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shelter in the walled city). Now this small episode of a bigger yet not too well known
Rebellion of Safdar Jang is made as a separate battle in itself, which is not the case, and not just battle they made it look like they captured the Imperial city and that too themselves and were not acting under the authority of Safdar Jang. If it was a battle, then with whom? the impoverished victim of the loot, didn't fight back. Safdar Jung's rebellion under which all this took place has no page of its own and we have such page. In my opinion either this page can be converted into Safdar Jang's rebellion and all other aspects of the whole war is to be added or this page should be deleted because this page in its current state is
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Sikandra where the tomb of Akbar is. Neither any citations on the page talks about any such battle. My opinion is the rebel Jats came to Sikandra, broke open the tomb of Akbar then exhumed and burned his remains because Sikandra was in the heartland of Jat
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And this is just a short part of the war. Soon
Imperial side started to make sorties out of the city and attack the rebels. Such skirmishes started to happen more frequently, both sides lost many men and war went on for months. Both were fed up with the war and no one was getting an upper hand. Later
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and came to the conclusion that it was definitely a hoax, so I have deleted it. I started looking at other articles, and making notes on what I found, but a computer system crash caused me to lose those notes, and I don't remember much detail of what I had found. However, I do know that it seemed to
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mediated a peace between both parties and Sadfar Jang left for Awadh. The war thus ended. The role of Jats was of taking part in the war under Safdar Jang and they merely looted unprotected, unguarded and mostly impoverished people of old delhi (most of the family which has even little money took
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Anyway when he was expelled from Delhi the imperial city, he didn't go to Awadh but remained in the vicinity of Delhi and collected his army to challenge the imperial authority. In short he rebelled against the empire. He also invited other factions and parties of former mughal empire like
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at that time was a walled city. It was fairly new city and built near the many old cities of Delhi. Today the same
Shahjahanabad is called the Old Delhi because later British built a New Delhi near it. Anyway some maratha soldiers sided with Imperial side while Jats under
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and written by unknown author. There has been flood of such obscure books written by obscure writers under influence of some specific ideology or castes. Need to check this battle page because well known historians do not mention any such
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You tagged this page for speedy deletion as an obvious hoax but since it is dealing with assessing historical literature, it doesn't qualify as "obvious" from an admin's point-of-view. So, I've converted it into a
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took the side of Safdar Jang. Rebels then tried to attack the walled city but as it was fortified they could not succeed. Rebels who were outiside the city looted the countryside including the old
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terrirtory hence no one could go there in time to oppose them and its not like any army is charged with guarding of a tomb, it was most likely lying unprotected. Hence this page too looks like
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I have seen messages from you expressing concerns about battle articles. A fairly quick look suggests that you are probably right. I will look into it more thoroughly when I get time.
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just two days back, frankly speaking I doubt this one as well but I have to check the sources which I didn't do. This user also got final warning for many vandalisation he has done.
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in his book Fall of Mughal Empire Vol. 1, described this war in minute detail. A whole chapter is dedicated to rebellion of Safdar Jung. Another page is
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