User talk:IHateAccounts/Archive 1

1918:. I've appreciated your contributions and I hope you use this as an opportunity to reflect a bit – nobody 'wins' in contentious debates on current affairs talkpages. It's often worth stepping back and leaving points you disagree with unanswered, even if they're in response to your comments, especially when another rebuttal won't add anything new to the discussion. Trust other editors' judgements (or the closer's judgement in RfCs). Related to this, characterising others' arguments or views is neither respectful nor a good launching point for valuable discussion. It's worth remembering that regular editors are probably well aware of our policies, so dispute is more likely to be the result of differing, valid interpretations of broad policies, rather than ignorance of them. These aren't easy things to do, and I make these mistakes myself, especially when I'm convinced I'm right. 545:

phone, just to try to remember what websites I already have an account on and what websites I don't. 90% of the stuff we do in the world shouldn't require an account, just like the grocery store shouldn't need to ask my phone number just so I can buy a gallon of milk and a couple boxes of cereal with cash. It irritates me. And the stuff Bus Stop wrote, pretty clearly they're totally ok with people being harassed and bullied into making accounts everywhere. I disagree fully with the idea that bullying people into creating an account is acceptable behavior, even though I finally gave in to it because apparently, eventually the whole site will be locked into "you shall make an account or you shall go away" status. Editing on wikipedia or checking the weather forecast aren't the same things as driving a car.

2379:. Yet when I bring a VERY similar case, primarily asking that the user just get someone to talk some sense into them with respect to Reliable Sources policy? I find myself being savaged for it, made out to be an enemy by individuals who grossly misrepresent edits and statements, and accused of filing in the wrong place. And all this happens even after I took the time to write a draft, I asked for advice on how and where to file it first and for more experienced people than me to check and copyedit it, and even made corrections myself when I realized I had made an error regarding the edit history, in order to do everything in good faith. I don't think that's either right or just, and I don't understand people who can just flip hot/cold like that. 695:—there is a sense of continuity that is important. I understand the argument that discriminating against IPs is unfair. But IPs lack distinguishing characteristics, making continuity difficult. And yes, I agree the name should be tailored to recognizability—license plate-like usernames are problematic. I think it is difficult enough to remember something about usernames that we know we recognize. A problem is that ideally we are concerned with the edit, not the editor. With that in mind it could be argued that unrecognizable usernames should be preferred. But it is more enjoyable to interact with humans, even anonymous humans on the internet, because humans embody ideas and humans tend to have similar ideas from one moment to the next. 3071:, but it might help you understand why people are saying you're spending an unusual amount of time at discussion pages. The typical newish editor (under 5000 or so edits) shows a very different pattern. Usually the newer the editor, the more they edit in the main space (red) with some green (article talk), a bit of yellow (user talk), and very little deep blue (Knowledge) or bright blue (Knowledge talk). Again this is nothing more than an FYI re:other people's comments on that, in case you didn't know about that tool. It's not a comment by me; I know you have more experience than your statistics would show. 1856:

already said, you can appeal the block if you genuinely believe that you've been misrepresented or that valereee is acting on some bias due to a friendship. If you don't wish to, that's your prerogative, but you need to either ask for an outside set of eyes on the block or stop with the aspersions against valereee—you can't just continue to make accusations but refuse to ask for outside input. I would also really appreciate you stop with the insinuations and now outright accusations of transphobia against editors who have not shown such behavior towards you.

4690:. Obviously, we are just worried about the content not being reposted, i'm not about to block the user (although it always remains an option in outing cases) for outing or meatpuppetry. But independent thought is always something that has to come out of offwiki coordination, except while under duress (which will get a comprimised account block anyway). It's just like me running a CU based on what someone else said, I can't, I have to justify it myself because I am responsible for the check. So I think this can be a lesson all around. -- 3869: 1542:, I'll point out that the section above the one you cite is me asking Atsme to cool her own jets at the page in question. Calling me "overzealous because (Atsme and I) are friends" is another assumption of bad faith. I try to maintain a civil, and whenever possible, cordial relationship with other editors, even when I disagree with them. Look, I just want you to stop sniping and making snarky remarks. It's counterproductive to a collaborative project. 1394: 31: 4316: 4371: 2267: 4561:, thank you both for the clarifications. Regarding the text that was redacted, one of the pertinent points I made in response to the question by Srey Sros was that the twitter posts I was intending to provide, while they seem to now be deleted, were from an account that has been posting about involvement in a billboard advertisement campaign for the book. I believe that the off-wikipedia 678:

distinguishing between license-plate usernames like P372K and P798Q. I'm like...is that the trusted editor I've encountered on multiple occasions, or is it someone new I need to check the edits of? The chances I'll recognize an IP...almost zero. Clearly though people like GW and Guy easily recognize this editor as a long-term trusted user. They must have some gene I'm missing.

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best faith, and NOT going to "drama boards" as you call them when advised, as "spending way to much time on user talk pages either trying to get people sanctioned or just stirring up drama". I struck my comment as advised by GorillaWarfare on advice to show my good faith as well. You're 100% right that I really did not want to hear from you here.

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possible; for example, instead of saying "This wall of text makes my eyes bleed. It's completely unreadable." you could have gone in and adjusted the text to make it more readable and then hit "preview" (but not saved—editors often don't appreciate others modifying their comments, even when it's just formatting) so you could read it more clearly.

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been a number of instances where your abruptness and lack of civility have been problematic, and work from there. Accept what hasn't worked, apologise if necessary for any jibes sent in haste. Then make your case that you did not intend to engage in a personal attack, and you will be cautious to avoid a similar situation in the future.

343:. It may be an onerous procedure to get one, but I understand the public good in all drivers being required to get a license. In the interests of full disclosure, I think IP editing should be allowed but I think it should be discouraged. But maybe I have not weighed all considerations. So, I ask you for your input. 4171:. Can you point me to the policy where I need to propose edits on the talk page first? I have edited wikipedia for a long time and do not think this is typically the case. What section are you saying I blanked? I removed a sentence that seemed to be original research. I don't think this is blanking a section? - 4741:

The relevant piece of policy was insufficiently clear on this point, so I think it's understandable that MJL and IHA didn't realize this was a no-no. Now that both MJL and IHA are aware of the specifics around outing and linking to off-wiki accounts, and the policy has been clarified to avoid further

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We take a pretty conservative stance on Knowledge when it comes to allowing people to edit completely anonymously, which includes discouraging people from surmising that Knowledge user A operates account B unless Knowledge user A has disclosed this explicitly on-wiki, even when the usernames A and B

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Mentoring here on WP is a controversial idea. There are a lot of experienced editors who, through their experience, don't think it works. I've had multiple failures, myself, involving significant time and energy. To other editors, that time and energy expenditure could have been more profitably spent

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It was literally on my user page and in at least one of the linked discussions you posted that I consider you as having seriously misrepresented. I find your claim not to know impossible to believe, especially after you misrepresented my going out of my way to ask for experienced advice to act in the

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Some more thoughts from me, reflecting upon your recent history. When you actively deal with controversial editors, you may make the mistake of seeing other editors in the same light. Remember that everyone makes mistakes, and that definitely includes editors who have interacted with you. How editors

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the rest of what I've seen and read tonight has made it clear there's no such thing as an unstacked deck here. Therefore there's no point, the tone policing and other bullying behavior will be all I'll see. Tone policing is how people like me are gaslit out of existence when we stand up for ourselves

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If you think the block was a mistake, then appeal it. The process isn't stacked against you, it will come down to the judgement of uninvolved admins. The problem is I don't think you're approaching this with the right attitude. A bit of humility and self-recognition is needed – acknowledge there have

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since I am on the receiving end of behavior that makes no sense and doesn't match the policy. I know perfectly well what being singled out as a target looks and feels like, I've had to endure it enough of my life just for not looking heteronormal. Again I'll ask how a current event and an observation

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Valereee is not picking on you. She and another user already warned you that your participation in conversations on that page was getting more heated than is appropriate, and snipes at other editors like the one you made towards Atsme only contribute towards a hostile and extremely unpleasant editing

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Number 2: Even if I tried to bring it in your talk page, the entire section of the talk shifted from my 9 statements to... me doing a WoT. Topic was completely derailed afterwards by people too concerned by me writing a WoT than by the actual points I made. Not sure if this teaches me more about WoTs

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And I'll repeat what I posted at BS's talk: There are any number of reasons someone would choose not to create an account. In this person's case, they seem to believe (and I completely agree with them) that it shouldn't be necessary to have an account in order to edit contructively without attracting

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that the subject doesn't exist: "This applies to pages that are blatant and obvious misinformation, blatant hoaxes (including files intended to misinform)..." Making hoaxes is considered a pernicious form of vandalism, so you should not tag an article as a hoax if you have, say, failed to find it on

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My edit to the policy page is not to change it - just to give it straight, but yes, with GW I agree it's a tad different from status quo. I removed the whole bit because of wanting to get the reference off. While I don't find readding that bit that you mentioned completely objectionable, I would try

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I have regularly experienced attacks against me solely because of my gender while on this project, and I am probably one of the few people in the world who can speak authoritatively about how nonbinary and genderqueer people get treated on Knowledge. When I say that PackMecEng is an ally, I do so in

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several people have tried to twist or misrepresent whatever I do into the worst possible light. For instance, I held off on leaving a response at the WP:ANI thread until I have the chance to fully discuss with MJL, and Levivich below twisted that into an aspersion about "because of your response, or

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IHA, your statement at Yurivict was helpful and contained no personal attacks, and I said it was good. Your comment at the ANI was a blatant accusation of hateful motives, and I said it was bad. That's not me flipping hot and cold. It's me responding to what I see, both the good and the not so good.

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has already admitted making a mistake. Either they will fix their mistake as a measure of good faith or they won't, I don't acknowledge the old "well you have to admit you were in the wrong too" victim-blaming that always hits targets who speak up for themselves from people playing at a false middle

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You say "my mistake" but I'm sitting here with proverbial ice on a black eye for 31 hours because you decided to twist my words and declare a "personal attack" where one wasn't made and where Tucker Carlson had been referenced by Atsme just a couple comments before. To hell with this Outer Worlds is

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Continuing to critically engage with users that do not want the best for this project is only going to hurt your reputation and the reputations of those who have your best interest in mind. Instead of the next thread being about "Problem User X", you let it become "Users X and Y fighting". You just

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which would probably be considered by most people to be stating the obvious; this is because of this hardline stance. There are some rare circumstances in which it's okay to do this (usually to do with paid editing investigations) but unfortunately it's an extremely grey area and enforcement varies

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Clearly you and I have very different experiences. If I stated how I feel several specific editors view me and why I feel specifically targeted, I'd probably get accused of a "personal attack" again, so I'll leave it at that. I will note clearly that the "it takes 2 to Tango" comment seen elsewhere

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The person in question had repeatedly been trying to get completely unreliable material inserted by that point, and made multiple comments completely failing to understand the difference between news coverage and opinion columns. Someone who had a functional ability to read sources and assess their

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Valereee decided to bully me and deliberately misrepresent what I said because they're friends with Atsme, and because they had the power to get away with it. I think that's the only way to see what they did, and I think it's typical of how I've been bullied so far on wikipedia. But what do I know,

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article was disgusting and ought to be deleted, and I've said as much repeatedly. I can't blame you if it's enough to make you not wish to contribute to the project; you'd hardly be the first person to be driven away by it. But your attacks on valereee are a separate matter, and are not acceptable.

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You seem to have a strong interest in disputes that don't involve you, and where, frankly, you don't really have any expertise to offer. However, you have made a lot of bad-faith accusations against me personally, and I don't appreciate it. Your behavior is disruptive and unproductive. If an editor

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with well explained edit summaries. You reverted multiple edits at one time with no explanation but asking me to take my edits to the talk page. This is disrespectful and uncollegial editing. If you disagree with me, fine, this is part of the process--but please say specifically why in your revert

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Nobody involved seems prepared to provide any diffs, which makes it difficult for me as admin to take stock of what's going on, short of a lot of detective work. Since Wikieditor19920 is the one who's complaining on your page, IHateAccounts, I'll warn them about making accusations without offering

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I apologize; it was completely unintentional, and I'm sorry I came across as bullying. I didn't intend it as putting blame on you at all. I meant it as a completely non-judgemental statement: Having an account makes an editor's life easier. I think that sucks, for the record. It's not fair, and it

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hostile attention. It shouldn't be necessary to have a bluelinked user name, ditto. It shouldn't be necessary to have tens of thousands of edits, or an admin flag, or a talk archive. But all of these things -- IMO, unfairly -- provide some level of 'seal of approval' in the minds of other editors.

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IHA, I'm sorry you've been singled out because you don't look heteronormal. That should never happen to anyone. What I read was a comparison between your colleague, Atsme, with whom you disagree, and a Trump-slurping pandering toadie. That is what I objected to. I want you to deal with colleagues

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After re-reading it twice more and the policy and everything else again I think you're just picking on me because I'm new and therefore an easy target, because I'm not the first person (Soibangla, Muboshgu, JzG, and Valjean all have observed similar) to observe Atsme's lack of bothering to source

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Please don't accuse people of not being truthful; that also is a violation of AGF. You can argue that a statement is not true, but saying someone is not being truthful implies intent. You don't have to be impressed with everyone you work with here, but in the interest of collaboration, keep it to

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Thank you for considering and for your sincere apology. As for the rest of above, I am tired of having to have accounts for everything. Every website it seems. I can't even check the local weather without being harassed to make an account, and then I have to have software on my laptop, tied to my

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manner. There are plenty of users with a lot of experience dealing with these kinds of users, and there are tools uniquely available to you to bring these folks forward to them. Not everyone is lucky enough to get a mentor, but not everyone is as unfortunate as you to be subject to a campaign of

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I get it, and I accept that many editors are more interested in our internal workings that they are in articles. I totally see room for those types of editors, and I'm not concerned with 'you talk too much' except in cases of walls of text. I literally was only explaining where the comments were

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IHA, it's not that I had a different experience with Pack than you. The time I was talking about was in a moment of my time here I was regularly reduced to tears and people were calling for me to get indefinitely blocked from the project. Meanwhile, PME was one of the few people I knew here that

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is no good. If you find yourself unable to stay respectful and calm, then simply don't write anything at all. This is why we ended up here, not because anyone is bullying you. I urge you to take on board the collegial criticism you received here, without seeing it as attack on yourself, which it

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Man, you are off to a bumpy start with this whole account thing. While I don't necessarily agree with the block, I do see where The Anome was coming from, and again I don't think it was intentional bullying (though I do see that you feel bullied as a result). Your name, while I don't believe you

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I wish you could, too. I won't get into 'grossly misrepresented links' if that means a content dispute; once I get involved with those at an article, I'm no longer an uninvolved administrator. But I'll certainly look at any aspersion cast upon you. Just ping me to it or leave a diff on my talk.

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I hadn't seen that Signpost article before and I find it repulsive. It doesn't represent or reflect Knowledge as a project. I don't assume its views – those of a tiny subsection of a large, diverse community – extend to the editors who have engaged with you in good faith here, and you shouldn't

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points out, slightly different. Now that we know you as IHA, when we see your username on an edit, we think, "Oh, that's the trusted user I've encountered before...I probably don't need to check their edit except out of idle curiosity, it's sure to be constructive." BS, I even have a hard time

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IHA apologies for posting here, you may not want to hear from me at the moment and if not feel free to remove my post. I just want to say it is not and never was my intention to attack you as a person. I also want to mention I had no idea you identified as non-binary. I had seen your preferred

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I gave you my take on what happened when you first pinged me to your talk page after the block was placed. Valereee is not bullying you, and I have no idea if she is friends with Atsme or not, but a block for incivility after two separate people warned you for incivility was justified. As I've

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In my opinion all of our time is best spent trying to improve the encyclopedia, be it by editing articles or discussing article content on talk pages, and so unless someone is being quite disruptive I generally try to just move on. I also find it's best to try to accommodate other editors when

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I would just like to respectfully suggest that perhaps discretion is now the better part of valour with regard to that section. I believe you have adequately made your points and further rancor (not that I lay the blame entirely upon you) simply muddies the waters. All the best whatever your

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I think registering an account should be encouraged, but I don't think IP editing should be discouraged. Yes, there are any number of advantages to registering an account and editing from it, not the least of which is that editing as an IP attracts scrutiny from editors who find IPs inherently

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The good news is that it's a softblock and you can just create an account with a different name yourself – that's probably easier than going through the rename process, since you don't have many edits with this account anyway, but if you do decide you want to do the rename we can help you with

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not all that long ago. In that situation, Levivich was the one who successfully explained to me what my mistake was. Another conservative editor, Mr Ernie, spoke out in support of me. They didn't have to, they could have easily supported my block given our different political leanings. As for

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Hello, here is some unsolicited advice. You've been engaged in some contentious areas. There's been quite a bit of heat. Apparently you've been abused offline, I'm sorry you have to go through that. But editing emotionally will not be good for you. Be civil, and present evidence when making

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Wikieditor did manage to sneak in a bit of good advice amidst all the other stuff above. It is often wise, especially as a new user but also for very experienced editors, to avoid conflicts with other users as much as possible and participate at the dispute resolution noticeboards only when

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among the admin and functionary group. Personally I think some edits that were made to WP:OUTING to try to reflect the existence of this gray area were irresponsible because they may suggest linking accounts is more acceptable than it really is, but that's perhaps veering off-topic a bit.

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It might also be worth it for me to point out that my plan as a mentor is to get you to the point of being an upstanding member of the community. I see a lot of potential value in your contributions, but it's sadly been overshadowed by other stuff that we can get into later (nothing too

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Competence is indeed required, but there are better ways of making your point without needing to post negative personal comments against another editor. For example, it would suffice to attack the quality of the available sources or the plausibility/provenance of the discussed claims.

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was he wasn't sure you seemed to be a willing mentee. When I read that comment, what I see is Lev saying if you weren't a willing participant, mentoring wouldn't work. Not that you were a lost cause from the start. You and I may differ on how to interpret such comments, but that's my

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where applicable, and maybe mention that it's happening, but avoid suggesting that any individual editor is responsible. If behavior is quite egregious and needs admin intervention, it should be addressed privately and links should not be made on-wiki. I hope this clarifies a bit.

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Yes, linking to an external account outside Knowledge that is not identified by the user is most of the time not allowed. I do think the policy should be a little clearer to i'll boldly edit it in a minute, but the "Posting links to other accounts on other websites" paragraph of

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are higher than that of most social media websites and forums. To participate in a controversial topic area, such as post-1932 American politics, an editor needs to show respect to other editors. While I was not aware of the comments that Valereee had pointed out, comments like

651:. The thing is user-names have greater recognizability than IP addresses. Editing here, one bumps into the same people frequently. A familiar name is someone known to you. Whereas a string of numbers is forgotten very quickly. User-pages also serve to identify individuals. Your 3627:, which says that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Edit warring on Knowledge is not acceptable in any amount, and violating the three-revert rule is very likely to result in loss of your editing privileges. Thank you. 2221:

since I'm being bullied currently, here, information: "News Channel 9" aka newschannel9.com is WTVC Chattanooga. Contents "© 2020 Sinclair Broadcast Group, Inc." per the bottom of their pages. Everything under the "by Sinclair Broadcast Group" byline appears to be one of the

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I'd like an explanation of how a current event and an observation of Atsme's reluctance or refusal to provide real sources to back up their claims constitutes a "personal attack". I don't think I made one and I think you're being overzealous because you and Atsme are friends

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and they've continued. I'm starting to feel like this is a "playing the refs" gambit, they're trying to get a rise out of me so that they can claim my good-faith observations are because they managed to cause a conflict? Maybe that's what they are doing with Bacondrum too?

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Number 1: I was following a strategy to de-escalate the conflict after you began addressing what you called my WoT with what was actually lack of civility and what appeared to me as a knee-jerk reaction. So I posted privately on your page not to take an issue in the talk

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style attack. Finally I, like pretty much everyone else, have noticed that on the content side you do pretty well. You are getting good with RS and researching and I do honestly think you could be a great asset to the pedia. I would seriously consider MJL's offer of

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environment. It can be frustrating working with editors with whom you disagree, but we all must try to be as civil as we can be towards one another. It's one thing to ask another user to please provide sources to support their points, but jabs about another editor's

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So you're back to twisting my words so you can justify bullying me for your friend. Thanks for making it 100% clear that you won't treat me fairly and exactly where you stand. I'm more than used to seeing bullies play with pretexts to justify how they mistreat me.

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suspicious. :) The vast majority of edits by IP editors are well-intentioned -- someone is reading an article, sees a typo, and fixes it. That doesn't mean the vast majority of vandalism isn't by IP editors, but by and large editing by IPs is a major net positive.

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So I hope it is enough. We spent more e-mails debating form than content. This is the worst crime in Knowledge, but I see it happening all day (to the point I had quit contributing until yesterday). I am aware there are forums on-line and image boards targeting

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For a brand new account, you seem very involved at multiple conduct-related threads. I don't know why that is, but I suggest starting by trying to improve the encyclopedia rather than weighing in as uninvolved user to get a word in every dispute. Those are

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I agree, PragerU is all those things. It's a dogshit channel hosted and run by dogshit people. It should not be used as a factual source on it's content, but Shrier clearly endorses the position the video holds, which is why I used it in the first place.

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I prefer to offer possible sources or try to work on wording rather than just dumping edits that have a chance someone will decide to revert them out of hand. I have never understood the "you talk too much" aspersion that some people seem to love.

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ground. It made no sense when I was bullied and told I had to "admit" that I was "making myself a target" by supposedly not trying hard enough to appear more heteronormal and less nonbinary than I am, and it doesn't make sense to me now either.

4270:, already referred to before. You made edits. You were reverted, with an entirely valid edit summary despite your misrepresentations. At this point you are expected to discuss your proposed edits. You are now definitely crossing into trolling ( 4931:. Many articles that don't have a place on the encyclopedia are not covered by the speedy criteria -- they are only intended to make an easy route to deletion of the most obvious hopeless submissions (CVs of schoolkids and the like). Regards, 1332:

I think your discussion with JzG is relevant. For my part, Atsme was not being truthful, and I was being as polite as I could be in the circumstances. Between their previously demanding that I leave an article and make proxy edits for them at

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of Atsme's reluctance or refusal to provide real sources to back up their claims constitutes a "personal attack", since you did not answer that question and deflected instead. I'm not even going to bother asking for an unblock because the

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I have bent over backwards to show good faith, time and again, and not been given the same courtesy in return. And at least for tonight, now, I am going to take your earlier advice and sign off and not edit while feeling this frustrated.

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issues. I want to see you succeed, and I guarantee you that most people in the AN/I thread want to see that as well. If you want to have this conversation offwiki in order to speak more freely, then I would encourage that to happen.

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You have shown interest in (a) GamerGate, (b) any gender-related dispute or controversy, (c) people associated with (a) or (b), all broadly construed. Due to past disruption in this topic area, a more stringent set of rules called

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is the lost cause: a noble effort that is unlikely to succeed. "Unlikely to succeed" because of your response, or lack thereof, to the offer at ANI. What I wrote was a compliment of MJL; I'm sorry you took it as an insult of you.

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a charming and helpful user. Personally speaking, when I was constantly being attacked and harassed, PME was one of the users I leaned on the most to get me through it. For example, when some users were misgendering me on wiki,

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I'm fairly sure the reddit account was set up to specifically troll you and wasn't actually by PacMec, you should probably apologise, but I can understand why you made those comments considering the remarks were very hurtful.

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instead of other contributors. Focusing on content allows your arguments to be more impactful, and makes the discussion less adversarial, which allows article writing to be more pleasant and expeditious for everyone involved.

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And I got THANKED for my comment too. I'll wear the bruise on my eye with pride the way John Lewis wore his scar from the Edmund Pettus Bridge. It wasn't a personal attack, I do not recognize that as a legitimate claim.

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My personal hope is that now the block has expired, you will put this behind you and return to editing with just a bit more care about commenting on content and not contributors. Hope to see you around the articlespace.

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Which brings me to what PackMecEng wrote here. When I read it, I believed it. I do think it is possible that mistakes were made. I say that as someone on the opposite aisle from PackMecEng. I'm going to quote Joe Biden

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as a Qowat Milat "lost cause", but even if I were, in what way could comparing you to Picard and Burnham, two of the show's heroes, be a very hurtful aspersion? It would be a compliment, because "lost cause" means a

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Man, no offense, but I was not trolling you. Seriously. Read my points. Hope they are easy enough for you. I will avoid bold text when writing what follows, as you requested. This message is shorter by the one by

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pronouns on your user pages but did not put two and two together. For the record I want to unequivocally state that was not me on reddit and that attacks like that are completely unacceptable. It appears to be a

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Well nevermind, that's sorted then. Maybe you and I (and anyone else on this page, if they so wish) can pick an article to collaborate on, so we get off on a better foot. If that interests you, any suggestions?

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PragerU is a particularly ugly disinformation/propaganda mill. Not worthy as a source, plus it's not like it's an interview. It does not give her author credit for the script, but only has her as "presenter".

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They left this threat on my talk page in apparent retaliation, or to try to scare me away from commenting, for my observing that the links they provided on that page did not match the claims they were making.

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and limit how far you are pointing, because pointing to it is the same as giving the account name. Of course I didn't research this specific part of your comment, but just give that as a general warning. --

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It should come to no surprise to you that I have received a lot of negative messages for my adoption of you and have been accused of shielding you from accountability. Let's prove those people wrong, okay?

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The link thing was my bad. I did not notice any potential personally identifiable information (nor the ability to connect it to an onwiki editor) within the tweet thread, and I literally told IHA to use

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What are you saying was "personal information"? If I have it correct you are objecting to the link showing an external twitter account that does not list a name, address, or other information. Querying

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On review, I agree with the other editors here that your username is not a problem. I've unblocked you, and would like to offer you my apologies for the unecessary and over-zealous block. Best regards,

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for all our other pillars. I've probably spent as much time dealing with it as on all my other admin activities put together. I have warned many, many people, including other admins, for incivility.

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While I appreciate the sentiment and explanation, ultimately it's up to the user posting it to be responsible for the edit - just as it would if it was the copyright policy. It's highlighted in the

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I don't disagree that there are advantages to registering accounts, but if someone is aware of them and still doesn't want to register account I see no reason to discourage them from that decision.

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Making personal attacks against the admin who blocked you for personal attacks is an excellent way to wind up with the block extended. If you think the block was unjustified or unfair, appeal it.

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sorry to ask you yet another thing but what's the proper reporting way to have something like this completely stricken? It's DEFINITELY a violation of the Biographies of Living Persons policy.

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is coming from. I haven't been following that talk page closely so can't comment on the specific cause of the block, but have noticed a pattern of sometimes confrontational edits, such as the

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absolutely necessary. I still try to follow that philosophy (at least regarding participation as a reporter at those noticeboards, I do sometimes weigh in or handle issues there as an admin).

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Twinkle isn't a browser extension, it's a Gadget you can enable in your Knowledge preferences. It's extremely useful for all sorts of things; I'd recommend checking it out at some point.

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since I'm just an "it", why should I? I already know from past experiences I won't be treated fairly. I got bullied into making a user name and then immediately hit anyways when I did.

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page reads like one giant block of victim blaming, and I am not going to say I did something wrong when I've read the policy multiple times and I don't think I made a personal attack.

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said about me was completely true. Many editors seriously considered me a lost cause incapable of adding any real value to the project. My initial experience certainly wasn't as...

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below. You should be able to do this even though you are blocked. If not, you may wish to contact the blocking administrator by clicking on "Email this user" from their talk page.

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Look, I don't completely agree, but I see your point. Plus, now I think about it, maybe inadvertently directing people to a conservative propaganda hell hole isn't a great idea.

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are not prepared to deal with these kinds of users on your own and should stop trying to. This is especially true when you know you have been uniquely targeted for who you are.

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adds only heat to the fire. Knowledge is not a battleground and I'd say from my experience you got off here on the wrong foot so now would be a good time to relax and regroup.--

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policy. Can this portion of the information be restored, or is there wording either of you can suggest that would satisfy both the questions asked and the policies involved?

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Probably the first edit to a problem editor (and most do not do this) should be to lay on the relevant Welcome. There is a whole section for tailored welcomes in TWINKLE. --

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Let me be absolutely clear and say you have seriously done some things wrong. You spend way more time than you need to on discussion pages, and you seem to have some major

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Yeah, there are any number of WP gadgets that make editing easier in multiple ways. Twinkle is great, and check out Navigation Popups. Hover over anything, get info. :)

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to post it. This should not be held against them since I gave them some really terrible mentoring regarding this. I really can't say this clearly enough: I straight up

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only applies to biographies, companies, organisations, web content, organised events and the like. Please check the details before requesting deletion under it again.

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Thank you for the clarification. I have left a supplementary comment on the talk page explaining my concerns as above, please let me know if anything needs changing.

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I want to see you succeed here. I think you have enormous potential for that. Your biggest obstacle seems to be a tendency to making retaliatory personal attacks

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That's not the way to handle a personal attack. The way to handle it is to say, "I consider '(words of personal attack)' to be a personal attack. Please redact."

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Can you point me to the policy where I need to propose edits on the talk page first? Is this the policy you believe I am violating or something else? Thanks.

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shouldn't be true, but IMO it's just reality. There's bigotry in the world, and we here on Knowledge aren't immune. —valereee (talk) 9:17 am, Today (UTC−4)

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valereee, I haven't seen anything that would indicate that they are anything but a well-meaning editor and administrator. If you care to read, valereee

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I wish you had the same low level of tolerance for grossly misrepresented links, and the aspersions cast upon me. I wish I could take your statement

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either. Valid concerns about your uncivil comments were raised politely by editors far more experienced than either me or you, and you ignored them.

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and after seeing garbage like this and the people who wrote it apparently having had no sanction I'm not fucking surprised that's the wikipedia way.

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My tolerance for incivility/abf/personal attacks is probably on the lower end of the scale for WP editors. I consider our civility policy to be the

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IHA to post that link. They posted it as a direct result of my carelessness here. Had I connected a few more dots, this would not have happened. –

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Heh, looks like Amanda and I edit conflicted with largely the same concerns about how the outing policy wording has been recently(ish) changed.

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Ok I'll bite, the categories are ludicrously vague and unhelpful. What's the category for "the subject of the article probably doesn't exist"?

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I responded to MJL here, and plan to discuss with them. I don't find your misrepresentation of that as a "lack of response" to be appropriate.

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This has gone on long enough. You have been warned often enough. The next time I see a personal attack from you, I will block you for a week.

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I hesitate for a couple of reasons to say who I think the sockmaster is publicly on Knowledge. Is there an alternate option? Discord maybe?

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Ironically, I think MJL was also previously considered a lost cause by certain editors. That didn’t bear fruit, by the way. You could prove

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https://www.mediaite.com/opinion/conservatives-hoping-for-new-media-hero-in-newsmax-may-find-an-obstacle-in-ceos-left-leaning-tendencies/

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https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Edit_warring#User:Bacondrum_reported_by_User:Wikieditor19920_(Result:_)

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https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/politics/elections/fl-ne-trump-pushes-newsmax-over-fox-20201113-mv52b2b5efgidcjb5pjymftnfa-story.html

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Number 4: Anyway, I edited everything and now you see 9 lines... 9 paragraphs of one or two sentences each that state my policy points.

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Number 3: Honestly, that entire talk page is full of WoTs so mine pales when compared to the previous ones full of conspiracy theories.

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misunderstandings by others, I think all is settled. I think it's clear this was a misunderstanding, not a malicious outing attempt.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Incivility_and_battleground_behavior_from_Wikieditor19920

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http://politics.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2010/10/7/sarah-palin-takes-a-big-step-toward-2012-run-for-president.html

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On the shows, there have been only two "lost causes" to which we've seen Qowat Milat members bind themselves: the "lost cause" of

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are not acceptable, and are certainly closer to "bullying" than a block after fair warning that your behavior was not acceptable.

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can you look at this? This seems to be very uncivil and threatening behavior in retaliation because I commented on a thread here:

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Thank you for letting me know, I've noticed a few probable ones in the past few weeks and forwarded the information to my mentor

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https://www.newsweek.com/right-wing-news-site-warns-readers-not-get-hypothetical-coronavirus-vaccine-because-vaccines-are-1491579

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cause, but one that is unlikely to succeed, and Qowat Milat only bind themselves to the most noble of lost causes. In any event,

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https://www.newsweek.com/newsmax-ceo-thinks-trump-should-concede-when-states-certify-elections-would-support-overturning-1549922

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out and I'm going to go play that. Knowledge has shown me what it is and I should have believed it the first time to paraphrase

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Hey, so I wanted to tell you about this publically on wiki because I know this has been a major source of frustration for you.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/06/15/christopher-ruddy-the-trump-whisperer-im-honest-with-him-he-says/

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volunteering elsewhere. There's a reason MJL doesn't undertake this lightly: if you aren't all in, it's a waste of their time.

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have interacted with you might not necessarily present an entire picture of themselves.I would like to share a situation where

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Looks like the diff above has already been handled. Regarding how to have such things removed in the future, see the advice at

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or otherwise bother me on my talk page again. Propose your ideas for wording or your other concerns on the article talk page.

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https://www.mediamatters.org/coronavirus-covid-19/newsmax-telling-its-older-leaning-audience-avoid-future-coronavirus-vaccine

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https://web.archive.org/web/20160403075026/http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/dennis-michael-lynch-joins/2016/01/19/id/710066/

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https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk%3AWikieditor19920&type=revision&diff=985396420&oldid=985029505

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https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/05/is-qatar-trying-to-invest-in-conservative-media-to-curry-favor-with-trump.html

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https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk%3AIHateAccounts&type=revision&diff=985395734&oldid=985392856

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after you warned them, Wikieditor19920 filed what appears to be a retaliatory or vexatious claim against Bacondrum here:

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I know you are in a terrible mood as of late, but I seriously hope you feel better. Trust me, things will improve soon!

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2020/08/12/newsmax-has-emerged-landing-spot-cable-news-personalities-need-new-home/

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propaganda pieces they are well known for. Do what you want with it, I may or may not bother signing in again any more.

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Since you were the admin who warned Wikieditor19920, I guess I should reply to you here too so you are aware of this.

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where you are continuing the same pattern and bickering about matters unrelated to that noticeboard. This is classic

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https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk%3AHunter_Biden&type=revision&diff=985915681&oldid=985915154

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IHA, I do get that -- it infuriates me, too, to have to register an account to frickin' buy a t-shirt. This is, as

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https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk%3AAtsme&type=revision&diff=986095543&oldid=986093783

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https://stories.clintonfoundation.org/public-private-partnerships-advance-health-care-in-mozambique-88ee06bee3ad

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on this reply since this isn't the first time someone decided to pick on me and I'm not a fan of being bullied.

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violating) claims. I think I deserve an explanation as to how you think you're not doing so. I'm also including

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Your mileage may vary, and certainly not everyone agrees with my approach, but that's my 2¢ on conduct issues.

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http://www.mediaite.com/tv/newsmax-host-taken-off-the-air-after-calling-out-his-network-during-live-broadcast/

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https://deadline.com/2019/07/trump-aligned-newsmax-tv-parts-ways-with-ceo-michael-clemente-report-1202656834/

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I am even less familiar with that. I will work on signing up for Discord and let you know sometime tomorrow.

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meant it this way, could feasibly be interpreted to mean that you hate people who edit from named accounts.

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https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-allies-explored-buyout-of-newsmax-tv-as-fox-news-alternative-11605464737

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standing up to it. I seriously can't understate the level of appreciation I have for her because of that. –

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/13/donald-trump-attacks-fox-news-they-forgot-the-golden-goose

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-03-06/newsmaxs-chris-ruddy-preps-tv-network-to-rival-fox-news

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Please note that you may only request a name that is not already in use. Therefore, please check the list

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I am aware of the above. However a bias is not a reason for exclusion and they are not dealt with on the

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https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Knowledge:Wikipedia_Signpost/2019-02-28/Humour&oldid=884194176

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https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Knowledge:Wikipedia_Signpost/2019-02-28/Humour&oldid=884194176

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Yes that's one of them, MJL was requesting someone to look into it but I believe they were unavailable.

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https://archive.today/20110217123246/http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/780adad6-fe15-11de-9340-00144feab49a.html

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I'm sorry, I responded to you at GW's talk before I saw you'd been blocked. Copying this from her talk:

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Do not add personal information about other contributors to Knowledge without their explicit permission

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https://www.thewrap.com/newsmax-host-dennis-michael-lynch-is-pulled-off-the-air-for-defending-fox-news/

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I'm really not in the mood right now and I'm not interested in installing more add-ons to my chrome.

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in the past and finding it informative. I don't personally share the perspective, but I respect it.

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hate accounts, and since accounts are not a protected class I don't see why that would be an issue.

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Normally we'd expect you to use email, it's up to you if you want to email me (from my talk page).

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https://www.fastcompany.com/90573893/newsmax-could-end-up-being-the-fox-news-of-the-post-trump-era

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My preference is Discord, but I am willing to meet you where you are at (figuratively speaking). –

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/right-wing-media-outlets-duped-by-a-middle-east-propaganda-campaign

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I don't have Discord. I might be able to make *sigh* yet another account to do it. But of course

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I find your comment here to be "disrespectful", "uncollegial", and bordering on troll behavior.

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I wanted to state this definitively for the record in case this ever comes again in bad faith

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involves, at least in part, individuals who if they edited on wikipedia directly run afoul of

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Thank you for finally fixing the format so that I can read what you wrote. I will look at it.

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/10/donald-trump-us-election-misinformation-media

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https://www.adweek.com/tv-video/newsmax-conservative-news-network-10-things-you-need-to-know/

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As a fan of Star Trek who is heartily enjoying both Picard and Discovery, I am well aware of

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I told them they had left a wall of text, and they left something that looked like trolling.

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This is a standard message to notify contributors about an administrative ruling in effect.

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https://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2015/02/newsmax-pledged-1m-to-clinton-foundation-202803

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https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/newsmax-ceo-christopher-ruddy-fox-news-trump-tv-1234832336/

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https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/why-newsmax-supports-trumps-false-voter-fraud-claims

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for her to make claims about other incidents, as she does in the video, as a "presenter."

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https://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2014/05/newsmax-to-launch-channel-with-directv-189395

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I apologize for using hyperbolic language to describe Carlson. What you actually said was

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I noted the problem with Carlson because Atsme had referenced Carlson in that very thread

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they came back. I have just noted this in the complaint they left against Bacondrum here (

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accusations. You'll learn this, some way or another. If you're angry, please don't edit.

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if you only want to turn it into a personal dispute. Your conduct on the whole violates

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Since she isn't given author credit on the piece, I think it should stay out. It's not

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https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:Joe_Biden&diff=prev&oldid=985377627

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Not going to speak for IHateAccounts, but I remember reading the (semi-humorous) essay

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https://ny.curbed.com/maps/10-buildings-possibly-endangered-by-a-midtown-east-rezoning

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as yours has been post-registration, but I definitely see some real comparisons there.

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You may consider your warning noted. Please do not expect me to respond to you again.

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https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/12/media/fox-news-newsmax-reliable-sources/index.html

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https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/08/qatar-newsmax-ruddy-al-jazeera-trump-573242

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2014/06/14/newsmax-tv-network/10491429/

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Google. Any article where there is any doubt at all should instead be nominated for

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In general, if you are concerned about off-wiki canvassing, best practice is to add

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maybe Atsme's sources just got "lost in the mail" like Tucker Carlson's credibility?

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Let's give each other a chance ... we must stop treating our opponents as our enemy

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are the same or similar. You might have noticed I have a link on my userpage to a

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http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/newsmax-nielsen-number-one/2010/01/17/id/346606

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Hopefully this is helpful, but I don't think I should add it to the discussion at

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disagreement. If you wouldn't say it in the workplace, you shouldn't say it here.

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https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/12/media/fox-news-newsmax-reliable-sources/index.html

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http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/dennis-michael-lynch-joins/2016/01/19/id/710066/

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https://www.newsday.com/entertainment/tv/greg-kelly-reporting-newsmax-1.42664454

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Also you said you'd been having a bad day, and that made me want to try to help.

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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the

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I believe I was completely clear, after you blanked out a large block of text.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2020/11/10/newsmax-fox-news-trump-tweets/

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I think you're just picking on me because I'm new and therefore an easy target

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we can all get back to article editing and this will become a distant memory.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/22/business/media/newsmax-trump-fox-news.html

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https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Edit_warring

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must make an effort to avoid interactions with them if you can't do so in a

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is still disruptive. We already have an extensive discussion ongoing on the

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If editors continue to revert to their preferred version they are likely to

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Your account has been blocked from editing Knowledge because your username,

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I finally do what you say and I get bullied more for it. Big surprise. And

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https://www.multichannel.com/news/newsmax-grabs-fox-distribution-executive

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https://www.broadcastingcable.com/news/sean-spicer-joins-newsmax-tv-lineup

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where you've made a bunch of bad-faith accusations towards me, and now at

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https://www.vox.com/culture/21558899/newsmax-network-fox-news-trump-biden

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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/12/technology/newsmax-fox-news-trump.html

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https://www.marketwatch.com/story/rush-limbaugh-matt-drudge-trail-newsmax

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IHA, I'm glad to see you open to MJL's help. I don't know if you've seen

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page at all so there is no definite outcome regarding their reliability.

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If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the

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That's all the contributions to that page, not just the current version.

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https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/08/media/newsmax-fox-news-ratings/index.html

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Hence my comment that there wasn't much overlap. I'll reconsider that.

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If there is a user you know is, or simply just understand to be, only

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punish an editor, but to prevent the disruption caused by edit warring

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https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/11/fox-news-vs-newsmax-heating-up

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http://people-press.org/report/517/political-values-and-core-attitudes

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https://hermancain.com/heartbroken-world-poorer-herman-cain-gone-lord/

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patterns that I am all too, painfully and personally, familiar with.

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Hello IHateAccounts -- I've declined the above deletion request, as

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/yes-mark-halperin-works-at-newsmax-now

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Hmmm, well if you don't have Discord then IRC is always an option. –

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sources getting "lost in the mail" like Tucker Carlson's credibility

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I'm a bit disappointed to see you blocked, but do understand where

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who has made the same observations about Atsme's behavior before.

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Apparently now I have to wait to be "autoconfirmed". Joyeaux. :(

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agree with me that IP editing should be allowed but discouraged?

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imply that there are any issues with your contributions to date.

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Alright, that works for me. You can add me as a friend there (

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https://www.palmbeachpost.com/article/20150428/news/812064499

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I've told the editor who broke 1RR they need to self-revert.

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would consistently send me positive words of encouragement.

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This would be another instance of not assuming good faith:

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report it to ANI. You cannot keep doing what you're doing.

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Then I pointed out that they left a literal wall of text (

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evidence or examples, because such accusations are simply

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I do not. I think IP editing should be allowed and should

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https://www.cjr.org/analysis/conservative-media-grown.php

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http://www.talkers.com/2013/06/05/wednesday-june-5-2013/

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Can we call it a day and start over? Shake hands maybe?

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Emailed on their behalf with who I imagine they mean. –

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this isn't the first time someone decided to pick on me

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beat me to it. Please be respectful and AGF. Regards,

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to carry over under a new name, then you may request a

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IHA hasn't quite mastered the project speak yet, but

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http://www.prnewswire.co.uk/cgi/news/release?id=68003

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I haven't put my email here for privacy reasons. :(

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On second thought, I have to say something. You say

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you believe you were blocked in error, then you may

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I am asking you to stop. 4922:applies to articles where you are 4114:Dishonest section summary redacted 3228:http://www.newsmaxtv.com/host-bios 3181:Thank you for the notification :) 2581:Take care, and have a good night. 1622:No, your comment feels to me like 804:has violated 1RR, there is really 258:once the rename is done and dusted 24: 3619:on that page. This isn't done to 3308:http://talkers.com/online/?p=4761 2507:in her candidature for adminship. 2500:I myself was indefinitely blocked 1978:), followed by your hyperlinking 1704:. 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