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Unfortunately, you chose to accuse me of vandalism, which is dishonest and uncivil. You can disagree with my view of content, but you cannot use the pretense of vandalism to justify edit-warring. Given your name, it is evident that you are a fan of ICP, which quite likely explains why you are biased
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If you work with me and others, I am sure we can come to a reasonable compromise. However, if you continue to try to intimidate me into allowing you to damage the article, I will not hesitate to report you. Also, if you escalate this to a full edit war, I will personally ensure that you are blocked
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Actually, I would agree that a band can be composed entirely of
Christians, all of whom evangelize and/or are Evangelicals, without being a Christian band. After all, the private life of musicians is just that; private. However, when they use their music to send religious messages, that changes
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But if you agree that the band is not necessarily
Christian just because the members are or may be Christian, why do you have trouble closing the loop to declare that the band members are not necessarily "evangelical Christians"? The only evangelizing that's going on is in the music and in the
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I'm sure you're sick of this issue, but the sentences about Ronson asking questions that assume
Christianity and ICP's failure to deny Ronson's implications are two halves of a single point. Without the "didn't deny" part, I don't see any point in mentioning the questions.
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Christian band and to be evangelizing, I've conceded that "evangelical Christians" is misleading due to the existence of Evangelical Christians. I don't know that we're all that far apart on
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in-makeup band interviews. If the band evangelizes something other than
Christianity, as Violent J states and you seem to agree, then it's misleading to call the individual members "evangelical Christians". They may be Christians who evangelize
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Just wondering, why do you like ICP? In my opinion they just talk sort of fast, and it hurts my ears. Not even the lyrics mean shit. I'm not trying to troll on you or make fun of you. I just want to know - why?!
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My objection is more along the lines of "even if the conversation was exactly as transcribed, that's pretty weak evidence." Especially in light of the contradiction from ICP that came soon after.
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on this matter and have a mistaken understanding of what constitutes notability and neutrality. I recommend that you remain keenly aware of your inherent bias and strive to counter it.
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