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Wikibaji and B-Factor sockfirms. It might have saved the source codes of articles I created and then re-created them from different accounts to have me block as a sockmaster. Same pages were also created in Simple English Knowledge (XXG) by this sockfirm. I am listing few points here to prove that I am being framed here: Kart2409 account was opened and started mimicking me when I already tagged several spam articles. If I have been doing UPE then I would have accepted a lot of spam submissions or have marked spam articles as reviewed. If I am engaged in UPE then my account would have come in CU log of those accounts. If I have any COI, I would have re-created those articles or at least try to rescue those articles when they were recreated. I am still open to any questions and one can thoroughly check my contributions to date. Nothing is more painful here than to be blocked for something you never did! My earnest request to the reviewing admin is to patiently check every aspect. I am being framed here and the UPE accusation is based only on guesses with no solid evidence.
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