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for starters and therefore have a deep knowledge of my own ethnicity, culture, background, customs and political issues. Second, I spent way too much time finding resources to cite things that I already know to be true. To put this more clearly, the wikipedia articles in question are stating that "the Earth is flat" and I am giving citation after citation of evidence to show that "the Earth is round". You call that battleground editing? I call it investigative research. I have done a lot of unnecessary research to prove what I already know to be true and a person should never have to prove their own ethnicity is actually an ethnicity. This is borderline racism. I'm not returning to this site and will be contacting the media about this.
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That is your point of view and it, as usual, is incorrect. The media is not a legal entity. Your trolling of my page is harassment and can't be interpreted in any other way. Each of your comments is an attempt to have me silenced, banned, etc. You clearly have a bias against me, probably for exposing
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