: 2951:09:53, 28 September 2008 (UTC) 2931:17:25, 27 September 2008 (UTC) 2914: 2828:12:53, 27 September 2008 (UTC) 2811: 2799:07:29, 27 September 2008 (UTC) 2759:07:09, 27 September 2008 (UTC) 2742: 2578:06:33, 27 September 2008 (UTC) 2559:02:10, 27 September 2008 (UTC) 2542: 2470:08:28, 27 September 2008 (UTC) 2451:16:55, 26 September 2008 (UTC) 2424:15:48, 26 September 2008 (UTC) 2396:13:07, 26 September 2008 (UTC) 2382:11:19, 26 September 2008 (UTC) 2359:10:43, 26 September 2008 (UTC) 2330:15:34, 24 September 2008 (UTC) 2277:19:36, 18 September 2008 (UTC) 2240:17:41, 17 September 2008 (UTC) 2221:17:22, 17 September 2008 (UTC) 2194:12:00, 16 September 2008 (UTC) 2172:20:25, 18 September 2008 (UTC) 2155: 2147:07:07, 16 September 2008 (UTC) 2124:22:01, 14 September 2008 (UTC) 2107: 2040:17:12, 13 September 2008 (UTC) 2017:05:43, 13 September 2008 (UTC) 1985:17:20, 13 September 2008 (UTC) 1966:02:16, 10 September 2008 (UTC) 1949:01:29, 10 September 2008 (UTC) 1618: 1589: 1523: 1319:I think it's fair to say that 760: 593: 589:) Thanks again for your help— 514: 1: 6552:14:14, 26 November 2008 (UTC) 6495:17:01, 25 November 2008 (UTC) 6486:16:59, 24 November 2008 (UTC) 6381:15:52, 24 November 2008 (UTC) 6335:13:54, 24 November 2008 (UTC) 6326:19:47, 23 November 2008 (UTC) 6285:19:42, 23 November 2008 (UTC) 6272:17:46, 23 November 2008 (UTC) 6254:17:11, 23 November 2008 (UTC) 6238:10:45, 23 November 2008 (UTC) 6216:07:04, 23 November 2008 (UTC) 6184:23:06, 22 November 2008 (UTC) 6123:22:57, 22 November 2008 (UTC) 6108:18:56, 22 November 2008 (UTC) 6050:14:57, 22 November 2008 (UTC) 6038:13:02, 22 November 2008 (UTC) 6028:12:31, 22 November 2008 (UTC) 6006:12:25, 22 November 2008 (UTC) 5989:11:41, 22 November 2008 (UTC) 5970:20:07, 21 November 2008 (UTC) 5947:10:42, 25 November 2008 (UTC) 5925:08:43, 25 November 2008 (UTC) 5902:08:03, 25 November 2008 (UTC) 5841:10:40, 23 November 2008 (UTC) 5822:05:17, 23 November 2008 (UTC) 5786:03:41, 19 November 2008 (UTC) 5776:03:37, 19 November 2008 (UTC) 5759:22:52, 17 November 2008 (UTC) 5743:22:35, 17 November 2008 (UTC) 5725:22:23, 17 November 2008 (UTC) 5695:23:28, 16 November 2008 (UTC) 5684:23:14, 16 November 2008 (UTC) 5662:23:04, 16 November 2008 (UTC) 5637:17:44, 14 November 2008 (UTC) 5616:16:07, 14 November 2008 (UTC) 5590:21:25, 13 November 2008 (UTC) 5561:14:20, 13 November 2008 (UTC) 5538:14:20, 13 November 2008 (UTC) 5513:14:15, 13 November 2008 (UTC) 5492:14:10, 13 November 2008 (UTC) 5445:16:23, 14 November 2008 (UTC) 5418:19:53, 13 November 2008 (UTC) 5403:08:02, 13 November 2008 (UTC) 5388:19:10, 12 November 2008 (UTC) 5374:17:36, 12 November 2008 (UTC) 5352:17:08, 12 November 2008 (UTC) 5338:13:05, 12 November 2008 (UTC) 5324:13:00, 12 November 2008 (UTC) 5306:11:21, 12 November 2008 (UTC) 5274:16:18, 14 November 2008 (UTC) 5265:16:17, 14 November 2008 (UTC) 5248:14:44, 13 November 2008 (UTC) 5229:14:38, 13 November 2008 (UTC) 5168:18:26, 12 November 2008 (UTC) 5123:12:31, 13 November 2008 (UTC) 4907:Template:WikiProject Degrassi 4895:Template:WikiProject Degrassi 4739:our policy for non-free media 4618:Perfect! Have fun assessing! 1931:16:44, 9 September 2008 (UTC) 1891:08:24, 4 September 2008 (UTC) 1379:Help:Category#Delayed updates 1377:I saw what you wrote over at 853:created for one purpose does 769: 5219:18:57, 6 November 2008 (UTC) 5209:14:37, 3 November 2008 (UTC) 5096:00:58, 9 November 2008 (UTC) 5067:20:17, 8 November 2008 (UTC) 5038:10:05, 8 November 2008 (UTC) 5012:06:48, 8 November 2008 (UTC) 4985:21:49, 6 November 2008 (UTC) 4957:07:31, 8 November 2008 (UTC) 4931:15:42, 3 November 2008 (UTC) 4889:19:22, 29 October 2008 (UTC) 4864:02:43, 29 October 2008 (UTC) 4845:02:01, 29 October 2008 (UTC) 4817:20:57, 3 November 2008 (UTC) 4789:20:29, 2 November 2008 (UTC) 4766:05:06, 2 November 2008 (UTC) 4754:criteria for speedy deletion 4702:21:58, 28 October 2008 (UTC) 4688:21:36, 28 October 2008 (UTC) 4666:21:33, 28 October 2008 (UTC) 4631:21:26, 28 October 2008 (UTC) 4582:21:20, 28 October 2008 (UTC) 4540:21:04, 28 October 2008 (UTC) 4493:21:03, 28 October 2008 (UTC) 4459:21:04, 28 October 2008 (UTC) 4422:00:54, 28 October 2008 (UTC) 4391:22:02, 27 October 2008 (UTC) 4368:21:42, 27 October 2008 (UTC) 4343:20:42, 27 October 2008 (UTC) 4292:20:38, 27 October 2008 (UTC) 4271:Hi there. :) I noticed that 4262:10:20, 28 October 2008 (UTC) 4235:02:50, 22 October 2008 (UTC) 4216:00:09, 22 October 2008 (UTC) 4197:23:19, 21 October 2008 (UTC) 4155:20:47, 18 October 2008 (UTC) 4117:08:31, 21 October 2008 (UTC) 4086:01:50, 20 October 2008 (UTC) 4040:13:32, 14 October 2008 (UTC) 4018:05:10, 14 October 2008 (UTC) 3987:03:21, 12 October 2008 (UTC) 3769:Another one with a problem: 2429:It's just that the code for 2294:, as it's used on this page? 2180:Your Templates Help Revision 1502:Category:WikiProject banners 1090:was not followed correctly. 658:criteria for speedy deletion 6056:by using tmbox in talkspace 4729:. 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