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Filipino. Maybe "Filipino and Tagalog Writers" may be better. Informally, Tagalog writers will be those who emerged from the time of Balagtas to 1973 (when Tagalog was officially replaced by Pilipino and Filipino). Those who emerged/ have been published more extensively from the 1970s onwards like Isagani Cruz may be considered Filipino. There are those who still write in traditional Tagalog (Teo Antonio, a multi-awarded poet and U.S.T. alumnus) but they are beginning to be less in number. They are mostly published in Liwayway. But then again, I do not consider myself a genuine expert on this. There may be another Wikipedian who is far more competent. I had to get in touch with you on this since you are also interested in the issue and you are just as passionate about Philippine-related entries. Maybe you can relay the issue to the other members. Thanks again. -
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Iligan City (from Lanao del Norte), Cagayan de Oro City (from
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contributors downplaying each other's universities by nitpicking. Each school may end up with tirades coming from students and alumni of the other universities. All universities have good and bad alumni. But you can try again by rewording/ rephrasing. Then let's see how it goes and take it from there. Thanks. --
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also discussed these issues. We all have the perception that
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Feel free to do so. No problem with me. My only reservation is that your good intentions may be misinterpreted as an aside coming from U.S.T. Just trying to avoid any possible conflict. Objectively, you are right. But
Filipinos are too sensitive about the schools where they come from. We might end up
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I have noticed that you had removed the demarcation of the Senate into
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Can you help me discuss with this anynonymous user? He was beginning to become a rogue and he was annoying me. He even left his e-mail address (darkatanna07@yahoo.com). I've already sent him my reply, but to make sure, can you help me giving the "hard and fast" rules in
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I see. I have edited the UP article already, and added a little note (on UP-Diliman) at the top of the page. About notorious, don't get me wrong, but I also left out "the brightest", to balance "notorious." However, since "notorious" is a word that provokes emotion, I suggest to devise a new phrase
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The terms of the members of the House and Senate does not in any way affect the life of Congress. Both institutions are continuous bodies, they just change members, it so happen that all members of the House expire their terms at the same time. If your argument shall stand and why do bills filed in
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which are as follows: Baguio City (from Benguet), Angeles City (from Pampanga), Olongapo City (from Zambales), Lucena City (from Quezon), Bacolod City (from Negros Occidental), Iloilo City (from Iloilo Province), Cebu and Mandaue Cities (from Cebu Province), Zamboanga City (from Zamboanga del Sur),
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No it does NOT. Your map does not say where the Zamboanga Peninsula is in which of the world's continents. As I said, you might as well put a world atlas if that is your purpose. We certainly find that map that you keep on changing as desperate, thick and low. And as an added insult to injury, that
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Just a note. Vicky Quirino was not "first daughter" (no such reference at the time, and generally, not used during the 3rd Republic -president's children were simply children of the president). She was really and actually the First Lady (refer to the "Official Week in Revue" section of the Official
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It's actually very tricky. But Dr. Teresita Fortunato (originally a Professor at UST Arts and Letters before moving to DLSU), Dr. Isagani Cruz and Dr. Lourdes Bautista (UST Professor before moving to DLSU) published several books and articles where they distinguished Filipino from Tagalog. At this
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article because it is apparently too much like a fan site. Unfortunately, the deleted sections are informative and share valuable information about the band's roots, influences, and stlyes. I've restored the deleted sections. Please reword the sections if you feel they are too propagandistic, but
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I think for the time being (for the next few years or so), Filipino language and Tagalog language writers should be merged. But let us be vigilant since there will be more differences later. Putting them under "Tagalog Writers" may stir opposition from Ma'am Fortunato, Dr. Cruz, Dr. Lumbera and
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Bakit ba Ikaw Alis Mo Yung Scedule Ng Hero Tv Sa Knowledge Ikaw ba Nanadya Kb At Gusto ko Lang Ayusin Yung Hero Tv Pati Mga Shows nito no At Pati ba Naman Izumo At Musumet Hindi Sa Ako nakiki Pag away Sa Iyo ang gusto ko lang ay maging No# 1 Ang Hero Tv laban sa A_I_M_X no At Maging Best Anime
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I have no problems about what you had written. But personal comments ("U.P...home...to the most notorious..") may incite divisiveness among Filipinos from both U.P. and U.S.T.. It would be best to reflect the best of our respective institutions instead of touching on the lapses. After all, all
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Howard, the map that you changed in Zamboanga City's infobox (Ph locator zamboanga del sur zamboanga.png) is misleading. Zamboanga City now has nothing to do with Zamboanga del Sur province, and we Zamboangeños do not want to associate ourselves with the province even if the province wants to
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Hi Howard, thanks for your comments re Filipino Writers, Filipino and Tagalog. Together with other wikipedians, let us try to gather a more definitive stand on the controversial issues surrounding Filipino language. I remember attending conferences in DLSU, UP and UST with speakers like
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Gazette of the time). She was First Lady because she served as official hostess (not escort, which has a negative connotation today and was never the appropriate term for the role) for her father. By the way, compliments on your list of Presidents, it's so well done.
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It's fortunate that you contacted me on this one because I really don't know the hard facts. So, for the meantime, are you favor of merging categorization of Filipino language writers and Tagalog language writers into one category called Tagalog language writers?
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cases which the constitution grants them the authority to, thus when the two houses calendar there sessions they do it in consultation with the other, and they would also have to adjourn sine die with the House. Likewise laws have introductory clauses
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I'll just send his reply to you. I'll be offline at the wee hours of the morning, too (unless it is Saturday after PBB Eviction Night, which I stay up until 1am Sunday). Maybe we can do something about him. I'm also sure that the anon user is also
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I don't know about having "Filipino and Tagalog writers" category, BUT perhaps, we can state on the category page that it includes both Tagalog language AND Filipino language (the word "language" is very important) writers.
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However, the new map does not state where in the world Zamboanga City is. It is a local map. It doesn't even add locales outside the city. I'd contact Coffee to create a map that says Zamboanga City is an independent city.
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The Senate can't be divided into first, second congress, etc. because they have staggered terms. However, the House is said to be divided into first, second, third, etc. congresses because the terms are not staggered.
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where in the world Zamboanga City is. I have added the sub heading "location" to describe where in the world Zamboanga City is; The map that you again changed NEITHER states where in the world Zamboanga City is.
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of the Philippines are the barangays - but what about for the highly urbanized cities and independent component cities??? Do they become second level then, since their city is a first level subdivision?
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Channel No at parang kampi sa kalaban no pansin ko lang sa iyo at gusto lang naman gawa yung business mo ay gawin mo at yung sa akin ay gawa ko din ok ba sa iyo at tapos ang problema no ok ba saiyo yun.
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on the other hand can use yellow or blue, even for Arroyo, the colors of Lakas-CMD. And Estrada's color is really orange, maybe a little deep orange will do. Thank you very much and much kudos!
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I have reservations in showing Zamboanga City apart from its mother province Zamboanga del Sur. I guess for the resolution of this issue, the following points would have to be considered:
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table, cuz' there will be more seasons to watch out, so information is more presented easily on such a medium. Honestly, I see nothing wrong about having the table in the article. --
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However, I deleted most of your comments regarding the University of the Philippines because some of the comments may arise further conflict between U.P. and U.S.T. fanatics.
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How's that? Unfortunately, I'll be offline in the wee hours of the morning. Or you can forward to me his messages or paste them here. Also, you can ask for more advice
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Only PBB is on my watchlist, UP and E-Heads aren't but I occasionally visit those. Thanks for the heads up. --
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I already saw the changes and it was great! By the way, President
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Thanks. And I hope to be a part of this proposed wiki-project.
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Why don't you do it an infobox form, just as the one seen at
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