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Some editors find it very frustrating to see the same old Yahoo or, even worse, Youtube links added to popular articles again and again and again (forever) mostly by newbies who try to argue the case each time. The spam bot gets some of this without any argument, and sometimes it pays to relax, leave
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The boncherry map looks like it's based on the 1908 1:50.000 map, while the 1990 1:50,000 map, (the one I used) has different heights, and a different layout of the peaks. Confusingly, the 1990 1:100,000 map is the same as the 1908 1:50,000, not the other 1990 one. I don't know the reason for
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the fixed websites can be referenced). Left in the
External links section they are like a flag to red bull-ish Wikipedian. I think they can be re-added to the sources list if clearly qualified as the true official sites. Alternatively perhaps the groups meet the requirements of
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Following up on the question of 'do we add them all?', probably not, or at least not in as much detail. If the list is to be quoted as a sort of extended further reading list then the inclusion criteria should be clear on why certain books or articles are sufficiently
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It looks to be a sensible debate. Again, the easiest way to work within the guidance is to link to a site which also links to the yahoo forum. In this case official static websites do exist which point to the forum, so there would be little confusion for the
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