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Knowledge (XXG), that are not reflecting facts, but "feelings" of Society for Threatened Peoples employees - that they stated in a news article. Fact is: The Society for Threatened Peoples boss is under investigation, because the board of directors uncovered that he and his employees embezzled money.Therefore your argument that the Society says that they had two tax accountants is irrelevant, because - again - the board of directors uncovered money laundering and theft of assets paid by member ship fees for human rights work, the reason why this is now in court ! Stop to volunteer for their self promotion and face the facts, as much as you want to continue to be published on their website. You are well come to add the court ruling, but I guess if it is against the organization that you are associated with, you will not include those facts.
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to realize that for others, it was not that clear-cut. With the ongoing failure of Oslo and the fading lustre of the two-state solution, it seems the movement towards recognition of their indigenous rights within a federal state framework might be preferred over a two-state solution so as to finally unite the community now separated between Israel, the occupied territories, the refugee camps and the
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and care you have taken to explain what seems to confuse a lot of folks unfamiliar with the indigenous rights and peoples' forums and movements. Sorry that the experience turned out to be so exasperating, I can not think of any better way to encapsulate the main points than your responses there, and I am in admiration of your patient approach.
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I just see that you persistently add un factual text to the section at
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You are involved and associated with the accused, so STOP adding wrong information just to make them look "good", such as miss informing that "the former" board, . . . .they are, legally, by court, by the law, still the board. The very ones that uncovered the terrible un-ethical reality, that this
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You are involved and associated with the accused, so STOP adding wrong information just to make them look "good", such as miss informing that "the former" board, . . . .they are, legally, by court, by the law, still the board. The very ones that uncovered the terrible un-ethical reality, that this
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which created quite a buzz in Israel just recently. Palestinians' indigeneity amongst themselves is self-evident. The relative newness of efforts to be formally identified as such among mainstream
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Palestinian indigeneity. I have done my utmost to keep to the issues at hand, but seem to be enduring the regular onslaught of POV accusations from my pro-Zionist or pro-Israeli counterparts. Could you check in on the discussion there and let me know if I am being
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What you removed: Since 2012, german state prosecutor's are investigating Tilman Zülch, the
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Samombeia, You need to stop this harrassment. It is not GfBV that is accused but Tilman Zülch, and it is an accusation and not a conviction. This does not justify this repeated harrassment of an editor. Knowledge (XXG) is not sensationalist and does not give undue weight to unproven accusations.
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Dear sock puppet, could you please provide some evidence, that I am "involved and associated" with Tilman Zülch. FYI: In my entire life I have met him once briefly. I doubt he has ever heard or read my name. If you have any evidence to the contrary, I'd love to see it! Apart from that, the
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so called human rights organization seriously embezzled money, and instead of doing what you do, better sit put, and wait for the court case, instead of making your hand dirty as well. ((samombeia)
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