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that phraseology repeatedly in the article. Besides, if he were joking, don't you think he'd at least add in the relevant words such as "Just kidding!" "Joking aside..." or "In all seriousness, though..." How things are said is extremely key in regards to these sorts of things. And just because it was on a blog called Comics
Journal (which going by the title and content, was probably more likely referring to "comics" as in "comic books or "newspaper comics") doesn't mean the person was joking. I could easily say, for example, that I wanted to commit a bank robbery on the David Letterman show, and yet I'd be genuinely serious if I actually said that. Another thing, it seemed serious enough to get Breitbart.com to cover it. Don't believe me? Look here:
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the review is in, the editor(s) go through the article and make the recommended changes and take it from there. That's my understanding. PR and GA are fair amounts of work so you'd only want to nominate if you thought the article was as ready as it could be. I was really just commenting that the article looks in pretty good shape to me (I don't have much knowledge of G's work or the biographies). There seems to be a move afoot to bring the best lit articles we have up to GA standard, those that are not far off anyone - low hanging fruit, as it were. This might be one of those. All the best
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Clearly this doesn't belong here. The "Personal Life" section should actually be about Sendak's personal life. Unless there are compelling reasons to the contrary, I think the paragraph in question should be removed, and editors should limit the content of the section to significant information about
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I'm unsure what you meant by "change has errors"; you seem to be implying that my edit contained an error, but I don't know what this might be (I didn't revise the article's substantive informational content.) My edit was simply a minor improvement (in my opinion) to the article's language, which I
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of the father and son, and you go on to claim that the central plot focuses on the imagination of Bloom, and you compare the imaginative powers of the filmmaker with the character. The problem is that the source you cite, A. O. Scott, doesn't exactly say that, so this is really original research.
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under the 'arts' heading. They can get pretty backed up with requests so you could ask a long standing lit editor/old PR/GA hand to review it for you. Anyone can comment, but usually the review is to give a good sense of how ready the article is for GA nomination, ie what work is left to do. Once
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of the father-son relationship is the central, key theme according to the director, the author, and the majority of reviews, so I restored the information you changed. Second, you changed "creates extravagant myths about his past to hide himself, using storytelling as an avoidance mechanism" to
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Delmore effect. I didn't make it up. I don't mind the deletion. It's a minor issue at a minor article. I was merely adding information that seemed pertinent. Should you run across another of my
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Hi Jp. Thank you for your very kind words. It's my pleasure. I think the article is looking better now. But I'm sure there is plenty more that could be done. Regards.
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