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I came back today with the purpose of letting him know that I had committed a heresy (jokingly, of course) by recently discovering and falling in love with Renaissance polyphony, which I figured would give him a chuckle. Only to find this. He was a great person and a huge value to Knowledge (XXG). We who knew him will all miss him. Rest in peace,
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I am greatly saddened. Jerry and I had an extensive email correspondence several years ago in which he very kindly helped me get "unstuck" and gain an appreciation of atonal and serial music, which I'd never before been able to grasp. It's since become one of my favorite things to explore and enjoy.
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Oh no! I hadn't seen this earlier, either. I'm only a curious visitor to the field of music, but our paths have crossed and words have been exchanged on a talk page or two, and I went away with valuable insights. I can imagine how the presence of such a luminary will be missed here and elsewhere. At
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This was a real shock to me. I initially encountered Jerome's published works on Stockhausen when I was studying for my master's degree. His explanations of Stockhausen's processes in Kontakte and Gesang der Junglinge were remarkable; a debt of scholarship I shall always owe him. I was delighted to
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Such sad news. I'd been hoping that Jerome (as I liked to think of him) had just been taking a summer break. Now, obviously, one on a cosmic, Stockhausen-like scale. He was clearly unique. And, somehow, he could also make me chuckle like none other. My thoughts go out to his family and friends.
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I have just seen Antandrus's note on the Classical Music Project talk page. A sad loss. The old phrase "a gentleman and a scholar" could have been coined with Jerome Kohl in mind. He was helpful, wise, witty and magnificently well informed. When one saw his signature on a discussion page it was a
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This one hit me really hard. He was just so -- humble about it. He never demanded recognition or trophies. He just labored to get things right, accurate, precise, clear -- no longing for praise or prize -- as low-profile a content contributor as I have known, or noticed, in a long time. I just so
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Yes, I knew Stockhausen personally. I met him for the first time on that 1983 whirlwind tour, which we had planned especially to include a pair of Stockhausen concerts in Vernier (Switzerland). I got to know him a little better the next year, first in Ann Arbor when he came to the University of
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I can only agree with what editors wrote above. What a sad loss. What an uncommonly wise and friendly colleague! I learned a lot from reading his comments and following some of his edits when they popped up on my watchlist. Sadly, no longer. Peace to Jerome Kohl's family and friends.
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I met Jerry more than 30 years ago in the Usenet groups rec.music.classical and related groups. His contributions there were not only enlightening, but often very humorous – his signature was "Légpárnás hajóm tele van angolnákkal." – an obscure reference which puzzled me for weeks.
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This is terrible news. Jerome was a widely respected and liked editor who brought deep knowledge and understanding to a broad range of musical areas. He was always a no nonsense but calming influence here, and will be much missed. Condolences to friends and family.
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Very sad news. I never realized, until I looked up some Wiki stats a few months ago, that I had left so many comments on his talk page and interacted with him so many times, but I do remember that the quality and nature of his edits were one of a kind. RIP.
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This is crushing. Dr Kohl was one of the most knowledgable editors in the classical music field, and, remarkably, always friendly and even-tempered. His advice was always on point, and his academic research improved every article he touched.
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Sad. He was an expert for Stockhausen and was involved in most of the music theory articles. You can identify his articles by the unusual parenthetical harvard references. I hope these deprecated references remain. He will be missed.
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the next year. We kept up a sporadic correspondence after that, until in 1996 he asked me to take on the job of translating his TEXTE ZUR MUSIK. I visited him in Kürten a number of times between then and his death in
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For friends and colleagues of Jerome Kohl, I'm afraid I've got some bad news. Jerome I have enjoyed working with you over the years, and I will miss you. You have done magnificent work here.
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I hoped for a different "Teaser" (mentioning Darmstädter Ferienkurse, or Boulez who conducted the premiere DYK?), but German "DYK" is even less open to serious information than ours. --
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learn he was a fellow editor here and a far more industrious and diligent one than I! I always marvelled at his productivity and unfailingly decent approach to editing. RIP Dr. Kohl.
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Just seeing this news now, very sad, many high quality contributions over the years, always fair minded, insightful, and considerate. Will miss you being around. Bye Jerome.
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I've only met one nice person on Knowledge (XXG). Be assured that his prolific activity on Knowledge (XXG) will continue to create waves of much needed positive influence.
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sure sign of essential reading – enjoyable as well as informative – and it is very sad indeed that we shall not see it again. Warmest sympathies to his family and friends.
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Oh no – this is terrible terrible news, so sad to hear it. Warmest and deepest condolences to friends and family. An incredibly wise and kind editor. What a loss.
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who died within a few weeks in 2011): " I hope that they have met again in the beyond and are making joyous music together." I hope ... --
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on, and for adding your admirable knowledge to this project in almost an understatement, about Stockhausen in particular. You mentioned
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His death will be felt here and in the real world of music scholarship. My deepest condolences go to his family. Vale, Jerry. --
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I worded these sentences, smiling, thinking of Jerome, - had no idea they would become tributes in memory. Let's make music! --
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Michigan for the world premiere of Lucifer's Dance, and then a few months later in Milan for the staged premiere of
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Gosh this is devastating. His work on WP was so valuable, especially as Gerda said, his contributions to
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This is a very sad loss, indeed. Thanks for everything you have done for this project. Rest In Peace.
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born in Poland who made an opera career in Italy, appeared in the world premieres of Penderecki's
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Missing Jerome Kohl. Since his passing, he has been memorialized with a 4-page memorial in
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I somehow missed that he had died until yesterday. We both worked together extensively on
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Sad news, indeed. Long ago, to my question if he knew Stockhausen personally, he wrote:
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So sad; I've just noticed. A great Wikipedian, who was really helpful at
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Thank you for sharing! We should write a real article about him, no? --
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three days ago, which found interest. Today I came to mark 10 years:
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husband dedicated several compositions to her, beginning with
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There's a list of (some of) his writings on Stockhausen at
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The same place had a line of saying almost nothing about
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9 January 2022, for a happy new year to all interested:
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Draft article added citations and submitted for review
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on 15 November 1969, including the world premiere of
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The nomination discussion and review may be seen at
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That's great for more than this specific article! --
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Archive 1
Archive 2
Archive 3
Archive 4
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