1038:, I was just saying what communist revisionist historians tends to. I am extremely sorry if any of my comment hurt anybody's felling. I apologize for that. My point is burden of proof. I have tried to prove his surrounding, being born in very religious family and his organization's members responsible for creating largest culturo(/relegio) nationalist organization RSS. Not saying I am using them as sources of his religion. I claimed his surrounding. If person change a religion he would tell this to others. His mother come to meet him in prison every day. Yet no source of his change of religion towards atheism by his mother. No jailmates have revealed it. Actually all this is based on a letter "Why I am Atheist" came out of British Prison claimed to have been written by Bhagat Singh. It is well known that British tried many propaganda tricks like showing other comrades of him fake news papers that Bhagat Singh have turned approver. I have checked all his references very carefully. Don't get me wrong. I am not speaking without checking his sources. Instead of glaring, I checked his sources. None are book by well known writers and none of the book is recognized as authentic book. We are living in 2013. Writing and getting a book published isn't great thing. If the book is available to the
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words the idea a "place" system of writing numerals) very probably originated in India. So while it may be more accurate to refer to "Hindu-Arabic" or even "Hindu" numerals, especially if we are talking about the basic idea of "place" numerals, it isn't
English. You speak another language, that's fine, but not here - this is the English Language Knowledge, and especially in running prose as opposed to when we're being hyper-accurate and pedantic "Arabic numerals" is what we call them, to distinguish them from "Roman numerals" (which aren't even originally "Roman" even, and in any case we use them differently from how the Ancient Romans did!!).
1042:, then see inline references in the book. When a book is written by non well known authentic historians and still it is good it gives reliable sources as references. If book have it, then give it. For such controversial debate, nothing less then article published in a good peer reviewed magazine, or some verified personal friend/near and dear/family member account. Bhagat Singh's life come every second day in Indian Newspapers. Some times it says 'it is claimed he turned atheist in his later life', this is the strongest claims they make. I am following my duty and not letting it become propaganda show for any ideology.
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Sukhdev or Rajguru's sources don't say anything on it? I am yet to see anything of which he said "Workers of the world unite". You are making a historical revision... trying to revive it what was attempted by colonial establishment. And have sadly no reliable source. Bring reliable source and change the article. But I wouldn't be quiet if you change it without reliable source.
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Indians may have invented the idea of "place" numerals, which are so much more convenient than "non-place" or "tally" systems like Roman numerals, or
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